# "To Be Memed" (w/ Mindy Kaling)

An episode of [Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1092361338), 17 Jun 2026, 1 h 32 min.

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Mindy Kaling elevates all our lives and sits down with Matt + Bowen— on Culture Awards release day, no less!— to discuss the place of awards shows in culture as collisions of couture and competition. Also, being that person who knew the writing staffs of your favorite series, “webisodes” culture, and portraying both Kelly Kapoor and Ben Affleck onscreen. All this, burrata, spacebar smudging, and door knocking as an expression of one’s kooky self. Not Suitable For Work is Mindy’s latest and it’s streaming now on Hulu! So to Hulu with you! And also Bravo and Peacock to watch those Culture Awards… and get a taste of the glamorous life. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Look maner oh, I see you my own look over
[0:05] Speaker 1: there is that culture, Yes, Lost Culture, you Lost Culturesa's calling.
[0:13] Speaker 1: There's a couple items of business to get to before
[0:16] Speaker 1: we bring in our iconic guest. One Fraser is here
[0:21] Speaker 1: watching Hey d he's here. This is his first episode
[0:26] Speaker 1: of Lost Culture as a spectator because his favorite human
[0:29] Speaker 1: being is in the room.
[0:30] Speaker 2: Huge it happens to be the guest, actually.
[0:33] Speaker 1: Actually happens, And I'm s o l with my own man.
[0:38] Speaker 1: I don't stand a chance against our guests. But that's fine,
[0:41] Speaker 1: that's fine. Pick her too. Other orders of business. You
[0:45] Speaker 1: can watch or stream the Lost Culturica's Culture wheres tonight
[0:50] Speaker 1: tonight as of this episode airing, our other thing is airing.
[0:56] Speaker 1: And uh oh wow, I'm really gosh, I have been.
[1:00] Speaker 2: More Socisted's going on with your body? Why do you
[1:02] Speaker 2: touch my chest like this? I always get worried. The
[1:05] Speaker 2: veil is really thin right now? I really like, genuinely
[1:09] Speaker 2: starstruck and nervous around our guests recently. Today is really
[1:13] Speaker 2: no exception.
[1:14] Speaker 1: Can I say? We f Fraser and I have been
[1:17] Speaker 1: preparing for the episode, and I said so. He says,
[1:20] Speaker 1: the MINDI Project is my favorite show. I play it
[1:24] Speaker 1: on repeat all the time. He says he's watched the
[1:26] Speaker 1: entire series at least five or six times. It's at
[1:29] Speaker 1: least it's it's, it's it is.
[1:30] Speaker 2: It has the patina of like a Cheers now where
[1:32] Speaker 2: it's like, oh, that's your comfort.
[1:34] Speaker 1: Wise, so we watched the episode where Casey Wilson focks
[1:36] Speaker 1: like Barenholts. Really good stuffs happening. I just love when
[1:40] Speaker 1: good people get together and pretend to fuck on television.
[1:44] Speaker 1: And that's a real culture number eight. I just love
[1:47] Speaker 1: when good people get together and pretend to fuck on television.
[1:51] Speaker 1: And so that was a wonderful and joyous time sort
[1:55] Speaker 1: of reconnecting with that show. And guess what, there's a
[1:57] Speaker 1: brand new one out not suitable for work. For work,
[2:00] Speaker 1: you can stream most of it right now, and the
[2:03] Speaker 1: last two episodes are going to come out next week
[2:05] Speaker 1: because today is June seventeenth, the day of the Cultural Awards.
[2:08] Speaker 1: Lots to stream out.
[2:09] Speaker 2: Lots for your stream out there running point.
[2:13] Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, these are all stuff that our
[2:16] Speaker 1: guest has created. It's a goddamn bona fide mogul to
[2:20] Speaker 1: say nothing of never have I ever sex lives of
[2:22] Speaker 1: college girls. Our guest is famously Kelly Kappor from the office,
[2:27] Speaker 1: and just let's have a Let's just have a moment
[2:30] Speaker 1: for that.
[2:31] Speaker 2: Let's have a moment for that, and let's have a
[2:32] Speaker 2: moment to welcome. Hey.
[2:37] Speaker 3: That was the best two and a half minutes of
[2:39] Speaker 3: my movie.
[2:40] Speaker 1: And it was two and a half minutes. I think
[2:42] Speaker 1: we didn't even really get out of that.
[2:44] Speaker 3: It was I'm so touched why and mostly because freezers here.
[2:50] Speaker 1: Okay, I was pretty sure you would know who he was.
[2:53] Speaker 3: Yes, well, and we were talking about him because my
[2:56] Speaker 3: whole writer's aroom, both of my writer's rooms were so
[2:58] Speaker 3: excited and jealous that I was coming here today, and
[3:01] Speaker 3: we were we were looking Okay, can I talk about
[3:06] Speaker 3: the photos of you guys.
[3:08] Speaker 1: That's not a spoiler. People know that we were on
[3:10] Speaker 1: a carpet together, the Marshall's Blue Carpet, Is it okay.
[3:13] Speaker 3: Because it doesn't come out till later.
[3:14] Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, the photo.
[3:18] Speaker 3: So we were talking about the photos of you guys
[3:21] Speaker 3: on the red carpet and what a handsome couple you are.
[3:24] Speaker 3: And then some of the writer's younger gen Z females,
[3:26] Speaker 3: as I'm sure are obsessed with him and his physique especially,
[3:32] Speaker 3: and then love talking about the show. And then so
[3:34] Speaker 3: I'm I'm really honored that you love because the Minti
[3:37] Speaker 3: Project is like kind of a deep cut.
[3:39] Speaker 1: You think, I think I know, but I.
[3:42] Speaker 3: Think that it's sort of you know, it was never
[3:44] Speaker 3: like a big hit when it came out or anything,
[3:45] Speaker 3: but the people who liked it liked it and they
[3:48] Speaker 3: sometimes turn up, so thank you.
[3:49] Speaker 1: Thank you kind of what you want though, you of course,
[3:52] Speaker 1: everyone wants everything to be huge, but ultimately what you
[3:55] Speaker 1: want is for people that get it to really get
[3:57] Speaker 1: it and it's like truly important to them.
[4:00] Speaker 3: Well, I have a theory that you have to be
[4:02] Speaker 3: somebody's favorite. Yeah, It's like, even if that's a small group,
[4:07] Speaker 3: you have to be somebody's favorite. And there's I think
[4:09] Speaker 3: a lot of celebrities out there who were like kind
[4:11] Speaker 3: of famous. But if you had to ask anyone like
[4:13] Speaker 3: is this person someone's actual favorite?
[4:15] Speaker 1: Is They're not?
[4:17] Speaker 3: But like I would say that, Like, the one thing
[4:19] Speaker 3: I'll say is I do think for some people that
[4:21] Speaker 3: show is somebody's favorite. And so and now I have really.
[4:25] Speaker 1: Writing the seven seas streaming the Mindy Project.
[4:28] Speaker 3: I'm telling you, killing all the people in all the
[4:29] Speaker 3: ports he goes.
[4:31] Speaker 1: Have you heard the show mindy project?
[4:35] Speaker 3: I can't an insane Indian woman and Baron Holts try
[4:39] Speaker 3: to have sex in New York City, try to try
[4:44] Speaker 3: to connect.
[4:46] Speaker 1: I also want to tell you and you hold a
[4:48] Speaker 1: special place in our heart because of the First Cultural
[4:51] Speaker 1: Cultural Awards. We obviously did our opening number, and then
[4:56] Speaker 1: every single time we watched it goes from us and
[4:58] Speaker 1: we threw over to you, and we were our first
[5:00] Speaker 1: presenter of the night, and we just we were watching
[5:03] Speaker 1: it together for the first time before it had come out,
[5:06] Speaker 1: and we were just like watching it to be the cut,
[5:08] Speaker 1: you know, and you came on the screen and it
[5:10] Speaker 1: just validated the whole thing and just made us feel
[5:14] Speaker 1: so happy that you would roll the dice on something
[5:18] Speaker 1: that was hard to explain, like it's an award show,
[5:20] Speaker 1: but it's a comedy special, etcetera. But you were so down.
[5:23] Speaker 3: Okay. I have a couple of reactions. One is thank
[5:25] Speaker 3: you for saying that, but I was so pissed being
[5:28] Speaker 3: backstage that I had to follow your dance number. No,
[5:32] Speaker 3: it was in your like that was such a beautiful
[5:35] Speaker 3: thing you said, and I'm sorry to answer it with anger.
[5:37] Speaker 3: But I was like, I have to come out after that.
[5:40] Speaker 3: I mean, it brought the house down, this dance number,
[5:43] Speaker 3: and then I had to come out and be like
[5:45] Speaker 3: wow in my dress, and so I'm very I'm very pleased.
[5:49] Speaker 3: I mean it was great. I don't know why I
[5:52] Speaker 3: wasn't invited this year. Oh I saw who did I
[5:57] Speaker 3: see on the carpet before you flip? Yes, that I mean,
[6:02] Speaker 3: and they looked amazing.
[6:03] Speaker 1: They really did.
[6:05] Speaker 3: There's is a really cool romance.
[6:07] Speaker 1: There's is a really cool and great love that's for
[6:10] Speaker 1: the culture number twelve, Rachelle and g flip. There is
[6:13] Speaker 1: a real and great love.
[6:14] Speaker 3: And uh Rachel Ziegler. Yeah, you know, so I saw
[6:19] Speaker 3: a lot of I was about to say contemporaries, but
[6:22] Speaker 3: I don't know that Rachel's sailor would be.
[6:24] Speaker 1: Like absolutely, I think she'd be honored to her.
[6:25] Speaker 3: You say, she's my great granddaughter in culture.
[6:29] Speaker 1: But I did see.
[6:30] Speaker 3: You know, when you get invited to be on the
[6:32] Speaker 3: first one and then you're looking for that invite, oh,
[6:35] Speaker 3: the second one.
[6:36] Speaker 1: Then why don't we just go ahead and call it
[6:37] Speaker 1: an eternal invite to the show.
[6:39] Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, We never turn you now away or
[6:42] Speaker 2: just just just it's in the mail. Okay, going forward,
[6:46] Speaker 2: here's my wish.
[6:48] Speaker 3: This is going to be a huge hit tonight, right
[6:49] Speaker 3: this the show is going to be amazing.
[6:51] Speaker 2: We hope knows.
[6:51] Speaker 3: I want next year for it to be such a
[6:53] Speaker 3: hit that next year everyone's like asking her publicas leading up,
[6:56] Speaker 3: like I got to get in there. I gotta get
[6:57] Speaker 3: in there. I really want to do it. And it's
[6:59] Speaker 3: very tight, like remember the Vanity Fair party. You're like,
[7:02] Speaker 3: am I going to get invited this year? Sometimes they
[7:04] Speaker 3: make it really small. I want it to be very tight,
[7:06] Speaker 3: and I want to be one of the very small,
[7:09] Speaker 3: exclusive few who gets to present.
[7:11] Speaker 1: Okay, got it noted? Which I'm not going to let
[7:14] Speaker 1: him speak anymore because before before was the damn mixed
[7:17] Speaker 1: message invitation. Would you like to win? Ward?
[7:22] Speaker 3: Okay, I want to win, but I don't want it
[7:24] Speaker 3: to be rigged. So could it be.
[7:27] Speaker 1: To break something to you?
[7:29] Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't want this, Okay, Yeah, of course, of
[7:37] Speaker 3: course I'd like to win, but in a way where
[7:39] Speaker 3: it was like it's stacked against me and it's like
[7:42] Speaker 3: I can't believe it, Like it's like parasite winning.
[7:44] Speaker 1: You know, I want to want like a moment exactly, and.
[7:50] Speaker 3: I wanted to be like, oh my god, I want
[7:53] Speaker 3: it to be I want my competitors to be like,
[7:55] Speaker 3: we're not a rens V and.
[8:00] Speaker 1: Close take them all out of cross WINDA yes.
[8:03] Speaker 3: And like an extremely old person where you don't know
[8:06] Speaker 3: if they're going to be able to come back again.
[8:07] Speaker 3: So it's got to be them, you know. And then
[8:09] Speaker 3: they're like Mini Kaaling and I can go up and
[8:12] Speaker 3: be like this wasn't this should not be.
[8:14] Speaker 1: Me, and this podcast will just erase for a memory,
[8:17] Speaker 1: so this never happened.
[8:19] Speaker 3: So listen just I mean, you know how I feel.
[8:22] Speaker 1: Okay, now we do.
[8:23] Speaker 3: You got some friggin' A listers in here. You had
[8:25] Speaker 3: some frigin A listers in here with their hot takes.
[8:28] Speaker 1: Look we're talking to Did you see Nicole Kimman have
[8:32] Speaker 1: what I would call like a little bit of a
[8:33] Speaker 1: happy fit over my shirt with Loney Tunes on it?
[8:36] Speaker 3: It went viral?
[8:38] Speaker 1: Great, seems like you saw it.
[8:39] Speaker 3: Yeah, it went viral. But she's like she has another
[8:44] Speaker 3: I mean, I think you could agree, and I think
[8:45] Speaker 3: the appearance confirmed. Nicole has an other worldlyness and if
[8:50] Speaker 3: you're lucky, like it feels like if you're it'll a
[8:52] Speaker 3: couple of these like moments will appear.
[8:55] Speaker 2: She remembers every she remembers everything. And you know what,
[8:58] Speaker 2: someone said, this is a woman. Oh when we asked
[9:00] Speaker 2: her about like would you want to direct, she was
[9:02] Speaker 2: like no, I just love acting so much. And then
[9:04] Speaker 2: someone else, a friend, pointed out like this woman has
[9:06] Speaker 2: never had a side hustle and isn't that amazing? Yeah,
[9:09] Speaker 2: Like we can't say the same for us, Like this
[9:13] Speaker 2: is this is the side hustle. I'm sorry to say.
[9:17] Speaker 3: When your side hustle is Chanel Ambassador, that's.
[9:21] Speaker 1: Like a life. You're right, You're so right, right.
[9:25] Speaker 3: Like it's she's it's that was a great episode.
[9:28] Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I mean, the thing is, it
[9:31] Speaker 1: was it was odd to feel at the end like
[9:34] Speaker 1: I could go off for drinks with Sometimes sometimes people
[9:39] Speaker 1: come in and I'm like, that's my friend. Now we
[9:40] Speaker 1: never speak again.
[9:42] Speaker 3: But I find that so hard to believe because I
[9:44] Speaker 3: feel and you know, you guys are so busy. I've
[9:47] Speaker 3: only met you a handful of times.
[9:48] Speaker 1: One time at the Olympics.
[9:50] Speaker 3: One time in Milan, I walked right in that parking lot.
[9:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, we were upset. Actually in that parking lot.
[9:55] Speaker 2: We were dealing with the situation where one of the
[9:57] Speaker 2: people in our group left her credentials at the hotel.
[10:01] Speaker 2: Take it and we were like do we wait for her?
[10:03] Speaker 2: But we're going to miss the opening serace.
[10:05] Speaker 3: In that and because you know, that was the kind
[10:08] Speaker 3: of thing where they told my group like thirty times yeah,
[10:11] Speaker 3: and they checked the credentials in the bus and then
[10:13] Speaker 3: they who was it?
[10:15] Speaker 2: We can it was a universal talent, right, it was
[10:18] Speaker 2: not universal talent.
[10:19] Speaker 3: It wasn't It was Hyah Gerber, celeb Kaya Gerber.
[10:26] Speaker 1: I just know that she'll be able to shoulder this.
[10:29] Speaker 1: If we start a rumor about Kya Gerber, She's going
[10:31] Speaker 1: to be fine.
[10:32] Speaker 3: Leaving her credentials is like not the worst things for
[10:34] Speaker 3: Kayakerber to do, because like, come on, no, the.
[10:37] Speaker 2: Person who loved her, well, I'm it's she her, but
[10:41] Speaker 2: she been gendered but I think for her also like
[10:44] Speaker 2: she she's the she has a Kyah Gerber as quality
[10:47] Speaker 2: about her.
[10:48] Speaker 1: Well, what ended up happening was this this girl and
[10:50] Speaker 1: who was like a hot, incredibly attractive girl, was like,
[10:53] Speaker 1: oh I forgot my credentials. Fuck, maybe it won't be
[10:56] Speaker 1: a big deal. Guess what reader. It wasn't. It wasn't.
[10:59] Speaker 1: She breathed through was in the seat way before. Yeah,
[11:03] Speaker 1: I figured it out.
[11:04] Speaker 2: It's like, yes, you.
[11:05] Speaker 3: Did, confirming every bad feeling that we think of, like
[11:09] Speaker 3: that you don't need credentials if you're so hot, particularly
[11:11] Speaker 3: in Italy.
[11:12] Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and Milan like you're like, oh right, racist coming.
[11:19] Speaker 3: I didn't have my credential. They would have been like
[11:21] Speaker 3: you must have got back to.
[11:24] Speaker 1: Whatever.
[11:25] Speaker 3: Lonely, oh night, you cannot see opening ceremonies, a room service.
[11:33] Speaker 1: Lonely might be fron lonely, but we houd your Olympics
[11:39] Speaker 1: because we didn't. We barely saw it. We did not
[11:40] Speaker 1: see you.
[11:41] Speaker 3: You guys were working, Yeah you were. You were working
[11:44] Speaker 3: and bringing a lot of joy and I think explaining
[11:47] Speaker 3: what was going on.
[11:48] Speaker 1: In the best way we could, which, by the way,
[11:51] Speaker 1: by the end, we actually knew the rules to ice
[11:54] Speaker 1: dancing and we're self described fans.
[11:57] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[11:57] Speaker 1: He was really into the curl.
[11:59] Speaker 2: I love the curling.
[12:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, you did a lot of different different events.
[12:03] Speaker 2: Speed's getting I sat out of hockey, of women's hockey.
[12:06] Speaker 1: He did sit out of women's hockey because you don't
[12:09] Speaker 1: think we should.
[12:11] Speaker 3: No, says Bowen, this is a man's.
[12:14] Speaker 2: Sportsport, and yeah, it's my anti lesbian sort of sentiment
[12:20] Speaker 2: coming out. But I really did not know. I am
[12:24] Speaker 2: sad that I missed it. Yeah, what did you go to?
[12:26] Speaker 3: I went, So this happens very rarely, but it's kind
[12:29] Speaker 3: of glamor and nice where Warner Brothers, who are my boss,
[12:33] Speaker 3: generously just said do you want to come with some
[12:35] Speaker 3: people to go? And so it was me and a
[12:39] Speaker 3: couple other Warner Brothers celebrities and they're like, can you
[12:41] Speaker 3: you just want to watch ice skating? And then we
[12:43] Speaker 3: shopped and then I left. It was all right, nice,
[12:46] Speaker 3: but I would say the opening ceremony, I don't know
[12:48] Speaker 3: if you felt this way, it was like very I
[12:54] Speaker 3: guess I don't. I guess I don't know that much
[12:56] Speaker 3: about like performances of like art and other countries. It
[12:59] Speaker 3: was so it was like Vegas Times of thousands.
[13:02] Speaker 1: It was so much about paint, you know what I mean.
[13:07] Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, like one of the big themes
[13:09] Speaker 1: was paint materially paint.
[13:11] Speaker 3: It was. It was not straightforward in the way that
[13:14] Speaker 3: I think in an American opening ceremony would be like
[13:17] Speaker 3: where it was like this means this, and this means this.
[13:20] Speaker 3: It was really like swirling colors and symbolistic stuff.
[13:25] Speaker 1: Do you remember the fleet of men helping Mariah to
[13:29] Speaker 1: and fro.
[13:30] Speaker 3: Oh my god not. I don't remember that until this moment.
[13:33] Speaker 3: That was amazing.
[13:34] Speaker 1: It was just like you saw, just like it had
[13:36] Speaker 1: to be like four or five people like bringing her
[13:39] Speaker 1: out to the center. She sang her song and then
[13:41] Speaker 1: they all came out and like all it was like
[13:44] Speaker 1: a team effort again.
[13:45] Speaker 2: Like it was really good.
[13:46] Speaker 3: It was gorgeous. The venue like I've never been in
[13:49] Speaker 3: something that many people me neither me neither and I
[13:53] Speaker 3: love Milan.
[13:54] Speaker 1: See. My gay guy self was like, I bet Taylor
[13:58] Speaker 1: did eras here, and we found out she did. She did?
[14:01] Speaker 3: She really?
[14:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, that was a Taylor Swift size stadium right there.
[14:05] Speaker 2: Have you've not been to. Well, the big thing about
[14:09] Speaker 2: European stadiums like that is there will be people on
[14:13] Speaker 2: the ground or in the aisles offering free water, and
[14:16] Speaker 2: you just don't get that here.
[14:18] Speaker 3: No, that was that did happen several times. That was
[14:21] Speaker 3: really nice.
[14:22] Speaker 1: They were all so kind. Yes, and well we felt
[14:25] Speaker 1: sad because we left before Charlie's.
[14:28] Speaker 3: I think I might have left. It was it was
[14:33] Speaker 3: three or four hours long. No, not that.
[14:35] Speaker 1: It was approximately sixteen hours steen hours.
[14:38] Speaker 3: Long of entertainment.
[14:39] Speaker 2: We left, Oh well we left after the flags. But
[14:42] Speaker 2: I was like by the time, like the guys came
[14:45] Speaker 2: out and it looked like salad on the floor, you
[14:48] Speaker 2: know what I mean.
[14:48] Speaker 1: It was a red, red, white, and green.
[14:50] Speaker 2: It was like, oh, you know, great italy. But then
[14:55] Speaker 2: it is, gosh, it's it's kind of all fuzzy.
[14:59] Speaker 1: Yeah, so you did see ice skating though, I did see. Yeah,
[15:02] Speaker 1: you had to see ice skating.
[15:03] Speaker 3: I mean that was that was amazing.
[15:05] Speaker 1: We saw the team win gold. Oh my god, that
[15:09] Speaker 1: was really cool.
[15:09] Speaker 3: That is that's huge? Did you That's I didn't see.
[15:13] Speaker 3: I don't think I saw the Americans win anything.
[15:16] Speaker 1: You know what's so funny. This is another connection we
[15:18] Speaker 1: have because you know who I was texting the whole
[15:20] Speaker 1: time was Chris Schliker.
[15:21] Speaker 3: I was literally gonna say. It made me really respect Chris.
[15:24] Speaker 1: Yes, so this is a mutual friend that we all have.
[15:27] Speaker 1: Chris has worked with Mindy and is a friend of ours,
[15:30] Speaker 1: and he was a professional figure.
[15:33] Speaker 3: Skater with his his little sister, Yeah, pairs pears and
[15:37] Speaker 3: he then is also a comedy writer. Yes, so he's
[15:40] Speaker 3: had a really fun he's like.
[15:42] Speaker 2: Just a chill life.
[15:45] Speaker 1: He should be nominated for the Michael Jordan Award for
[15:47] Speaker 1: I also do this an award at the Culture Awards.
[15:50] Speaker 3: And it made me because I know he had done it,
[15:52] Speaker 3: but that made me really understand how hard it was.
[15:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, and also.
[15:56] Speaker 3: The pairs thing is is tough because it's one of
[15:59] Speaker 3: them sometimes messes up and you can't be really mad
[16:03] Speaker 3: at them, right or if you are, you have to
[16:05] Speaker 3: really suppress that. So there's a lot of acting involved.
[16:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[16:08] Speaker 2: Do you watch the documentary on Netflix? No, the Ice
[16:11] Speaker 2: Dance Pairs. Oh, it's phenomenal, three parts quick. I mean
[16:15] Speaker 2: it when when you know how it ends based on
[16:17] Speaker 2: how the metals shook out, Yeah, it's a little it's
[16:20] Speaker 2: a little disappointing.
[16:20] Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta watch it.
[16:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, because because there's like, because what the French pair,
[16:24] Speaker 2: the French pair, who are the villain? Like clearly the villains?
[16:26] Speaker 2: Like when the documentary paints a villain, Yes, French pair
[16:30] Speaker 2: is a villain, and there's like I could go ahead
[16:33] Speaker 2: and call him an evil gay guy with a huge ass, and.
[16:37] Speaker 1: They won gold and I'm telling you you can tell.
[16:39] Speaker 1: It's like when they hit the ice, it's like a
[16:41] Speaker 1: Blades of Glory character. It's like when Amy Poehler and
[16:44] Speaker 1: will are Net comes out and you're like, oh, well,
[16:45] Speaker 1: those are the villains. That was so how they appeared
[16:48] Speaker 1: on ice and then they did a routine to Madonna's
[16:51] Speaker 1: Vogue and it was just so incredible that you're like, yeah,
[16:55] Speaker 1: that mean guy. I hope when.
[16:57] Speaker 3: How did you know he was mean?
[17:00] Speaker 2: Well, so the story is he.
[17:06] Speaker 3: It was his face. Okay, I thought it was in
[17:08] Speaker 3: the documentary.
[17:08] Speaker 2: He said, it is in the documentary essentially. So, so
[17:13] Speaker 2: the new pair. The incredible thing is they had only
[17:17] Speaker 2: been skating together as a pair for like nine months,
[17:20] Speaker 2: when most pairs are you developed over the course of
[17:23] Speaker 2: many years. But it's because the woman was Canadian. Was
[17:28] Speaker 2: this kibequa woman who her partner has been disqualified from
[17:35] Speaker 2: the league because of an essay allegation and she kind
[17:39] Speaker 2: of stood by him, but he could no longer compete
[17:42] Speaker 2: and she was without a partner. He was without a
[17:45] Speaker 2: partner because he because his partner was like he is
[17:51] Speaker 2: a very toxic person and this dynamic was really bad
[17:54] Speaker 2: for him. This is so juicy and out of necessity
[17:59] Speaker 2: they go together under a year, went all the way
[18:03] Speaker 2: like disqualified for the Olympics, and then one gold.
[18:06] Speaker 3: Wow decidedly okay wow okay.
[18:09] Speaker 1: And by the way, this is like amidst like the
[18:13] Speaker 1: America's Sweetheart narrative that Madison Chalk and Evan Bates very
[18:17] Speaker 1: much had and we were all rooting for them and
[18:19] Speaker 1: then they just got stomped out by the mean French people.
[18:21] Speaker 3: Madison Chock has star power.
[18:23] Speaker 2: Oh oh, that's a good couple.
[18:25] Speaker 3: I don't remember him as well. But Madison Jock, she's
[18:28] Speaker 3: got that smile right.
[18:29] Speaker 1: She is always beaming, finding her light. It is so
[18:34] Speaker 1: it's it's a smile for God.
[18:36] Speaker 2: It's a smile for God. Yeah, a Christian God.
[18:39] Speaker 1: It's a smile for a Christian God.
[18:41] Speaker 2: She could it's a smile for especially number thirty Madison
[18:45] Speaker 2: Chalk smile.
[18:49] Speaker 3: It's really true. She could. She should sell She could
[18:52] Speaker 3: sell me anything. Yeah, Like if she was like had
[18:54] Speaker 3: a some kind of a.
[18:55] Speaker 1: Part of brand, where's nutre gina on her?
[18:58] Speaker 3: I know I would, I would buy it.
[19:00] Speaker 2: But the gag is that she was designing other people's outfits.
[19:03] Speaker 3: Yeah, then I did hear this right? So she she
[19:07] Speaker 3: was watching her competitors dance in her own clothes outfits.
[19:11] Speaker 2: Yes, yep, yes that is.
[19:12] Speaker 3: You know, ice skanning is real, interesting, absoluteist.
[19:17] Speaker 1: We left as like big fans.
[19:20] Speaker 2: Yeah it was fabulous.
[19:23] Speaker 1: We were like that. We were watching them hit the
[19:24] Speaker 1: ice when we're like, no, I'm not clean. And we
[19:27] Speaker 1: were watching with Adam Raupan.
[19:29] Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he seems fun.
[19:30] Speaker 1: Oh the best.
[19:32] Speaker 3: That's nice.
[19:33] Speaker 2: A great time, A great time.
[19:34] Speaker 3: I like when people live up to because he does
[19:36] Speaker 3: seem cool.
[19:37] Speaker 2: Nice guy with a huge ass.
[19:39] Speaker 3: Nice guy with a huge out there. Yes, and you
[19:42] Speaker 3: could see them all up close and personal.
[19:44] Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah.
[19:47] Speaker 2: I try to be polite. I don't look.
[19:50] Speaker 3: You don't look. Please, I say you look, but politeness
[19:54] Speaker 3: is not saying but you don't even look.
[19:56] Speaker 2: I don't even look. I get shoy, I get I
[19:58] Speaker 2: get eyeshy. You know. I just don't want it.
[20:01] Speaker 1: I don't want everyone's but whether they ice skating or not.
[20:04] Speaker 3: I think I do too. I just glance.
[20:06] Speaker 1: You just look.
[20:07] Speaker 3: You just got it. You just got a glance. I
[20:09] Speaker 3: look more now. Actually, after he did Rivalry.
[20:12] Speaker 1: Well, those were really good.
[20:13] Speaker 3: Those are really good.
[20:15] Speaker 1: Were you a big fan of the series.
[20:17] Speaker 3: I really liked it. I really liked the positions that
[20:21] Speaker 3: they did so that you could really see the butts. Yes,
[20:25] Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like there was like they
[20:28] Speaker 3: would often be that one great actor I'm forgetting his name.
[20:32] Speaker 1: Is it Connor Story?
[20:33] Speaker 3: Yeah? Connor story one, Yes, And he was so funny
[20:37] Speaker 3: on us. And now with all the act he was
[20:39] Speaker 3: so talented, amazing, but his greatest talent is the way
[20:42] Speaker 3: that he could contort his body so that the cinematographer
[20:45] Speaker 3: could catch his buttah being always juicy, because even with
[20:49] Speaker 3: people with juicy butts, it doesn't always look juicy.
[20:52] Speaker 1: No, you need you need the help of cinematography on set.
[20:56] Speaker 3: I find one like his legs would be splayed in
[20:59] Speaker 3: the right ways all the time. It's really but how
[21:03] Speaker 3: to find the light?
[21:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of the light, I was going to say, like,
[21:06] Speaker 2: what a beautiful convocation of the departments where it's like, oh,
[21:08] Speaker 2: the gaffer is really slang, you know what I mean, Like.
[21:11] Speaker 1: That ass is lit apart for those asses. Absolutely, And
[21:15] Speaker 1: you know, I think that Hudson felt the heat because
[21:17] Speaker 1: he was like, Okay, I gotta raise my game because
[21:20] Speaker 1: his ass can find the light this they're like first
[21:22] Speaker 1: scene where they like really have sex. There's a moment
[21:25] Speaker 1: where Hudson like starts crawling towards him, and the way
[21:30] Speaker 1: he turns like he's his leg. He's sort of like
[21:33] Speaker 1: getting you a little side.
[21:35] Speaker 2: But and it worked on me, and we we mean
[21:39] Speaker 2: cheating as in like tilting two camera. He was favoring
[21:45] Speaker 2: the camera and it worked on I think all of
[21:48] Speaker 2: the world and Conor story's incredible character Ilia Rosanoff.
[21:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, and I.
[21:54] Speaker 3: Should have led with that. They're great actors. He did,
[21:57] Speaker 3: And I like the story and the romance.
[21:59] Speaker 1: Well, they didn't lead with that. The first two episodes
[22:02] Speaker 1: were not about that.
[22:03] Speaker 3: Hey, I don't care about the sex and the show.
[22:06] Speaker 3: I just like the rumance. No, it's true. I just
[22:09] Speaker 3: you know, I don't know them in person, and I'm worried.
[22:11] Speaker 3: I'm always worried they're gonna be like, you didn't even
[22:13] Speaker 3: know my name. You call me accent guy unless cult,
[22:17] Speaker 3: but you see you said I was the accent guy
[22:20] Speaker 3: with the juicy button.
[22:21] Speaker 2: They need some humbling not humbling, but they would find
[22:24] Speaker 2: it refreshing that you would be like, oh my gosh,
[22:27] Speaker 2: you're that wonderful actor. They would love that because I
[22:30] Speaker 2: think now they now my algorithm is a lot of
[22:32] Speaker 2: people like zooming in on like sweatpant photos of them
[22:36] Speaker 2: and like they're.
[22:36] Speaker 3: Getting the treatment.
[22:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, they've reached that.
[22:39] Speaker 2: They've gotten They've gotten to that level. And I'm like,
[22:40] Speaker 2: that's great, happy for them, unless it's like unless it's
[22:44] Speaker 2: like not necessarily wanted. But who's to say. Who's to say?
[22:49] Speaker 1: They're pretty publicly like every time they pose for a camera,
[22:53] Speaker 1: it's sort of given, like want me, want me, want me.
[22:56] Speaker 2: Word.
[22:57] Speaker 3: As someone who's never been objectified, I under stand there
[23:00] Speaker 3: are people who don't like it, but it's very hard
[23:03] Speaker 3: to relate to.
[23:04] Speaker 2: I'm jealous.
[23:05] Speaker 3: I'm like, I would never I just would only. I
[23:07] Speaker 3: would only ever love for people to to be pushing
[23:10] Speaker 3: in on my chest, like to be taking a photo
[23:13] Speaker 3: and pushing in to see.
[23:14] Speaker 1: If you can.
[23:15] Speaker 3: I saw her nipples.
[23:18] Speaker 1: I'm going to show your perception. You went, you went, you,
[23:21] Speaker 1: you left and came back in. Fraser sat down and
[23:24] Speaker 1: he said, most beautiful woman I've ever seen?
[23:26] Speaker 3: Are you kidding?
[23:27] Speaker 1: Meal? What? He loves you? Who?
[23:31] Speaker 3: Who am I hotter than wait?
[23:33] Speaker 1: No?
[23:34] Speaker 3: No, I that's so that is really nice. Thank you guys,
[23:39] Speaker 3: it's a lot of work. Thank you. I appreciate it
[23:42] Speaker 3: for all of us, truly, I appreciate it.
[23:45] Speaker 1: Thank you and phrases he's over there in heaven. Well
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[25:29] Speaker 2: Mindy kating. What is the culture that made you say culture.
[25:31] Speaker 1: Is for me?
[25:33] Speaker 3: Okay? I think the culture that made me say that
[25:37] Speaker 3: culture is for me is award shows. And I'm not.
[25:40] Speaker 3: I guess I'm not.
[25:42] Speaker 1: We know you're not.
[25:43] Speaker 3: No, we know this is not synergistic. It's not a
[25:46] Speaker 3: cynical synergistic answer because of this, because of what's happening.
[25:49] Speaker 1: Thank you for knowing how much it helps us tonight
[25:52] Speaker 1: it to mention them.
[25:54] Speaker 3: I feel and I don't know if you guys felt
[25:56] Speaker 3: this way. That I grew up in suburban Boston, and
[26:00] Speaker 3: I think award shows for me, as someone who felt
[26:02] Speaker 3: like I had no access to Hollywood or anything, was
[26:05] Speaker 3: an amazing mix of competitiveness, couture and Hollywood and chowbiz,
[26:12] Speaker 3: and to me, those were all the things that I mean,
[26:15] Speaker 3: as like a competitive Asian nerd, like I love that
[26:18] Speaker 3: element of it too, like they can't just get up
[26:19] Speaker 3: and win an award, they have to fight each other.
[26:22] Speaker 3: And also, I don't know if you guys felt this way,
[26:24] Speaker 3: but I was so nerdy about award shows that I
[26:27] Speaker 3: was like, I'll remember so distinctly when al Pacino was
[26:30] Speaker 3: up for his Oscar for Son of a Woman. I
[26:32] Speaker 3: was probably like twelve years old, Yes, I was like ten.
[26:35] Speaker 3: I was ten or eleven years old, but I remember
[26:38] Speaker 3: so well, being like the lore of it, being like,
[26:41] Speaker 3: you know, like I was the kid that was walking
[26:43] Speaker 3: around being like, you know that he's been nominated for Godfather,
[26:47] Speaker 3: Godfather too, Surpaco and Dogged Afternoon and he's never won,
[26:50] Speaker 3: so this could be the time he won. And I
[26:52] Speaker 3: was like, I didn't haven't seen any of those movies,
[26:54] Speaker 3: but I knew the importance of like, this is a
[26:57] Speaker 3: story of a man who's been snubbed several times. He
[27:00] Speaker 3: is owed this And I'd just go around at school
[27:03] Speaker 3: telling people this information because I thought it was important.
[27:07] Speaker 3: So I think award shows and we'd all like get
[27:09] Speaker 3: together and watch them, you know. I think that was
[27:12] Speaker 3: really and like, I don't know if you guys felt
[27:14] Speaker 3: this way, Like the vibe of the Golden Globes was
[27:16] Speaker 3: so different than the Oscars, and you could wear cocktail
[27:19] Speaker 3: for the Golden Globes when you wouldn't dare wear that
[27:21] Speaker 3: to the Oscar. Yeah, and if you did, it was
[27:23] Speaker 3: because you were like b York or Sharon Stone and
[27:26] Speaker 3: was trying to like make a standment. So to me,
[27:28] Speaker 3: award shows are like was a huge part of like
[27:33] Speaker 3: when I decided culture was culture.
[27:34] Speaker 1: I had this feeling about you because this reminds me
[27:37] Speaker 1: of when I met you, because do you remember when
[27:39] Speaker 1: I met you at sun Dance? You were there with
[27:42] Speaker 1: Late Night. Oh my god, So I was covering the
[27:45] Speaker 1: festival for Vulture. We used to do that together, but
[27:47] Speaker 1: what had just booked ess to now? So I went
[27:49] Speaker 1: up to Sundance by myself and you came in for
[27:52] Speaker 1: Late Night, and I was asking everyone who's gonna win
[27:55] Speaker 1: the Best Actress Oscar this year? And I was saying,
[27:58] Speaker 1: is it going to be Glenn Close or Gaga? Glenn
[28:01] Speaker 1: Close for the wife and Lady Gaga first Star is born?
[28:04] Speaker 1: And you said it's going to be Olivia Coleman for
[28:06] Speaker 1: the favorite, and you were right, and you were the
[28:08] Speaker 1: only one who said publicly who they thought would win.
[28:13] Speaker 1: Naomi Watts almost left the room.
[28:15] Speaker 3: Wait, wait a second, I said.
[28:18] Speaker 1: That you've said Olivia Coleman.
[28:20] Speaker 3: By the way, you're Nicole Cadman with your memory.
[28:23] Speaker 1: That was my first incredible uh second of all.
[28:28] Speaker 3: I can't believe I said that you did, because sometimes
[28:30] Speaker 3: on red carpets, don't you just feel like you're like,
[28:32] Speaker 3: I'm just prattling on, like, let me just have takes
[28:35] Speaker 3: just to say stuff.
[28:36] Speaker 1: I never say anything. I'm behind things. Just I just
[28:40] Speaker 1: talked for two minutes and I don't know what.
[28:42] Speaker 3: I to the point where I feel like sometimes I'm like,
[28:44] Speaker 3: I want to test out this new thought. I don't
[28:47] Speaker 3: even feel it.
[28:48] Speaker 1: Maybe I think this.
[28:49] Speaker 3: Maybe I think this, I'm going to see how it
[28:50] Speaker 3: sounds in public and then do it. And it's you
[28:52] Speaker 3: should be thinking the opposite. You should be like, I
[28:55] Speaker 3: need to have a tried and true opinion here. Hey,
[28:58] Speaker 3: I'm really impressed you nail. Maybe I affected. Maybe that's what.
[29:03] Speaker 1: Why it happened. Whoa, I mean, definitely it was a
[29:06] Speaker 1: nail bier that you.
[29:07] Speaker 2: Were compelled to say that as an informed take. You're
[29:11] Speaker 2: someone who follows awards.
[29:13] Speaker 3: I mean it's so lusory to be someone who has
[29:16] Speaker 3: informed takes about award shows. But I am.
[29:19] Speaker 1: We were like, we were literally just saying today, one
[29:22] Speaker 1: of our answers to this question is the ninety for
[29:26] Speaker 1: the ninety seven films, because that was the one titan
[29:29] Speaker 1: huge year. It was.
[29:31] Speaker 2: It was my first Oscars and it was like, who's
[29:33] Speaker 2: this Billy Crystal guy. He's so funny, so funny? What
[29:36] Speaker 2: are all these baby packages with him in the movie, Like,
[29:38] Speaker 2: oh my god, look like it. It just and it
[29:41] Speaker 2: felt like this big snub when Helen Hunt won or
[29:44] Speaker 2: something to kids, because I was reading for Kate Win's like, yeah.
[29:46] Speaker 3: That was where like good will hunting was against Titanic, right.
[29:49] Speaker 1: It was goodwill hunting as good as it gets Titanic.
[29:53] Speaker 1: I believe that year was also La confidential. I'm like
[29:56] Speaker 1: Oh my god, Kim Basinger won her Oscar that year.
[29:59] Speaker 3: Oh my god.
[30:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, like award shows.
[30:02] Speaker 2: I've been saying this because we we just started dunking
[30:04] Speaker 2: today for the for the Cultural Awards. I was like, Oh,
[30:06] Speaker 2: it's like the beam refracted into all these different things
[30:09] Speaker 2: that I love now, which is like music, dance, live comedy,
[30:13] Speaker 2: live television, comedy like it.
[30:14] Speaker 1: It's just it has everything. It has.
[30:18] Speaker 2: The structure of a variety show, but it has the
[30:21] Speaker 2: arc of something where it like all builds up to
[30:24] Speaker 2: this thing where by the end of the night, like
[30:25] Speaker 2: people are either completely disappointed or so triumphant.
[30:28] Speaker 3: Well I think I think that's so correct, and especially
[30:32] Speaker 3: now Bowen were like, I mean the Wicked Press Tour, right,
[30:35] Speaker 3: you have these long of us. There's these arcs, as
[30:38] Speaker 3: you said, like there's these arcs of stories where you're
[30:41] Speaker 3: just like watching like like Cynthia and Ariana and like
[30:44] Speaker 3: this is what it was like then, and this is
[30:46] Speaker 3: this Caparelli thing they wore and miss held her finger
[30:48] Speaker 3: and now this is now she seems like maybe she's
[30:51] Speaker 3: fed up or someone tried to grab her and like
[30:53] Speaker 3: you know, like you know what I mean, Like and
[30:55] Speaker 3: everyone has different different arcs leading up to it, like
[30:59] Speaker 3: the tide turned so much as well. Yeah, so a
[31:02] Speaker 3: workshows are are? I feel like they're only becoming more
[31:05] Speaker 3: and more. This is what I can imagine real football
[31:09] Speaker 3: fans feel. The Super Bowl.
[31:10] Speaker 1: Yes, when we were there for Wicked, because I went
[31:14] Speaker 1: as Bowen state it fell. I felt physical pain.
[31:18] Speaker 3: When because it was such the.
[31:22] Speaker 2: The room, the room, really you've experienced this like in
[31:26] Speaker 2: those rooms what it shifts and it just and you're like, oh, whoa,
[31:30] Speaker 2: this is strange.
[31:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, because also you're very aware that someone has just
[31:34] Speaker 1: won an Oscar who obviously it's an incredible performance. But yes,
[31:38] Speaker 1: to know that there was that much happening in that
[31:42] Speaker 1: moment was so wild.
[31:44] Speaker 3: Yes, this is why I felt this about al Pacino.
[31:47] Speaker 3: He's got to win.
[31:48] Speaker 1: Yes, he's been overlooked luckily.
[31:51] Speaker 3: But you know what else about Demi Moore is that
[31:53] Speaker 3: she had given that speech, Hey, I'm a loser. I'm
[31:56] Speaker 3: a loser. I remember the speech she gave speech at
[32:00] Speaker 3: the Globes, which was incredible, one of the great acceptance speech.
[32:04] Speaker 1: I thought it was shown up for her and then
[32:08] Speaker 1: and then and then.
[32:09] Speaker 2: And then I was going to say, you know what
[32:11] Speaker 2: reading your first book inspired me WHOA because I was like.
[32:15] Speaker 3: Even WHOA, like just a nice I related a nice pivot.
[32:19] Speaker 1: He's a pro.
[32:20] Speaker 2: No, it's no, no, no, I love yang, he's a pro.
[32:26] Speaker 2: That was not a segue. That was a hard lurch
[32:28] Speaker 2: of a pivot.
[32:29] Speaker 3: I don't know. I loved it and shouldn't have said
[32:31] Speaker 3: whoa because I sled. I slowed this down your momentum time.
[32:34] Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no, this is this is all
[32:35] Speaker 2: part of it.
[32:36] Speaker 3: Please.
[32:37] Speaker 1: I was expecting an answer.
[32:39] Speaker 2: To the question, uh, like in terms of maybe like
[32:43] Speaker 2: the Simpsons or SNL, where I related to you so
[32:45] Speaker 2: much When you were saying that you would, you would look,
[32:48] Speaker 2: you'd watch the credits of these shows and be like,
[32:50] Speaker 2: who are the writers?
[32:51] Speaker 3: Oh my god?
[32:52] Speaker 2: Yes, because this was something that like Matt and I
[32:54] Speaker 2: would do growing up where were like and it didn't
[32:57] Speaker 2: occur to us until later, until we were like earnestly
[33:01] Speaker 2: like aspiring to comedy jobs. Were like, oh yeah, I
[33:04] Speaker 2: guess that does. Like that does sort of like set
[33:06] Speaker 2: things apart for us where we're like, we've loved this
[33:09] Speaker 2: real long.
[33:09] Speaker 1: One day, I'm gonna meet Brian Tucker.
[33:11] Speaker 3: Literally at sleepovers, like your friends are moving on, They're
[33:15] Speaker 3: playing mash in another room sleepover, and I'm like, who
[33:18] Speaker 3: is Dennis McNicholas. I can't Maybe one day I'll.
[33:24] Speaker 2: Don't know.
[33:25] Speaker 3: I've never met Dennis Nicholas.
[33:27] Speaker 2: I love him.
[33:27] Speaker 1: I met Paula Pellet and I was like, I'm going up,
[33:30] Speaker 1: but it was hard.
[33:31] Speaker 3: I was like, she really lives up to it, right
[33:33] Speaker 3: because she's also a performer and she's so funny.
[33:35] Speaker 1: She's just the best.
[33:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, and she was like one of the only female
[33:39] Speaker 3: names you would see on.
[33:39] Speaker 2: Those Definitely totally And but I'm just gonna say like that,
[33:44] Speaker 2: like I love I feel like you're this is we're
[33:47] Speaker 2: kin folk because it's like you award shows, but also
[33:50] Speaker 2: this thing that imprinted on you very early on, which
[33:53] Speaker 2: is like comedy credits.
[33:55] Speaker 3: Yes, you know what I mean, Ken, i'mm is that
[33:57] Speaker 3: a mom?
[33:59] Speaker 2: Like?
[33:59] Speaker 3: I remember seeing his name because it was very It
[34:01] Speaker 3: was one of the first credits that you'd see when
[34:04] Speaker 3: the show was ending, and I was like, that guy,
[34:06] Speaker 3: what is his role?
[34:07] Speaker 2: He's he was the sort of control room producer like
[34:11] Speaker 2: stagement just made sure everyone came to blocking on time,
[34:14] Speaker 2: but like ran such a tight ship. Yeah, wow, people,
[34:17] Speaker 2: I don't know people. I love that man, Ken Kenny,
[34:21] Speaker 2: see I need to I have always been very curious
[34:23] Speaker 2: about your your your guest writing stent. Oh yeah, what
[34:26] Speaker 2: was like like talk about that?
[34:28] Speaker 3: It was so it was so intimidating. Yeah, it was.
[34:35] Speaker 3: People were it was. It was really intimidating. I learned
[34:39] Speaker 3: so much. Some people were extremely friendly and it was intense. Yeah,
[34:43] Speaker 3: Like I I got a glimpse of something that I thought, like,
[34:47] Speaker 3: you guys know now that la writing scene on a
[34:50] Speaker 3: sitcom is so different than writing on a variety show.
[34:54] Speaker 3: I didn't think that. I thought it would just be
[34:56] Speaker 3: like being on the writers being I thought it would
[34:59] Speaker 3: just be like being in the writers room for the office,
[35:01] Speaker 3: but more glamorous later hours. And it was it's a
[35:04] Speaker 3: completely different vibe. But it was, like I remember distinctly,
[35:10] Speaker 3: like Amy and Tina were so kind, Will Forte was
[35:13] Speaker 3: so game and so kind. The Lonely Island guys were
[35:16] Speaker 3: really nice. But it was also unmistakably and I think
[35:19] Speaker 3: I think you would say this like super competitive and
[35:24] Speaker 3: like there was like kind of like a little bit
[35:26] Speaker 3: more of a whisper culture than I thought a little
[35:29] Speaker 3: bit or like just like I but I It wasn't
[35:31] Speaker 3: like anyone was unfriendly to me. I just noticed it
[35:33] Speaker 3: was kind of anthropologically interesting to come and see it
[35:37] Speaker 3: the way the doors would close, doors closed, And I
[35:40] Speaker 3: mean I I could not and did not take anything
[35:43] Speaker 3: at all personally because I was just there for two
[35:45] Speaker 3: weeks and people were really nice about the office. And
[35:48] Speaker 3: that was before the Office was even I think considered
[35:50] Speaker 3: to be like a cool show. I think this was
[35:52] Speaker 3: in the hiatus between season two and three, but it wasn't.
[35:56] Speaker 3: It hadn't like fully become like a hit.
[35:58] Speaker 2: I think at that point, like like you were like
[36:01] Speaker 2: like like Kelly was like like like a main like.
[36:07] Speaker 1: One did that because Kelly was a different type of character.
[36:10] Speaker 1: The first season, Yes.
[36:12] Speaker 3: Right, Kelly was like is English her first language? Like
[36:15] Speaker 3: when you saw her, like is she like from another country?
[36:18] Speaker 3: Like the way she dressed Okay, but I felt like
[36:22] Speaker 3: she was just like like a kind of like like
[36:25] Speaker 3: she's she's like a woman from another country, Michael, like,
[36:29] Speaker 3: don't be like it was. She wasn't like pop culture Kelly.
[36:33] Speaker 3: But second season she was more. But I think at
[36:37] Speaker 3: that time, if I may say, I think people respected
[36:40] Speaker 3: the Office, but I don't think SNL was quite okay.
[36:42] Speaker 3: So I feel like people who like Kelly are like
[36:44] Speaker 3: a certain kind of woman and gay man. And I
[36:46] Speaker 3: don't think SNL was that gay.
[36:48] Speaker 1: Then James and.
[36:52] Speaker 2: Were holding it down.
[36:53] Speaker 3: Yeah so I think, but I think everyone like respected.
[36:56] Speaker 3: We had a lot of crossover. I think Mike Sure
[36:59] Speaker 3: had a lot of friends obviously still at SNL, and
[37:01] Speaker 3: he was I worked with him there, so that was
[37:03] Speaker 3: a nice name to drop when I would meet people.
[37:06] Speaker 2: Totally.
[37:06] Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I mean I I was in awe
[37:11] Speaker 3: of it obviously, and but yeah, like you know.
[37:17] Speaker 2: But gosh, I mean, it's it's so interesting that like
[37:19] Speaker 2: the Office was able to sort of like this is
[37:22] Speaker 2: the wrong word for it, but like Bell weathered, like
[37:24] Speaker 2: the queer coded humor before a show like SNL. Could
[37:28] Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Or that's not fair to say,
[37:30] Speaker 2: but it's like I can recite here, here we go.
[37:33] Speaker 2: Here's a deep cut. You think you think the Mini
[37:35] Speaker 2: Project is a deep cut? Check this out. You don't
[37:38] Speaker 2: would turn my text you see him up? Oh, don't
[37:40] Speaker 2: get no text once you got a d D added up.
[37:43] Speaker 2: Don't equal you and me? Like Shakespeare said, to be
[37:46] Speaker 2: or not to be? Sometimes your roam meo with me.
[37:51] Speaker 1: I sometimes you roam MEO with me.
[37:55] Speaker 3: Wait, I am dying.
[37:58] Speaker 1: That wasn't even an office episode. That was a bonus online.
[38:00] Speaker 3: Video was when webisoites you're trying to figure out if
[38:05] Speaker 3: websites or now I am. I got to say, I'm
[38:08] Speaker 3: really happy that you think of that fondly, because the
[38:10] Speaker 3: next line is you look gay and you're skinny.
[38:15] Speaker 1: Killed in a drive.
[38:18] Speaker 3: It's not okay to say. Now.
[38:20] Speaker 1: You can't say comedy your back you're laughing.
[38:24] Speaker 3: That's all that matters, you know, you would say you look.
[38:30] Speaker 1: That's around the time when Katy Perry was like, you're
[38:32] Speaker 1: so gay, you don't even like, yeah, doesn't.
[38:40] Speaker 3: I feel so happy that somewhere, n y you not
[38:45] Speaker 3: even ny somewhere it's your, it's your. When you're a
[38:48] Speaker 3: freshman in high school, that you were like noticing dramaturgically
[38:52] Speaker 3: different things that we're going into subtle sexuality.
[38:55] Speaker 1: We would watch, like I just remember, we would. There
[38:58] Speaker 1: was the Beach Games episode. Out of the Office is
[39:00] Speaker 1: my favorite episode of TV maybe ever. Wow, Oh my god.
[39:05] Speaker 1: My high school friend and I would watch it again
[39:06] Speaker 1: and again and again, and I would just love a
[39:08] Speaker 1: good old fashion like Kelly one line like, yeah, I
[39:11] Speaker 1: have a question, how dare you so well? I'm pregnant?
[39:16] Speaker 1: Cut to her confessional.
[39:18] Speaker 3: You know, it's been nice. This has happened with you
[39:20] Speaker 3: guys a lot. I love being memed and those are
[39:24] Speaker 3: really it's really it makes me feel young to be
[39:28] Speaker 3: memed and like those lines, like being able to see
[39:30] Speaker 3: them because I don't know.
[39:33] Speaker 1: It's forever and the front runner for title of here
[39:39] Speaker 1: is now to be mean to me.
[39:42] Speaker 2: You know, I'm saying the office is forever.
[39:44] Speaker 1: That's you must be like feather in the cap that's
[39:48] Speaker 1: that is forever.
[39:49] Speaker 3: It does feel nice when because you never know, like
[39:53] Speaker 3: I've had some shows that work, some of that people
[39:55] Speaker 3: really don't like. But it's nice to be able to
[39:57] Speaker 3: look back at that one and be like, okay, I
[40:00] Speaker 3: because you know, when you write a bunch of episodes
[40:02] Speaker 3: like that and then you do a lot of shows
[40:04] Speaker 3: that are like The Sex Size with College Girls and
[40:06] Speaker 3: The MINDI Project, which is like totally so different and
[40:09] Speaker 3: a lot of men hate them, it's nice that they're like,
[40:15] Speaker 3: they're like, how did she work on them? You can
[40:17] Speaker 3: see them being loud, did she work in the office?
[40:19] Speaker 3: Because we like the office.
[40:21] Speaker 1: Shows so it's nice to be a multitude.
[40:25] Speaker 3: So it's nice that thank you for for saying that.
[40:28] Speaker 3: I like. I like what I like about you guys,
[40:30] Speaker 3: is you watch a lot of stuff? I do too?
[40:33] Speaker 1: What What's What's what's been your media diet?
[40:38] Speaker 3: I'm not a snob at all, and so I watch
[40:42] Speaker 3: everything from Fraser Show?
[40:45] Speaker 1: Do you watch below Deck?
[40:46] Speaker 3: Below Deck? Which I got into because of the young
[40:50] Speaker 3: writers on my show. I'm not really a big reality
[40:53] Speaker 3: show person. And then yet also like and but I'll
[40:58] Speaker 3: learn about them from like like I feel like I'll
[41:01] Speaker 3: see like page in Hannah.
[41:02] Speaker 1: I would want to share you go deep on Summerhouse.
[41:04] Speaker 1: I want Summer Summer House podcast.
[41:07] Speaker 3: Thank you. I gotta I don't know if I know
[41:08] Speaker 3: quite enough.
[41:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, yet I would. This is a classic.
[41:13] Speaker 1: This is a huge straight to series for me. Is
[41:16] Speaker 1: you starting from it one of Summerhouse?
[41:18] Speaker 3: Okay?
[41:19] Speaker 1: I see billions of dollars?
[41:21] Speaker 3: I like, I love that you can do. I do
[41:23] Speaker 3: anything to not have to write television.
[41:27] Speaker 1: It's so hard. Raise that's not so good.
[41:31] Speaker 2: I just when did you have this feeling? Because you know,
[41:34] Speaker 2: you know what, It dawned on me that like writing
[41:36] Speaker 2: fucking sucks was when Phoebe waller Bridge hosted SNL and
[41:39] Speaker 2: we were talking between you know, blocking, stopdowns or whatever,
[41:42] Speaker 2: and I was just like whatever. I didn't even bring
[41:44] Speaker 2: it up. She just goes, writing is the worst fucking
[41:47] Speaker 2: thing in the worldly. I hate to do it, and
[41:50] Speaker 2: yet I have to and it's amazing and I do
[41:53] Speaker 2: love it, but it is the worst. Ultimately she loves it.
[41:55] Speaker 2: Which she was telling me was it is by nature
[41:58] Speaker 2: so fucking hard.
[42:00] Speaker 3: It's so hard.
[42:00] Speaker 1: Because it's hard to have fun preparing to do it
[42:04] Speaker 1: and sitting down to do it and then doing it.
[42:08] Speaker 1: And so that is, But what is your actual writing process?
[42:12] Speaker 1: Do you actually get down and type out? Like are
[42:14] Speaker 1: you on the go? Like I'm curious about that.
[42:17] Speaker 3: So for so for different things like so for the
[42:20] Speaker 3: writer's rooms, that's just like sitting in a room. But
[42:22] Speaker 3: I think the the hard thing is coming up with
[42:26] Speaker 3: things that are legitimately funny over and over again, and
[42:29] Speaker 3: like the joke writing, Like on the MINDI Project League,
[42:32] Speaker 3: we had Tracy Wigfield, Matt Warburton, Blane Fisher, we had
[42:36] Speaker 3: a lot of like Eike and Dave, like, we had
[42:38] Speaker 3: a lot of really great joke writers. But like that
[42:41] Speaker 3: thing of like it's just so hard to come up
[42:44] Speaker 3: with that many jokes. It just takes a lot of effort.
[42:47] Speaker 3: And that's the thing with like the comedy shows. Like
[42:48] Speaker 3: so when I watch he did Rivalry or off Campus,
[42:52] Speaker 3: I'm naming a lot of sexy shows. But like when
[42:55] Speaker 3: I when I see those ones, I'm like, I don't
[42:57] Speaker 3: think it's easy. I think there's like other challenges to
[43:00] Speaker 3: doing sexy hour longs, but like I long to have
[43:03] Speaker 3: it not be that the thing that's keeping you from
[43:05] Speaker 3: going home or having a joke writing, like.
[43:09] Speaker 1: There is tension.
[43:12] Speaker 2: Yes, car and go home, get my.
[43:14] Speaker 1: Car and go home.
[43:15] Speaker 2: So I.
[43:17] Speaker 3: I mean you guys, like first of all, hosting funny
[43:19] Speaker 3: award shows, doing ESNL, Like with you guys, I mean
[43:22] Speaker 3: you must face this with your guys as writers. It's
[43:25] Speaker 3: just but it's it is the most fun, but it's
[43:28] Speaker 3: it is exhausting now writing for when I write my essays,
[43:32] Speaker 3: that's challenging. All I'm doing is complaining, Like these are
[43:35] Speaker 3: great jobs. I want to just acknowledge you.
[43:37] Speaker 1: But I think that the hard thing is when you
[43:41] Speaker 1: know that their fun jobs and yet you still like
[43:44] Speaker 1: your brain is like it's it's decided. It's works, and
[43:47] Speaker 1: so then you have to, I guess, reframe the mentality
[43:50] Speaker 1: to be like I am lucky to make I'm lucky, Yes,
[43:52] Speaker 1: but it's still it's very challenging to people don't understand.
[43:58] Speaker 1: It's like math, you know.
[44:00] Speaker 3: And so I think when I'm when I'm writing my essays,
[44:02] Speaker 3: then it's a thing where I'm alone at my house
[44:04] Speaker 3: and I feel like we've all read the celebrity essays
[44:07] Speaker 3: where you can just tell the person is just doing
[44:09] Speaker 3: it because someone paid them a lot of money, and
[44:11] Speaker 3: it's just sort of boring. And so I think, like,
[44:14] Speaker 3: then you see a really good version of it, like
[44:16] Speaker 3: bossy Pants, and that thing is riddled with jokes like
[44:18] Speaker 3: Tina clearly spent so long making sure that was so
[44:22] Speaker 3: so funny, and I think, like, so I that's those
[44:26] Speaker 3: are It's just hard, but it's it's obviously worth it.
[44:29] Speaker 2: But speaking of your first again, speaking of your essay books,
[44:33] Speaker 2: you did also predict another thing in addition to the
[44:35] Speaker 2: Olivia Coleman win Beyonce would release a country album.
[44:40] Speaker 1: Did I say that I said that in your first
[44:42] Speaker 1: fucking book?
[44:42] Speaker 2: Mindy, Wait, you know what's funny?
[44:44] Speaker 3: I know that I said there was going to be
[44:45] Speaker 3: like a kool Aid movie. And then that was a runner.
[44:48] Speaker 3: That was the runner in the studio.
[44:50] Speaker 2: Oh wow, see wait, what's going on with you?
[44:53] Speaker 3: Am I? Yes, that's the show to.
[45:00] Speaker 1: The title show.
[45:03] Speaker 3: Would you produce?
[45:05] Speaker 1: Its just a woman. I think we're coming up with
[45:08] Speaker 1: a lot of bad stuff across meeting.
[45:11] Speaker 3: That would be like a good CBS show. Like I'm like,
[45:16] Speaker 3: I'm a single mom in my forties trying to date,
[45:19] Speaker 3: see if there's dating, and then like I'm in the
[45:22] Speaker 3: middle of a date with Scott Speedman and I'm like, wait, wait,
[45:26] Speaker 3: I see something coming.
[45:28] Speaker 1: Mandy, You're going to sell a show right now if
[45:30] Speaker 1: you're not careful and you hate writing.
[45:33] Speaker 3: But I would like working on hot Indian astro Dog.
[45:36] Speaker 1: I know, like like logul Is.
[45:39] Speaker 2: It's like Amy Poor has page in Hannah. Now it's like,
[45:42] Speaker 2: I know, you just adopt us like in that.
[45:45] Speaker 3: Well, you guys came up with this. I would be
[45:46] Speaker 3: your page in Hannah like you guys, Amy, You're yes,
[45:52] Speaker 3: you're the producer.
[45:53] Speaker 1: Great, we can do that.
[45:54] Speaker 3: You're a video village coming in to tell me love it?
[45:57] Speaker 1: I love only get chairs with our names. Oh I
[46:00] Speaker 1: love that. Oh yeah, this is a bizarre question. But
[46:06] Speaker 1: I know my answer. I went to school for writing.
[46:09] Speaker 1: Actually I went to ny U Tician. I went just
[46:11] Speaker 1: went back into the commencement speech for the dramatic writing.
[46:14] Speaker 3: Are you kidding?
[46:15] Speaker 1: Yeah? It was a really moving emotional.
[46:18] Speaker 3: But first of all, huge that is talk about writing
[46:21] Speaker 3: being hard. Writing a commencement speech is at the very top,
[46:26] Speaker 3: because that shit's got to be very funny, like very grabby,
[46:29] Speaker 3: and it was for writers, and yes, and it has
[46:31] Speaker 3: to be like emotional, and you have to have some
[46:33] Speaker 3: kind of original message that no one has ever said
[46:36] Speaker 3: that they that just can't be like be true to
[46:38] Speaker 3: yourself or take risks or some shit like.
[46:40] Speaker 1: No, I really wanted to tell the truth. And I
[46:43] Speaker 1: was like, listen, like I think that when you were
[46:46] Speaker 1: a writer right now, when you're facing this industry, it
[46:48] Speaker 1: would be really hard to get demoralized. And also, all
[46:50] Speaker 1: of the parents are there who have just spent and
[46:52] Speaker 1: let me say this clearly, four hundred thousand dollars on
[46:55] Speaker 1: their kids education. Oh my god, all right, and they're thinking,
[46:59] Speaker 1: you know, out what the hell, like, what's gonna happen
[47:01] Speaker 1: to my kid? In fact, a lot of them parents
[47:03] Speaker 1: came up and they were like it's really nice to
[47:05] Speaker 1: see someone that was successful in the program come back
[47:08] Speaker 1: like thank you for doing this. And I was just like, listen,
[47:11] Speaker 1: you didn't waste your money because they have a community
[47:14] Speaker 1: and that is so important and so rare just to
[47:17] Speaker 1: have a bunch of people around that you know, that
[47:19] Speaker 1: are also doing I mean, that was us that gave
[47:22] Speaker 1: us everything. Like we're still in touch with people from
[47:25] Speaker 1: back then. I still see people, you know, thriving in
[47:28] Speaker 1: the business, like in many different ways. And what I
[47:31] Speaker 1: said to them was, don't be afraid of taking different forms,
[47:36] Speaker 1: like you might not it might not be the best
[47:38] Speaker 1: idea for you to move to LA right now and
[47:40] Speaker 1: like hit the mail room or something you might it
[47:43] Speaker 1: might be you taking you know again, this is my
[47:46] Speaker 1: thoughts popping out, but an improv class or you know,
[47:49] Speaker 1: or trying something new or yes, starting a podcast or
[47:53] Speaker 1: just you have to support each other in those forms.
[47:56] Speaker 1: But I was looking out at them and I was
[47:57] Speaker 1: like here they are, like with their specscripts in hand
[48:01] Speaker 1: and everything. And it got me thinking about what made
[48:05] Speaker 1: me decide I wanted to be a writer. And I
[48:08] Speaker 1: wonder when that moment was for you, like not only
[48:11] Speaker 1: just when you decided to become a writer. But when
[48:15] Speaker 1: you knew that was a thing.
[48:17] Speaker 3: Well, I was. I first want to react to the speech,
[48:19] Speaker 3: which was that must have been so reassuring for the
[48:22] Speaker 3: parents and for the kids there who can not only
[48:26] Speaker 3: not only hear that from you, but to be like,
[48:28] Speaker 3: no about your relationship with Bowen and how you guys
[48:30] Speaker 3: met and how this could be them, and like that
[48:33] Speaker 3: must have been so reassuring for like the parents and
[48:36] Speaker 3: men who put in this a massive investment. I can't
[48:39] Speaker 3: wait to google this now.
[48:40] Speaker 1: I basically made the speech about our friend Sudi because
[48:43] Speaker 1: we met at the program Sudie Green, and she went.
[48:45] Speaker 3: On it's amazing. Yeah.
[48:47] Speaker 1: Then she went on to become a supervising writer at
[48:50] Speaker 1: SNL wrote on the Cultural Awards with us. We've worked
[48:53] Speaker 1: on shows like I Love That for You Together that
[48:55] Speaker 1: she wrote for and I was on. But I was
[48:57] Speaker 1: telling them, I was like, you know these people that
[49:00] Speaker 1: you're surrounded by that you think our special really are,
[49:03] Speaker 1: so make it about that, and you know she just
[49:05] Speaker 1: had a baby, and it's just she's still our close,
[49:09] Speaker 1: close friend from all the way back there. So just
[49:11] Speaker 1: trying to let them know, like these are real connections
[49:14] Speaker 1: in this moment, and it's important because there are not
[49:18] Speaker 1: a lot of resources out there, right, Yeah, but you
[49:21] Speaker 1: have each other and I think that that's.
[49:23] Speaker 3: Well, and that's so important when you feel like you
[49:25] Speaker 3: don't have access, like I remember so much like being
[49:28] Speaker 3: twenty one, and there's other people you see out there
[49:31] Speaker 3: and their parents have this connection and they have this
[49:33] Speaker 3: and that, and you're like, I don't have access, but
[49:35] Speaker 3: you're like, Okay. It must have been reassuring for those
[49:37] Speaker 3: people to be like, well, we have access to our
[49:38] Speaker 3: other friends that we believe in and together we can
[49:41] Speaker 3: like build a foundation and create something that's so nice.
[49:46] Speaker 3: And to answer what was your question?
[49:48] Speaker 1: Because I remember I didn't really realize that I could
[49:51] Speaker 1: do that as a career till I was watching Lost
[49:53] Speaker 1: one day. What and I was watching It was the
[49:56] Speaker 1: sixth episode of the first first season of Lost. House
[49:58] Speaker 1: of the Rising Sun. It was Sun's flashback episode where
[50:03] Speaker 1: you found out she has been learning how to speak
[50:04] Speaker 1: English so she can leave Gin. And I am sobbing
[50:08] Speaker 1: at the end of it because there's this flashback where
[50:10] Speaker 1: she's walking towards this black car that's going to drive
[50:13] Speaker 1: her away, and she turns around and Jin holds up
[50:16] Speaker 1: like her favorite flower and orchid, and she goes back
[50:18] Speaker 1: to him, and then it cuts to them on the
[50:20] Speaker 1: beach and you realize that decision has cost her.
[50:22] Speaker 3: You know, Oh my god, I'm getting chills.
[50:24] Speaker 1: And I was sobbing and the score was going and
[50:27] Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. And then it cut
[50:28] Speaker 1: to the credits and it said written by someone, and
[50:31] Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I want to do that.
[50:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[50:34] Speaker 1: I was like, I want to do that. I have
[50:36] Speaker 1: to I want to write this. Oh. And then it
[50:38] Speaker 1: clicked for me. I was like wow, and I was
[50:39] Speaker 1: so exciting. I was like, I know what I want
[50:41] Speaker 1: to do. And I wonder when you had that moment
[50:44] Speaker 1: or if that moment appeared ever. I guess it's another
[50:47] Speaker 1: form of the culture question is but specific to you.
[50:51] Speaker 3: So we talked earlier about how we just will look
[50:55] Speaker 3: at credits and to me, I was not like a snob,
[50:59] Speaker 3: like I would watch like whatever my parents would let
[51:01] Speaker 3: me watch. So like I remember, at that time, it
[51:03] Speaker 3: was really just like what was on, Like I looked
[51:06] Speaker 3: like The X Files. I liked you guys. I don't
[51:08] Speaker 3: know if you know Doctor Katz, like that was a
[51:11] Speaker 3: Comedy Central show. Jonathan Katz, the stand up oh a
[51:14] Speaker 3: doctor and he played a therapist in all these different
[51:17] Speaker 3: standard It was like one of those early Comedy Central
[51:18] Speaker 3: animated shows Swiggle Vision. Oh cool, So that was But
[51:23] Speaker 3: I would just look at and then I mean, I
[51:26] Speaker 3: don't even know if you guys were watching TV, but
[51:28] Speaker 3: Comedy Central would have like Premium Blend, yeah, and they
[51:32] Speaker 3: would do like you would turn if you were sick
[51:34] Speaker 3: at home, you would turn on the TV, and like
[51:35] Speaker 3: they would have these random things where just they would
[51:37] Speaker 3: do like three minute clips of lots of different stand ups.
[51:39] Speaker 3: You'd be like Judy Gold and Judy Gold who's in
[51:43] Speaker 3: not suitable for work and is an icon but and
[51:46] Speaker 3: Emo Phillips and those kinds of things. So to me,
[51:49] Speaker 3: it was a mix of just that like nineteen eighty
[51:53] Speaker 3: nine to nineteen ninety three network television and like a
[51:57] Speaker 3: little bit of Comedy Central just like watching like Kids
[52:00] Speaker 3: in the Hall ye oh, huge, huge, huge, And what
[52:03] Speaker 3: they were doing was so boundary, pushing and ahead of
[52:06] Speaker 3: its time. So I think that I don't know if
[52:08] Speaker 3: that totally answers through question, but like I was watching
[52:11] Speaker 3: everything like Wings on NBC, like just you know anything,
[52:17] Speaker 3: what was the.
[52:17] Speaker 2: Thing that compelled you to write like that and math
[52:20] Speaker 2: like like, well, like how did that process like because
[52:22] Speaker 2: because remind me because it was all in the book, right.
[52:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, So I books my So I moved out to
[52:29] Speaker 3: New York with my best friend Jocelyn and our other
[52:31] Speaker 3: best friend Brenda, had graduated a year before I sat Dartmouth,
[52:35] Speaker 3: and so that was we moved out in August of
[52:38] Speaker 3: two thousand and one and we're just lettling in when
[52:40] Speaker 3: nine wow. And so that period of time there was
[52:45] Speaker 3: not a lot of like just everything kind of stopped,
[52:48] Speaker 3: like there wasn't a lot of like hiring even getting
[52:50] Speaker 3: jobs as like waiters and waitress. It was just hard
[52:52] Speaker 3: because everything kind of came where were you living in
[52:54] Speaker 3: New York and Winsor Terrace. So we lived in a
[52:57] Speaker 3: railroad department in Winsor Terrists, the three of us, and
[52:59] Speaker 3: so there was just a lot of time when we
[53:01] Speaker 3: were just looking for any kind of job. And that's
[53:04] Speaker 3: when I applied to be a page at NBC and
[53:07] Speaker 3: I thought it was like a sure thing and didn't
[53:09] Speaker 3: even get like an interview for that, which was at
[53:13] Speaker 3: the time because I was at Dartmouth, which was I
[53:16] Speaker 3: loved Dartmouth, but it wasn't at that time known for
[53:19] Speaker 3: like its arts. Like I ruled that fucking school, like
[53:21] Speaker 3: there was the only one interested in doing like sketch
[53:23] Speaker 3: comedy and little comedy plays. And I had like a
[53:26] Speaker 3: powerful click of like bitchy people in the comedy department
[53:29] Speaker 3: and the drama department. And then I came out and
[53:34] Speaker 3: it was that kind of classic root awakening where like
[53:36] Speaker 3: no one cared at all, and so I didn't get
[53:39] Speaker 3: that job, and I was literally like this, I'm like
[53:42] Speaker 3: shoe in for this job. Yeah, And so then I
[53:46] Speaker 3: just was babysitting and I so I was babysitting in
[53:51] Speaker 3: the evenings and my best friend Brenda was substitute teaching
[53:55] Speaker 3: in Brooklyn during the days, but we would have this
[53:57] Speaker 3: like one hour of free time before I left a
[54:01] Speaker 3: babysit that she came home and we started tinkering around.
[54:04] Speaker 3: We kind of like neither of us were like UCB people,
[54:07] Speaker 3: but we would kind of like be improvising the characters
[54:10] Speaker 3: of Matt Damon and Ben Afflecks. We just thought they
[54:12] Speaker 3: were so they loomed so large in culture that we
[54:15] Speaker 3: would just be doing impressions of them. And then I
[54:17] Speaker 3: think it just occurred to us, like what if we
[54:19] Speaker 3: did like more of a long form thing where it
[54:22] Speaker 3: was more about a story about their actual relationship, and
[54:26] Speaker 3: what are the kind of like this is we didn't
[54:28] Speaker 3: know completely this is the quintessential parasocial like just of
[54:31] Speaker 3: course just and then it then became like not about
[54:35] Speaker 3: the actual actors anymore, but the nature of friendship in
[54:39] Speaker 3: creativity and competition and when one person is perceived being ahead.
[54:44] Speaker 3: And at that time, I think we kind of knew
[54:46] Speaker 3: that Matt Damon was like a little bit more of
[54:49] Speaker 3: like the serious actor type, and Ben Affleck was handsome
[54:52] Speaker 3: but like maybe not considered in the same category. He
[54:55] Speaker 3: was also very famous, and so we invented this dynamic
[54:58] Speaker 3: of what it was like when they were twenty one
[55:01] Speaker 3: and no one knew who they were before they wrote
[55:03] Speaker 3: the script for Goodle Hunting. And I think it we
[55:06] Speaker 3: knew Brenda and I like we obviously had our own
[55:09] Speaker 3: friendship and a lot of like our own feelings about
[55:13] Speaker 3: that process, which is, as you guys know, like it's
[55:16] Speaker 3: complex and it can be like so wonderful that you
[55:19] Speaker 3: are going through this with your best friend, but there
[55:21] Speaker 3: is the ugly side of it, and there's you know
[55:24] Speaker 3: when one person sy's just ahead and then the other
[55:26] Speaker 3: person stalls out and then that person you know. So
[55:29] Speaker 3: that's what the play was about. I got to play
[55:33] Speaker 3: Ben Affleck, which was one of the most fun roles
[55:35] Speaker 3: of my life, and I hope I can come back
[55:37] Speaker 3: and play this part. And we did get a face
[55:40] Speaker 3: that I think I would I have like lit. I
[55:43] Speaker 3: just all I want is for someone to be like,
[55:46] Speaker 3: for this charity, would you redo it or something? Because
[55:49] Speaker 3: I really Yeah, for like ten years it was just
[55:52] Speaker 3: Ben Affleck and Kelly Kapor. Those are the only two
[55:54] Speaker 3: roles I have played, and they were so different, but
[55:57] Speaker 3: that was that's why we did it. We also did
[56:00] Speaker 3: it because it's like we would I wasn't in a union,
[56:03] Speaker 3: We couldn't like audition in any real way for things.
[56:05] Speaker 3: So the Fringe Festival, which is was incredible, was like
[56:07] Speaker 3: the only way that we could do anything.
[56:09] Speaker 1: Did you do it in Edinburgh?
[56:11] Speaker 3: No, the New York French, the New York Fringe, Yeah.
[56:14] Speaker 2: I see, like for you like that initial writing process
[56:17] Speaker 2: was riffing. Yes, ultimately what it is what it is?
[56:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeahs And that's sort of what a writer's room.
[56:26] Speaker 3: I wouldn't know this at the time. That's what a
[56:27] Speaker 3: writer's room was ended up being like, Yeah, that's why
[56:30] Speaker 3: it was so fun when we would do the mini
[56:32] Speaker 3: project and I Baron Holtz was in the writer's room
[56:35] Speaker 3: and then also on set, because it felt like Matt
[56:38] Speaker 3: and Ben really prepared me for that experience of like, hey,
[56:41] Speaker 3: let's like riff in character.
[56:44] Speaker 2: So fun God, I love that man you are.
[56:47] Speaker 3: Has he been on this.
[56:48] Speaker 1: No he's not, but I was. We were actually just
[56:50] Speaker 1: watching it and I was telling Fraser we met once
[56:53] Speaker 1: on History of the World and he is such a
[56:56] Speaker 1: nice guy and he's so funny, and he's so good
[56:59] Speaker 1: on the studio and I've only heard you ever say
[57:03] Speaker 1: that he's so lovely.
[57:04] Speaker 2: We've been rounded a handful of times.
[57:05] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's he's the most popular person in Hollywood.
[57:09] Speaker 1: It's like a Seth Meyers vibe where everyone kind of
[57:11] Speaker 1: says positive things.
[57:12] Speaker 3: Everyone says positive things, and he's like, it's like him, Seth,
[57:17] Speaker 3: I agree, he's so nice. Octavia Spencer of course, Oh,
[57:21] Speaker 3: I haven't had the pleasure.
[57:22] Speaker 2: I'm not either, But.
[57:23] Speaker 1: She's excited from ma too. She is, I mean ma
[57:27] Speaker 1: is he cackles, said Missy Pyle getting run over by
[57:30] Speaker 1: that car.
[57:31] Speaker 3: It's it's such a good movie, and that's a great moment.
[57:34] Speaker 2: She runs a rever and goes fucking count turns on
[57:38] Speaker 2: the radio September by Earth Wind and Fire. It's so
[57:42] Speaker 2: it kills someone so quickly. I said that person had
[57:45] Speaker 2: a full life. And then playing earth Wind and Fire.
[57:48] Speaker 2: I mean that's cinema.
[57:50] Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, that's a great, great movie.
[57:52] Speaker 1: I love when any horror movie or movie like that
[57:55] Speaker 1: that like kills characters as if they've had no life
[57:57] Speaker 1: before the moment they've had on things like are you all?
[58:01] Speaker 1: It's it's my favorite thing when they pretend they've they've
[58:05] Speaker 1: got no friends, family, anyone that would carry them just disposed.
[58:08] Speaker 1: Kate Mara in the subway in House of Cards headfirst.
[58:12] Speaker 3: That was a huge moment in my scream in.
[58:15] Speaker 1: My bad Yeah, that was crazy.
[58:17] Speaker 3: It was good.
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[58:25] Speaker 1: I'd say Eminem's are one of those truly iconic snacks.
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[58:35] Speaker 1: I mean come on, what's not to love about Eminem's
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[58:44] Speaker 2: Eminem's continues to be that girl. The crunch is unexpected
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[59:06] Speaker 1: And I'm already thinking that'd be great to have on
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[59:18] Speaker 1: Now. I'm gonna try one right now. Amazing pop pop.
[59:23] Speaker 1: I really do like them. Fraser's favorite person is you mine?
[59:28] Speaker 1: Just tell Kate Hudson was tell Kate Hudson she has
[59:31] Speaker 1: a home in my heart.
[59:34] Speaker 3: She would she would die for. I mean to be
[59:36] Speaker 3: on this show for you.
[59:39] Speaker 2: This show is Matt's Kate Hudson impression.
[59:41] Speaker 3: Which is Kate Hudson has she never done that?
[59:43] Speaker 1: No, we we know she's a Cultural Award nominee. You
[59:46] Speaker 1: know this year best way to be whilst flirting, just
[59:50] Speaker 1: be Kate Hudson.
[59:51] Speaker 3: She's a real flirt.
[59:53] Speaker 1: She's kind of like, this is my impression of her. What,
[59:56] Speaker 1: what's the big deal? Who cares? That's the s into her?
[1:00:00] Speaker 1: Like like smoking weed in high school. We're not going
[1:00:03] Speaker 1: to get caught.
[1:00:04] Speaker 2: What my mom's goldie.
[1:00:06] Speaker 1: My mom's goldie. You're gonna get caught. Fuck off? You
[1:00:10] Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, sort of like a glass
[1:00:13] Speaker 1: and a half of wine in energy.
[1:00:16] Speaker 3: Yes, this is You've nailed it. She's really like that.
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: I love it. I feel her through the screen. Whenever
[1:00:21] Speaker 1: she's in a film, I see myself on screen. I'm
[1:00:25] Speaker 1: not kidding, I am.
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: I'm very surprised, but I also like, I I love this,
[1:00:30] Speaker 3: and I guess I guess maybe it's not maybe I'm
[1:00:36] Speaker 3: not that you see yourself in her when she's on screen.
[1:00:41] Speaker 3: I guess I wouldn't have thought of that.
[1:00:42] Speaker 1: There's something about like her whole vibe where I'm just like,
[1:00:48] Speaker 1: I just get so I'm so happy every time I
[1:00:50] Speaker 1: see her.
[1:00:51] Speaker 3: She's the composite of uptight when I'm around her, there's
[1:00:55] Speaker 3: nothing and like, you know, this is a woman who
[1:00:57] Speaker 3: like and this is why I really love Kate. She
[1:00:59] Speaker 3: came up been like the aughts in Hollywood. Yeah, this
[1:01:03] Speaker 3: isn't like this was. It was not like a cool
[1:01:06] Speaker 3: time to be like a leading lady, you know, in
[1:01:09] Speaker 3: that time. And she's seen some I'm sure some ugly
[1:01:11] Speaker 3: ship by the way, She's never told me this, but
[1:01:13] Speaker 3: like on the set, like she just has an old
[1:01:15] Speaker 3: school vibe where she's like it's a thing where like
[1:01:18] Speaker 3: when we're on set she doesn't like someone, she just
[1:01:21] Speaker 3: does the thing where she's like it's fine. Like she's
[1:01:24] Speaker 3: not asking me to talk to hr. She's just going
[1:01:27] Speaker 3: home to talk to her husband Danny and just being
[1:01:29] Speaker 3: like talking shit about them. It's like, yeah school, Yeah,
[1:01:31] Speaker 3: she just doesn't.
[1:01:32] Speaker 1: It's like, I bet her ship talk is a plus.
[1:01:36] Speaker 3: The shit talk is really good.
[1:01:37] Speaker 1: Oh, it's so good. She has a lot of around.
[1:01:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, she stories from like like before nine to eleven. Yeah,
[1:01:43] Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like just famous people she
[1:01:45] Speaker 3: met on a let.
[1:01:46] Speaker 1: Me tell you what I saw at the Chateau in
[1:01:48] Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, yeah, it was gross.
[1:01:51] Speaker 3: Yes, early Brad Pitt's story. It's just like she's a
[1:01:54] Speaker 3: lot of to be hot in the nineties in Hollywood.
[1:01:58] Speaker 1: It's so tough.
[1:01:59] Speaker 3: I know, it was nice. It was nice.
[1:02:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: You know what's coming back to me, is you saying
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: on Letterman that you want to sit courtside at a
[1:02:07] Speaker 2: basketball game because you want a player to fall on you.
[1:02:11] Speaker 3: Say that.
[1:02:12] Speaker 2: I absolutely said that he's got the bibli got the
[1:02:16] Speaker 2: vocal stems down on.
[1:02:19] Speaker 1: Court side.
[1:02:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I've had I've never had someone fall on me.
[1:02:24] Speaker 1: With a cool Lakers jersey because I love sports, kind
[1:02:29] Speaker 1: of sporty.
[1:02:30] Speaker 3: No, I do you genuinely like basketball? And I love
[1:02:33] Speaker 3: the Lakers. I love Genie Bussuh. She was one of
[1:02:36] Speaker 3: the producers on Running Point. But no one has ever
[1:02:39] Speaker 3: fallen on me before. You know, it's nice about it
[1:02:42] Speaker 3: because when they fall on you, they have to be like,
[1:02:43] Speaker 3: oh sorry, madame, and they have to pick you up
[1:02:45] Speaker 3: and make sure that you're okay.
[1:02:47] Speaker 2: That'd be sexy if that's what you know, not like
[1:02:49] Speaker 2: you you sorry, madam. I mean you know this is
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: I'm going to try to recreate this can because they
[1:02:59] Speaker 2: take a lot of like the Worldwide pants stuff down.
[1:03:01] Speaker 2: I don't know why. It's like just not on YouTube.
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: Take it down a lot.
[1:03:04] Speaker 2: You go, yeah, I just want to go say quotes
[1:03:07] Speaker 2: Sat Patty basketball game. And then Letterman goes, that's great,
[1:03:09] Speaker 2: and then a beat and you go, I just want
[1:03:12] Speaker 2: wanted them to fall on me.
[1:03:13] Speaker 1: Huge laugh from.
[1:03:14] Speaker 3: The audience, Like what was his reaction?
[1:03:20] Speaker 2: This is what Tina was saying, like, yeah, he, well
[1:03:22] Speaker 2: you remember this, like he would not do the late
[1:03:24] Speaker 2: night show hosting of like coming to say hi to
[1:03:26] Speaker 2: you before you were on stage. She wanted it to
[1:03:28] Speaker 2: be like the first interaction you have to be out
[1:03:31] Speaker 2: on stage at the Absolvent Theater, which is terrifying. Yeah
[1:03:34] Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I can't like I
[1:03:36] Speaker 2: need the host to come and say hi to me first.
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: I feel like, what what was.
[1:03:39] Speaker 2: So nice about uh? Like this perfect ascent of Mindy
[1:03:45] Speaker 2: Kaling was that I keep preferring you're in the third person,
[1:03:47] Speaker 2: and I'm sure I love it.
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: It makes me feel really famous and important. I really
[1:03:51] Speaker 3: like it.
[1:03:51] Speaker 2: I feel like you plugged in so neatly and beautifully.
[1:03:56] Speaker 2: It just clicked, like you clicking into like your sort
[1:04:00] Speaker 2: of like your renown and your whatever notoriety. Just like
[1:04:05] Speaker 2: it just it just made so much sense that you
[1:04:07] Speaker 2: became who you are, you know what I mean, does
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: this make sense?
[1:04:10] Speaker 3: It's it's I really it's I really appreciate it because
[1:04:14] Speaker 3: that time when I was on the MINDI Project, I
[1:04:17] Speaker 3: think times were a little bit different, and you know,
[1:04:20] Speaker 3: obviously going back there were things that I would do differently,
[1:04:23] Speaker 3: but I'm I'm happy that it had some impact. You know,
[1:04:27] Speaker 3: the show was never a hit. We were always waiting
[1:04:29] Speaker 3: with baited breath to see if we're gonna get picked up.
[1:04:31] Speaker 1: It felt like that every year, every.
[1:04:32] Speaker 3: Year that we got canceled. Then it went to Hulu,
[1:04:34] Speaker 3: which at the time it was just like that show
[1:04:37] Speaker 3: about the Ghost, Like it was like there was a
[1:04:39] Speaker 3: show about there was a show about a ghost. And
[1:04:45] Speaker 3: then I remember BJ, well he would he would corroborate this.
[1:04:49] Speaker 3: I remember it was like BJ, I think we're going
[1:04:51] Speaker 3: to go to Hulu and he's like, I don't what
[1:04:52] Speaker 3: even is that he just let it. He's like, maybe
[1:04:55] Speaker 3: it's classier to just like let it die. It's going
[1:04:57] Speaker 3: on to this other thing, and that would have been
[1:05:00] Speaker 3: the classio thing. But I was like, I gotta just
[1:05:01] Speaker 3: keep doing this, like I don't know what my life
[1:05:04] Speaker 3: is if I have to say, I didn't want it,
[1:05:06] Speaker 3: like them to win by canceling it. So we did it,
[1:05:09] Speaker 3: and like you know, when we went and all of
[1:05:12] Speaker 3: the writers stayed and you know, and it was that
[1:05:14] Speaker 3: was such a huge risk, but it never felt like
[1:05:18] Speaker 3: it was a success during it. It was always like a
[1:05:20] Speaker 3: slog and there was always like endless I mean, I
[1:05:23] Speaker 3: don't know Bowen if you feel this way, but like
[1:05:25] Speaker 3: there's always endless scrutiny about like representation and some of it,
[1:05:29] Speaker 3: some of it looking back in it, I was like, oh,
[1:05:31] Speaker 3: that that was good. I should have done out that differently.
[1:05:33] Speaker 3: And then some of it was like why are you
[1:05:35] Speaker 3: picking on me again? Like if it wasn't my appearance,
[1:05:39] Speaker 3: then it was like the way that the show was
[1:05:41] Speaker 3: casting and I'm complaining about it all now. And some
[1:05:43] Speaker 3: of it was really valid, but it was just a
[1:05:45] Speaker 3: different time. So I it's so grat I've sounds so needy,
[1:05:48] Speaker 3: but it's so nice to hear that, you guys, it
[1:05:51] Speaker 3: made an impact on you guys. Also, there was like
[1:05:54] Speaker 3: I mean, we had some funny guest stars, like yeah,
[1:05:57] Speaker 3: Wigg was on the show, George Appeals, even Cold Beert,
[1:06:02] Speaker 3: I mean, if it had been on now, for sure
[1:06:04] Speaker 3: you guys would have gotten a call to play.
[1:06:06] Speaker 1: That's kind you know, you'd think we'd get these calls.
[1:06:10] Speaker 3: I think we would get a call and then Morgan
[1:06:13] Speaker 3: would be like, I think he's married, and no, no, no,
[1:06:17] Speaker 3: Matt's not married, he doesn't have another family, and then
[1:06:19] Speaker 3: like then we'd meet your other family exactly.
[1:06:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, you went through child's and tribulations. We just watched
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: you break up with Brian Greenberg.
[1:06:28] Speaker 3: Ryan Greenberg, what is sweet?
[1:06:30] Speaker 1: What a sweet heart? The husband of Jamie Chong. Yes,
[1:06:33] Speaker 1: of course Real World's Jamie Chung. I first knew Jamie Chong.
[1:06:38] Speaker 2: They're so beautiful.
[1:06:40] Speaker 3: Yes, they are great looking couple, and they know how
[1:06:43] Speaker 3: to vacation.
[1:06:44] Speaker 1: Do they vacation? Well?
[1:06:46] Speaker 3: I feel like I when I'm on their Instagram, I
[1:06:49] Speaker 3: see them on vacation a lot, which is not to
[1:06:51] Speaker 3: say they don't work.
[1:06:51] Speaker 1: No, no, of course, what's your dream vacation? And remember
[1:06:55] Speaker 1: phrasers here he can make it with map.
[1:06:57] Speaker 3: I mean some kind of like I'm on something and
[1:07:02] Speaker 3: I'm on Gary Yara something in a place, a beach
[1:07:08] Speaker 3: like place.
[1:07:09] Speaker 1: He's he's, he's, he's he's miss making mental notes Turks
[1:07:11] Speaker 1: and Kekos.
[1:07:12] Speaker 2: Which one is that, I'm I'm on Geary, I'm in Yara.
[1:07:15] Speaker 1: I'm on what where? What?
[1:07:16] Speaker 3: He just looked at you, like, how could you say Geary?
[1:07:21] Speaker 3: I know, how could you possibly?
[1:07:23] Speaker 2: I'm Yara Turk and Kekos. I know that for a
[1:07:25] Speaker 2: fact because they went there between writing for Schmiga Dune
[1:07:29] Speaker 2: and then getting moved to cast Rest now and I
[1:07:31] Speaker 2: was like, I need a week to myself. What is it.
[1:07:37] Speaker 3: You went there for a week. Do you come from money,
[1:07:40] Speaker 3: big time money?
[1:07:41] Speaker 1: No?
[1:07:41] Speaker 2: My dad was a farmer on a canola farm in
[1:07:44] Speaker 2: Inner Mongolia.
[1:07:45] Speaker 3: Did he did he like own the farm?
[1:07:46] Speaker 2: No?
[1:07:48] Speaker 1: And how do I'm sorry, are you how do you
[1:07:50] Speaker 1: explain the theater in your home? Growing up?
[1:07:52] Speaker 2: The theater?
[1:07:54] Speaker 1: It was not growing up cold, it was later.
[1:07:57] Speaker 3: I'm asking you so you can think when she's like,
[1:08:01] Speaker 3: of course, of course we were but simple people and
[1:08:03] Speaker 3: I understand, and you're David back in big like, be honest, honest,
[1:08:07] Speaker 3: be honest, be honest. Okay, she says, we had two
[1:08:12] Speaker 3: rolls royces. This is like you being like my dad
[1:08:15] Speaker 3: was a farmer.
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: He was, he was, We were pretty squarely middle class.
[1:08:23] Speaker 2: And then as soon as they went to college on
[1:08:26] Speaker 2: scholarship with financial aid, and all the bells and whistles,
[1:08:30] Speaker 2: my parents decide to move into a house where they
[1:08:32] Speaker 2: were like, we're empty nesters. Now we're going to do
[1:08:35] Speaker 2: all these like crazy pop up now, We're gonna pop
[1:08:38] Speaker 2: up now. And they built a home theater that we
[1:08:40] Speaker 2: would then go to. So in the time that Matt
[1:08:42] Speaker 2: knew me, which was post college or college forward, he
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: was like, well, Bowen's rich because he grew up in
[1:08:47] Speaker 2: it with a home theater.
[1:08:48] Speaker 1: I just knew. He was living off campus with his
[1:08:50] Speaker 1: sister and they had a home theater, and we were
[1:08:53] Speaker 1: at NYU where everyone was rich. The first friend I made,
[1:08:56] Speaker 1: she goes, come over my apartment. I go, great, what's
[1:08:58] Speaker 1: the address? Asked replace seven aster number. I'm in the hotel.
[1:09:05] Speaker 1: I get in the hotel, I get in the elevator.
[1:09:07] Speaker 1: Who comes in Daniel Radcliffe.
[1:09:10] Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Hi that's NYU right.
[1:09:13] Speaker 1: You can ever see that's just crazy.
[1:09:16] Speaker 3: So you It was confusing though, because you had a
[1:09:18] Speaker 3: home theater, but you were.
[1:09:20] Speaker 2: And I would cop to being wealthy if I was.
[1:09:25] Speaker 2: I was just irresponsible with my money and I was
[1:09:27] Speaker 2: like I was going crazy finishing my first season at
[1:09:30] Speaker 2: SNL shooting one season of this Comedy Central show that
[1:09:33] Speaker 2: you know, I thought was like the biggest deal. I
[1:09:36] Speaker 2: had one week off in my entire summer.
[1:09:38] Speaker 1: Was that the Jung Laser show.
[1:09:39] Speaker 2: No, No, No, It was a roached for Schmi And then
[1:09:41] Speaker 2: we shot No More from Queens Eaves on one. Yeah,
[1:09:44] Speaker 2: and I had one week off before SNL would start again,
[1:09:47] Speaker 2: and I was suddenly uncast and it was all this
[1:09:49] Speaker 2: crazy whatever like yeah, the commotion around it, and then
[1:09:54] Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to book myself the craziest
[1:09:58] Speaker 2: billionaire vacation possible.
[1:10:00] Speaker 3: Quiet at that level, I'm I'm going to re send okay, please,
[1:10:04] Speaker 3: I like to be a rich truther, like just making
[1:10:07] Speaker 3: sure that everyone is good. But yes, so that's that's
[1:10:11] Speaker 3: a nice thing that you did.
[1:10:11] Speaker 2: And I went and I snuck a little bit of
[1:10:15] Speaker 2: acid and I was like, I went on the beach
[1:10:18] Speaker 2: and I like parked it on the beach and I
[1:10:21] Speaker 2: was like, I'm not ready for this job. I'm not
[1:10:23] Speaker 2: ready to be on camera. I took it a little
[1:10:26] Speaker 2: half type of acid. Then I'm watching Stefan on my
[1:10:29] Speaker 2: phone and I hallucinate myself on screen. Oh my god,
[1:10:34] Speaker 2: And I was like, I can do it. I'm ready.
[1:10:37] Speaker 3: This is such a good drug store.
[1:10:38] Speaker 2: It's a great story.
[1:10:39] Speaker 1: The thing about that, the thing about LSD is it
[1:10:42] Speaker 1: can work.
[1:10:43] Speaker 2: It can work.
[1:10:44] Speaker 1: It got us through a big conflict.
[1:10:46] Speaker 2: It got us through a big conflict one time. And
[1:10:47] Speaker 2: now now I don't now I now, I sheepishly, I'm like,
[1:10:49] Speaker 2: I don't think. I think I'm good on the segel.
[1:10:51] Speaker 3: I love that story that you were scared and that
[1:10:54] Speaker 3: drugs helped you get the confidence.
[1:10:55] Speaker 2: Drugs and stuff on helped me.
[1:10:56] Speaker 3: Drugs and stuff on, Yes, helped changeable. Were you on
[1:11:00] Speaker 3: this trip alone?
[1:11:01] Speaker 1: Yes? So does that?
[1:11:02] Speaker 2: I do that.
[1:11:03] Speaker 1: I love it.
[1:11:03] Speaker 3: So I have three kids under the age of eight,
[1:11:06] Speaker 3: so I'd like to go someplace that has like a
[1:11:09] Speaker 3: it's kid friendly. Yes, but I can like leave them
[1:11:11] Speaker 3: somewhere and then go do spa stuff by myself.
[1:11:14] Speaker 1: You know What's funny? Like I we I end up
[1:11:17] Speaker 1: randomly going to I'm sure it's not random. I'm sure
[1:11:20] Speaker 1: I get inspired when I see white Lotus and then
[1:11:22] Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to I want to go to there.
[1:11:24] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but but uh two years in a row
[1:11:28] Speaker 1: now I've done. I ended up going to sicily after
[1:11:30] Speaker 1: them and now tailand after that.
[1:11:32] Speaker 3: You know what, I respect that I am not. I've
[1:11:34] Speaker 3: spent so much creativity in my life that I am
[1:11:37] Speaker 3: going to be very basic about vacations. I see people
[1:11:40] Speaker 3: go to Osaka and get a burken bag. I am
[1:11:42] Speaker 3: going there.
[1:11:42] Speaker 1: Then where you can too.
[1:11:44] Speaker 3: When there's something trendy, like there, did you know there's
[1:11:46] Speaker 3: a seventh Hawaiian Island? You gotta go there. There's a
[1:11:49] Speaker 3: new place. I'm going to go there, Like I'm just
[1:11:51] Speaker 3: I think it's okay. We spent a lot of times
[1:11:54] Speaker 3: trying to come up with new ways to be original,
[1:11:56] Speaker 3: and you can just go on the on the whatever
[1:11:58] Speaker 3: this season is, I'm going to go to God, but
[1:12:00] Speaker 3: we'll go town after this season of Yes.
[1:12:10] Speaker 1: Honestly great, it was wonderful.
[1:12:13] Speaker 2: It was wonderful.
[1:12:14] Speaker 1: It was wonderful.
[1:12:14] Speaker 2: We just got really we just had to like hob
[1:12:16] Speaker 2: nob with like we read Can Lion.
[1:12:18] Speaker 3: Oh that's the one with It's like the marketing.
[1:12:21] Speaker 2: It's like the marketing people.
[1:12:23] Speaker 3: It's like a couple. It's like a month after.
[1:12:26] Speaker 2: It's like a few weeks after Can and it's just
[1:12:29] Speaker 2: like all right, you gotta stay up till two and
[1:12:31] Speaker 2: go to the Spotify beach party.
[1:12:33] Speaker 1: It's giving Spotify beach party with everyone that has the
[1:12:38] Speaker 1: money for work.
[1:12:39] Speaker 2: It was for last year, is for me, c sentis
[1:12:42] Speaker 2: for culture where its last year to like explain to
[1:12:44] Speaker 2: people like what the what the we were doing?
[1:12:46] Speaker 1: Oh my god we went with cookingula or now who
[1:12:50] Speaker 1: have now imploded on summer house?
[1:12:51] Speaker 3: Okay? Yes?
[1:12:52] Speaker 2: And how they're gay, Like we had a grand time
[1:12:56] Speaker 2: from Salt Lake City, but it was like every inch
[1:12:58] Speaker 2: of that town is covered in inactivation.
[1:13:00] Speaker 3: It was in a way that is fun.
[1:13:02] Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that, you know what, I'd like to
[1:13:05] Speaker 2: be invited back.
[1:13:07] Speaker 3: I think that that that one is either there's you
[1:13:11] Speaker 3: can still there's like yacht culture is still a big
[1:13:13] Speaker 3: part of it, right.
[1:13:14] Speaker 1: Yes, sure, yes, Well I didn't know anything about yacht culture,
[1:13:18] Speaker 1: and so I started dating Fraser and then I really
[1:13:21] Speaker 1: realized that it really is a whole thing. Like there's
[1:13:24] Speaker 1: people our friend Abe knows the name of like every
[1:13:28] Speaker 1: yacht in the world, and like who owns it and
[1:13:30] Speaker 1: how big they are. It's like a real thing.
[1:13:33] Speaker 3: That's the part I mean, that's where I like, i
[1:13:36] Speaker 3: feel like I'm famous, but not yacht famous. Where you're
[1:13:39] Speaker 3: going on like the Geffen God or the Bezos yacht
[1:13:43] Speaker 3: or like you know, like Seth. You're friends with Seth Myers.
[1:13:47] Speaker 3: Seth is I think he's always on, like a Barry
[1:13:49] Speaker 3: Diller yacht.
[1:13:50] Speaker 1: I feel like he's always Cohen told me he went
[1:13:52] Speaker 1: on the yacht.
[1:13:53] Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet Seth was there in mid Alexi.
[1:13:56] Speaker 1: You're just there all confront him.
[1:13:59] Speaker 3: Just can Yeah, I heard I think Seth was at
[1:14:05] Speaker 3: the I think BJ hosted the pen gala and Seth
[1:14:08] Speaker 3: was there in the right up of it. They said
[1:14:10] Speaker 3: that Seth was looking especially handsome always yeah, but there
[1:14:16] Speaker 3: might have been something. Well, I just really people are
[1:14:23] Speaker 3: always accusing me of this stuff. I want to accuse someone.
[1:14:25] Speaker 1: Let start accusing me of Seth Myers. We've noticed all
[1:14:28] Speaker 1: the work.
[1:14:29] Speaker 3: We just you're looking good.
[1:14:30] Speaker 1: Would you get a.
[1:14:31] Speaker 2: Frack soul and you got a little Farrah tell us.
[1:14:36] Speaker 1: Well lit little that. Yeah.
[1:14:38] Speaker 3: No one can just enjoy a compliment. It has to
[1:14:40] Speaker 3: be there has to be something behind it, a little accusation.
[1:14:43] Speaker 1: The accusation put them on their heels.
[1:14:46] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:14:46] Speaker 1: Speaking of being on your heels, audience is about to
[1:14:49] Speaker 1: be on their heels. It's time to transition to the
[1:14:51] Speaker 1: segment we are super famous for. I don't think so honey.
[1:14:58] Speaker 1: So this is a one minute screed where we just
[1:15:03] Speaker 1: kind of go off on something in culture. I've chosen
[1:15:07] Speaker 1: food culture today fabulous. This came up earlier and I realized, Wow,
[1:15:12] Speaker 1: I've never liked this, and I'm gonna explore how much
[1:15:14] Speaker 1: I don't.
[1:15:15] Speaker 3: I'm so excited like this.
[1:15:17] Speaker 2: I don't think somebody's time starts now.
[1:15:19] Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Barrata It's like, that's not
[1:15:24] Speaker 1: a salad. It's a gooey mess. And this is not
[1:15:28] Speaker 1: how I like my cheese to be. The arugula is
[1:15:32] Speaker 1: not my favorite piece of salad. It's not my favorite
[1:15:35] Speaker 1: salad category. And then the balsamic drizzle, no, thank you,
[1:15:39] Speaker 1: just together. I am not into it. Also, tomatoes, you
[1:15:43] Speaker 1: know that I was that kid that hated tomatoes so much.
[1:15:45] Speaker 1: I told waiters I was allergic. It didn't matter that.
[1:15:48] Speaker 1: I then was like, I'll have the passama gread.
[1:15:51] Speaker 2: No.
[1:15:51] Speaker 1: I didn't want to see tomatoes. I don't like an
[1:15:53] Speaker 1: heirloom tomato. No, the barrata moment, it's ouhi, it's gooey.
[1:15:58] Speaker 1: It's not for me. I really feel as though here's
[1:16:02] Speaker 1: a list of other salads that you gotta get. Okay,
[1:16:06] Speaker 1: little jam, Yeah, up Jam. I also want to just
[1:16:11] Speaker 1: say I am having a Caesar revolution talking about Julius.
[1:16:17] Speaker 1: I am talking about salad. I had a wonderful Oh
[1:16:21] Speaker 1: that was one minute. Keep going, I don't think any
[1:16:23] Speaker 1: bad one minute.
[1:16:25] Speaker 2: Tell us about your caesar salad that you had to
[1:16:27] Speaker 2: It was salad he.
[1:16:29] Speaker 1: Caught grill and we were on the NBC Universal lot.
[1:16:33] Speaker 3: Hey, low key, great momsary.
[1:16:36] Speaker 2: Great commentary, blown away so good.
[1:16:38] Speaker 1: We really were blown away.
[1:16:40] Speaker 3: Wait, tablecloth with good stuff, right, good celeb spotting. I
[1:16:44] Speaker 3: didn't know they had a good caesar there.
[1:16:45] Speaker 1: They have a great caesar there.
[1:16:46] Speaker 2: And the chicken was thick, thick chicken.
[1:16:49] Speaker 1: It was thick. It was thick, grilled chicken. The caesar
[1:16:51] Speaker 1: was great.
[1:16:52] Speaker 3: Really growth chicken cold, and the chicken is hot.
[1:16:55] Speaker 1: The salad is cold, the chicken is hot, exactly how
[1:16:58] Speaker 1: it should be. We we did not have medium. Wow,
[1:17:04] Speaker 1: it was really really really good. And what else?
[1:17:06] Speaker 2: The fries were good, Yeah, fries were great. You know
[1:17:09] Speaker 2: the fries are good if it's on the menu as
[1:17:11] Speaker 2: pumfree palm free.
[1:17:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:17:13] Speaker 3: You know the thing about that commissary is like, you'll
[1:17:16] Speaker 3: be like, holy shit, you'll see someone Yeah, Jack Black, Yeah, yeah.
[1:17:23] Speaker 1: Is that a minion?
[1:17:24] Speaker 2: Yeah? Amazing?
[1:17:27] Speaker 1: Rocket hit a minion at Universal? Actually a retal Culture
[1:17:29] Speaker 1: number fifteen. You throw a rocket, hit a million at Universal,
[1:17:33] Speaker 1: and I bet they would be so hilarious getting hit
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: by a rock too. They're so funny the minion. Watch
[1:17:39] Speaker 1: the Culture Awards tonight on NBC. Okay, so that's mine.
[1:17:44] Speaker 2: I don't know, I've got one.
[1:17:46] Speaker 3: Guys, so excited. This is I feel I can I
[1:17:49] Speaker 3: just I love this. I feel so happy to be
[1:17:52] Speaker 3: here and.
[1:17:52] Speaker 2: Seeing we love this is perfect vibe. I love it.
[1:17:56] Speaker 2: We adore anytime allowed, and I knew we would have
[1:18:00] Speaker 2: much fun with you too.
[1:18:01] Speaker 3: This is really nice. Okay, I can't wait for this.
[1:18:03] Speaker 1: Okay, Bowen, are you ready?
[1:18:05] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[1:18:05] Speaker 1: This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey. His
[1:18:07] Speaker 1: time starts now.
[1:18:08] Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. That little greasy spot on
[1:18:11] Speaker 2: the space bar, which is usually on the right, Oh
[1:18:14] Speaker 2: my god, what the fuck are we doing? Why aren't
[1:18:16] Speaker 2: we Why is there no international law against using the
[1:18:22] Speaker 2: same plastic on all the space bars and every single
[1:18:25] Speaker 2: keyboard in the world. I'm going do I have extra
[1:18:30] Speaker 2: glands on this thing? Why is that the spot? Why
[1:18:34] Speaker 2: does it? Why does it go on the right spot?
[1:18:36] Speaker 2: I guess I'm being told seconds you're kind of smoothing
[1:18:41] Speaker 2: it out, You're taking out the texture because of the
[1:18:44] Speaker 2: contact you make with it over time. Well, why haven't
[1:18:46] Speaker 2: we figured out a different material? Can we make a
[1:18:50] Speaker 2: glass keyboard? I would love something that we could just tacitly,
[1:18:54] Speaker 2: wipe down and call it a day. I don't understand
[1:18:57] Speaker 2: this kind of I don't understand this kind of plastic.
[1:19:00] Speaker 2: I don't really have anything else to add, but it's
[1:19:02] Speaker 2: just it's I'm seconded by the notion that we must
[1:19:05] Speaker 2: all think that we're it's this one imperfection on the
[1:19:08] Speaker 2: keyboard sometimes that you just you can't wipe off. I mean,
[1:19:11] Speaker 2: I hate it.
[1:19:11] Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Isn't it incredible we're in
[1:19:14] Speaker 1: space in all different kinds of ways. They they're talking
[1:19:16] Speaker 1: about landing on Mars and.
[1:19:19] Speaker 2: We can't get the space.
[1:19:22] Speaker 1: It is gross, it's disgusting.
[1:19:25] Speaker 3: It's disgusting, it's too and you.
[1:19:28] Speaker 1: Know it came from it's from you.
[1:19:30] Speaker 3: Logical.
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to.
[1:19:31] Speaker 3: Be reminded of it all it's great. I don't and
[1:19:34] Speaker 3: why can't we it. I'm not going to clean my keyboard.
[1:19:37] Speaker 3: It should be done for me.
[1:19:39] Speaker 1: Well we we also were saying our friend Aaron Jackson
[1:19:41] Speaker 1: came in and did it. I don't think so, Honey.
[1:19:43] Speaker 1: The kitchen is always dirty, it's never clean. It's like
[1:19:47] Speaker 1: that with the keyboard too. This is another epidemic, epidemic.
[1:19:51] Speaker 1: This is really crazy what happens with the keyboard. And
[1:19:55] Speaker 1: you don't want to admit it, but it's it's it's
[1:20:00] Speaker 1: human dust and oils. It's human dust, oils and biological matter.
[1:20:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. I just had to. I really had
[1:20:07] Speaker 2: to say that. I check that keyboard, Doug. What is histulations?
[1:20:14] Speaker 1: None.
[1:20:15] Speaker 2: Here's what I have to do now is I have
[1:20:18] Speaker 2: to go on a website and buy a keyboard cover,
[1:20:23] Speaker 2: a plastic Yes, I have a plastic keyboard cover. And
[1:20:26] Speaker 2: then I have to buy little double sided stickers so
[1:20:30] Speaker 2: that I can and he's the cover to the keyboards.
[1:20:34] Speaker 3: You shouldn't have to do that. No, I work hard,
[1:20:38] Speaker 3: you know.
[1:20:38] Speaker 1: What I mean, Michelle? Do it?
[1:20:40] Speaker 2: Michelle?
[1:20:43] Speaker 1: Okay, wait no, I really do get like really excited though,
[1:20:47] Speaker 1: when I take an antibacterial wipe and just go over
[1:20:49] Speaker 1: the whole computer. I feel like my entire apartment is clean.
[1:20:52] Speaker 3: I've never once cleaned my computer. Oh no, it's I
[1:20:55] Speaker 3: don't know why I just said that. It's so disgusting,
[1:20:58] Speaker 3: but it's true.
[1:20:59] Speaker 1: Maybe tonight, maybe tonight.
[1:21:01] Speaker 3: Probably not like I said maybe tonight, knowing I would
[1:21:04] Speaker 3: never mean it. Just throw it out and just get
[1:21:07] Speaker 3: another one.
[1:21:08] Speaker 2: In the computer.
[1:21:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, it it is probably time. It's always kind of time.
[1:21:12] Speaker 3: It's always kind of time, you know, getting a new
[1:21:14] Speaker 3: final draft update?
[1:21:16] Speaker 1: Okay, can we say final draft is the worst?
[1:21:19] Speaker 3: What's worst final drafts for picks?
[1:21:23] Speaker 1: I think Final Draft because I used to use Celtex instead.
[1:21:27] Speaker 3: Because when the update comes, you need the password and
[1:21:30] Speaker 3: you haven't had it's it's awful.
[1:21:33] Speaker 2: The cloud thing doesn't really work if you want to
[1:21:35] Speaker 2: open it up on your phone, like forget it. We
[1:21:37] Speaker 2: used to use writer Duet because it was a Google
[1:21:40] Speaker 2: doc because you get to go because it was like
[1:21:43] Speaker 2: a Google doc thing where you just wrote at the
[1:21:45] Speaker 2: same time you can see what the other person was
[1:21:46] Speaker 2: typing from their computer.
[1:21:47] Speaker 3: It's nice.
[1:21:48] Speaker 1: We wrote our two person drag play Night Soap.
[1:21:52] Speaker 2: It was writers Ben.
[1:21:54] Speaker 3: It sounds fabulous. Great name for software, right, write a
[1:21:58] Speaker 3: writer or do at So it's made for two people
[1:22:00] Speaker 3: writing together.
[1:22:01] Speaker 1: Or however many whoa Yeah, it's just just just getting
[1:22:04] Speaker 1: a writer, quartet or whatever the three is. Trio Yeah, yeah,
[1:22:10] Speaker 1: I was ready to go quintet, sextet, all of them.
[1:22:13] Speaker 1: There you go, But I lost trio until now it
[1:22:16] Speaker 1: was there. Trio was kind of a wild secretaries in
[1:22:18] Speaker 1: my mind. Got the file?
[1:22:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, really good. It's time for our guests to have
[1:22:23] Speaker 2: her secretaries of her mind get the file.
[1:22:25] Speaker 1: To rifle through the cabinets. Okay, this are you ready? Yes,
[1:22:29] Speaker 1: this is Mindy Kaling's I don't think so, honey. Her
[1:22:32] Speaker 1: time starts now.
[1:22:34] Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think so, honey. People who knock on
[1:22:37] Speaker 3: a door like this, no, no, no, you are a cornball.
[1:22:46] Speaker 1: Oh my normal.
[1:22:48] Speaker 3: Do not knock at me like that.
[1:22:50] Speaker 1: It's crazy.
[1:22:51] Speaker 2: That is crazy.
[1:22:52] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:22:53] Speaker 3: When you knock on the door like that, it just
[1:22:55] Speaker 3: reveals how different our world views are. You think that
[1:22:59] Speaker 3: knocking on the door should be an expression of self? No,
[1:23:03] Speaker 3: that it should just be functionality. There should not be Also,
[1:23:06] Speaker 3: why did you think that my reaction was going to
[1:23:08] Speaker 3: be on the other side of the door. I was
[1:23:10] Speaker 3: gonna be like Oh, that's like a funny person on
[1:23:13] Speaker 3: the other side of the door. I like that person.
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: They're a real joke. Start.
[1:23:17] Speaker 3: No, there's only one acceptable way to knock, and that's this.
[1:23:22] Speaker 3: If you're the FBI, you knock seven times and you
[1:23:25] Speaker 3: kick the door down when you don't do that, when
[1:23:28] Speaker 3: was that first funny in like the nineteen twenties, for
[1:23:30] Speaker 3: like a month when you could do that and people
[1:23:32] Speaker 3: are like, that's cool. If you knock like this, I
[1:23:37] Speaker 3: cannot if you have. If you knock like that, you're
[1:23:40] Speaker 3: dentiny and.
[1:23:41] Speaker 1: That's wow wow. And you know when you reached over,
[1:23:46] Speaker 1: I was like, please do.
[1:23:49] Speaker 2: You please do it? And then shave spiral for months.
[1:23:54] Speaker 3: It is why, Like you wonder like when someone does that,
[1:23:57] Speaker 3: Like I'm at the doctor and I just like, I'm sitting.
[1:24:00] Speaker 3: If you're in, then you're sitting in your gown and
[1:24:03] Speaker 3: then you hear somebody knocking. I'm not in the mood
[1:24:06] Speaker 3: for this.
[1:24:07] Speaker 1: Not a fun nurse not coming in with the knock.
[1:24:10] Speaker 2: But you've seen this out in the wild. You really haven't.
[1:24:14] Speaker 2: I know that.
[1:24:15] Speaker 1: I don't believe you.
[1:24:15] Speaker 3: I mean, it's and I love first ads.
[1:24:18] Speaker 1: It's a real first or is so on set.
[1:24:21] Speaker 3: It's a it's a version of the lady God.
[1:24:25] Speaker 1: Remember we used to say an O my lady gay
[1:24:28] Speaker 1: and like like a gay that wears a boat. I'm
[1:24:31] Speaker 1: gonna tell you what we're talking about. After you you'll.
[1:24:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you know, and this this is like
[1:24:36] Speaker 3: it's like the person who does this accent and we're
[1:24:41] Speaker 3: not talking Connor story accents right where you're like, I
[1:24:44] Speaker 3: love this. It's like a little malady. I feel like,
[1:24:48] Speaker 3: especially when we're in comedy, it's like there's a time
[1:24:51] Speaker 3: and place for this and this is not.
[1:24:53] Speaker 2: Of course, someone online pointed out that the only this
[1:24:58] Speaker 2: this kind of knock only happens on film and television.
[1:25:02] Speaker 2: In film and television, knock, knock, knock, someone's saying the
[1:25:05] Speaker 2: words knock, knock, knock while they're knocking on the door.
[1:25:08] Speaker 1: That's so foolish.
[1:25:10] Speaker 3: Get penalty if that.
[1:25:11] Speaker 2: I've never encountered that in real life. I've knock knock
[1:25:14] Speaker 2: like I kind of like to do it.
[1:25:20] Speaker 1: I think, did I break them old?
[1:25:22] Speaker 3: I believe you, But now I'm like, should you do it?
[1:25:25] Speaker 1: Knock knock knock? You know what I really want to
[1:25:28] Speaker 1: be this sitcom neighbor knock knock Knock. I really feel
[1:25:34] Speaker 1: I missed my opportunity to be on a nineties sitcom
[1:25:37] Speaker 1: where I come in, where I come in like at
[1:25:40] Speaker 1: the end of act one and bring just just like
[1:25:45] Speaker 1: off kilter chaos, I think.
[1:25:49] Speaker 3: Straight. The problem is is you, guys are too hot
[1:25:51] Speaker 3: now to be the.
[1:25:52] Speaker 1: Character that it's huge to hear.
[1:25:56] Speaker 3: It's not credible, Like for you being like knock.
[1:25:59] Speaker 1: Knocked, I'm incredibly goofy neighbors. Knock knock knock.
[1:26:02] Speaker 3: You the voice, the voice, the face you're It's like,
[1:26:07] Speaker 3: I got it. You're giving character actor, but the rest
[1:26:10] Speaker 3: is not giving character actor.
[1:26:12] Speaker 2: Guys, I'm a character actor down, It's so fine.
[1:26:17] Speaker 1: Nolua a model is characterized.
[1:26:20] Speaker 2: That's me, a louayve a model. Wait wait, there's one thing.
[1:26:24] Speaker 2: There's one thing. I lost it. There's knock knock knock. Damn.
[1:26:30] Speaker 1: What is there another style of greeting that you're like, no, yeah,
[1:26:34] Speaker 1: well there's not a content. There's hello my lady. Oh god,
[1:26:38] Speaker 1: it makes my pelvic floor want to run away.
[1:26:41] Speaker 2: Damn.
[1:26:44] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:26:45] Speaker 1: Like it's very and I say this. I say this
[1:26:49] Speaker 1: with love for myself. It's Disney gay and I'm okay
[1:26:54] Speaker 1: with it.
[1:26:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, can I.
[1:26:55] Speaker 3: Can you guys tell me about Disney gay because I
[1:26:58] Speaker 3: have I have a great friend Justine Noble, who you
[1:27:00] Speaker 3: guys might know. I just think he's a self described
[1:27:04] Speaker 3: Disney gay. But he is a person I respect, and
[1:27:08] Speaker 3: he's smart and with integrity, but he loves Disney. He
[1:27:11] Speaker 3: was like writing in the lobby of the Grand Californian,
[1:27:13] Speaker 3: and so I kind of say, I hope that's okay
[1:27:16] Speaker 3: for me to say, but it is so funny.
[1:27:18] Speaker 1: I identify I identify as like a semi ironic Disney gay.
[1:27:23] Speaker 2: Okay, you have I think Matt and I would and
[1:27:27] Speaker 2: and I would say Justin has a dimension of Disney gay. Yeah,
[1:27:31] Speaker 2: there are Disney gays who are.
[1:27:35] Speaker 1: Like, here's my collection of stencils of Goofy and it's like, okay,
[1:27:40] Speaker 1: all right, and then there's it's it's like it's.
[1:27:42] Speaker 2: Like for real, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:27:44] Speaker 1: And well, by the way, Fraser says he can't believe
[1:27:47] Speaker 1: I'm dating someone with this interest.
[1:27:49] Speaker 2: Is that's fine.
[1:27:51] Speaker 1: I understand it hasn't been yet. He actually doesn't even know.
[1:27:54] Speaker 3: What would You've never been to any Disney.
[1:27:57] Speaker 1: No, you haven't been.
[1:27:59] Speaker 2: It's with a headpiece with ears and a pack. It
[1:28:03] Speaker 2: is not something I'll accept.
[1:28:04] Speaker 3: And whoa something except he said it like that. It
[1:28:09] Speaker 3: was like you should be ashamed of yourself. Don't make
[1:28:12] Speaker 3: him do that.
[1:28:13] Speaker 1: I know. Like, but he's gonna have fun against his
[1:28:16] Speaker 1: every instinct.
[1:28:17] Speaker 2: That it's not the requirement though, you know what I mean, Like,
[1:28:19] Speaker 2: no one's forcing you to wear to wear that. I
[1:28:21] Speaker 2: understand what you're saying. That's what I associate with the
[1:28:23] Speaker 2: Disney adults.
[1:28:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're not. Yeah, yeah, but that's not I
[1:28:27] Speaker 1: can't you know what though, we can't say we don't
[1:28:28] Speaker 1: wear the clothes because in Tokyo Disney, see, while we're
[1:28:31] Speaker 1: we wearing it was really fun full head hats because
[1:28:35] Speaker 1: it was January, was cold, it was it was practical.
[1:28:37] Speaker 3: You guys are Disney Gays.
[1:28:39] Speaker 2: We like to go to the parks. Okay, believe it
[1:28:42] Speaker 2: at that.
[1:28:43] Speaker 1: We had a wonderful time in Disneyland, Paris Harris.
[1:28:46] Speaker 3: That's that's chic.
[1:28:47] Speaker 1: They let you drink wine there because they don't let
[1:28:50] Speaker 1: you drink it in the other.
[1:28:52] Speaker 3: Yeah, they kind of don't.
[1:28:54] Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they're they're changing their ways about that.
[1:28:58] Speaker 3: Yes, they're the California Adventure. Hey, I was about to
[1:29:02] Speaker 3: be so boring. Who cares. I'm not going to tell you,
[1:29:04] Speaker 3: like what I know about the rules about alcohol? It Didney, like,
[1:29:06] Speaker 3: nobody cares.
[1:29:07] Speaker 1: California Adventure. You can, but yeah, I don't let me
[1:29:10] Speaker 1: take it. I don't know. Empathetic, I don't want to know.
[1:29:15] Speaker 3: I don't want to.
[1:29:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's trust me. You're better off at the Aman.
[1:29:21] Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we hope that for you.
[1:29:24] Speaker 1: We'll go to the ama Yara instead. Altogether, I feel
[1:29:27] Speaker 1: like this episode has been like a wonderful vacation.
[1:29:30] Speaker 3: It has felt that way. I love it. I'm sad
[1:29:32] Speaker 3: to leave.
[1:29:33] Speaker 1: I mean, listen, this has been so great and I
[1:29:38] Speaker 1: really did. I was like, again, we're on the day
[1:29:42] Speaker 1: of the Cultural Awards, and I was thinking about, like
[1:29:45] Speaker 1: just how amazing we felt that the camera just panned
[1:29:49] Speaker 1: in there you were, and you've always been one of
[1:29:50] Speaker 1: our favorites. And this has been so much fun and
[1:29:54] Speaker 1: we just love you.
[1:29:55] Speaker 3: I feel honored, thank you so much. It was really special.
[1:29:59] Speaker 3: I hope I can come back again.
[1:30:01] Speaker 1: Oh please, You've been put in the regular rotation and
[1:30:04] Speaker 1: by the way, not suitable before streaming now.
[1:30:07] Speaker 2: Hulu which is now which now has the same parent
[1:30:11] Speaker 2: company as Fox, which is what mindy product was on
[1:30:14] Speaker 2: before and isn't isn't that interesting?
[1:30:18] Speaker 3: It is interesting? You really you know this stuff what.
[1:30:22] Speaker 2: I'm saying, But like, isn't that funny?
[1:30:23] Speaker 1: How it moved to Hulu? Well, he loves vertical integration.
[1:30:27] Speaker 1: He's really passionate about it. He's really You should have
[1:30:30] Speaker 1: seen him at the upfront. Was lit up. He was like,
[1:30:33] Speaker 1: where can I learn? I love consolidation.
[1:30:36] Speaker 3: No, it is true. That's a good point because I
[1:30:38] Speaker 3: was there and all the show's there. There's still an
[1:30:41] Speaker 3: iteration of Handmaid's Tale on Oh yeah, I was there.
[1:30:44] Speaker 1: Now, God, their Inmates Tale is going to be like
[1:30:46] Speaker 1: Fast and the Furious. It's never gonna end. It's gonna
[1:30:48] Speaker 1: get like like many mini sequels. There's going to be
[1:30:51] Speaker 1: a roller coaster. I'm sure Michelle Rodriguez is in it.
[1:30:55] Speaker 1: She's in everything and every episode with the song yeah,
[1:30:59] Speaker 1: I can't wait.
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