# "Professional Performing Arts Episode" (w/ Monét X Change)

An episode of [Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1092361338), 25 Feb 2026, 1 h 31 min.

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Matt + Bowen finally welcome drag superstar Monét X Change to the podcast! And there's *lore*! The host of Sibling Rivalry and Monét Talks delights the boys with the tale of her perfect recent engagement, details how she found her (very low) voice in chorus and shares her ambition to be in Death Becomes Her on Broadway (which must happen, btw). Also, That's So Raven and Raven Symoné giving TV's best comedic performance at the time, Final Fantasy X, discovering drag and rising quickly in the NYC scene and "podiatric feminization". All this, Kelly Rowland appreciation, reaction to the REACTION of The Traitors season 4, a preview of Survivor 50, and the time Monét met SZA on a plane. The tour is High Heels, Bad Knees and this Drag Race and reality TV legend is hitting a city near you SOON so go SOAK HER UP! Throwback! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Look maner oh, I see you. Wow. Look over there.
[0:05] Speaker 1: Wow is that the culture?
[0:06] Speaker 2: Yes?
[0:06] Speaker 1: Goodness wow, lost culture.
[0:11] Speaker 3: Ding dong lost culture istas calling. We're already sort of
[0:14] Speaker 3: in process on this episode. We just got right into it.
[0:16] Speaker 4: I think it's because it's well by the time this
[0:18] Speaker 4: comes out, it will be pisc season the beginning day one,
[0:22] Speaker 4: because it's sort of time.
[0:23] Speaker 3: Who was ringing through the hallways as we were preparing
[0:26] Speaker 3: was his and we were sort of connecting about really
[0:29] Speaker 3: just how good Sociss it is. And I said, most
[0:30] Speaker 3: memorable concert of my life March fifth, twenty twenty three,
[0:34] Speaker 3: Pisce season, my birthday.
[0:36] Speaker 2: Fell off that diving board.
[0:39] Speaker 1: Why why do we laugh? Why why is there laughter?
[0:44] Speaker 3: So you think it's funny to think of someone falling
[0:47] Speaker 3: off a diving board, which is actually really why I've been.
[0:51] Speaker 1: Unbelievable that she fell.
[0:54] Speaker 4: She was sitting like Princess Diana and then slipped off.
[0:58] Speaker 1: Tragic, hail oh, tragic.
[1:00] Speaker 4: And I love that we're back in like a classics space.
[1:05] Speaker 1: I think our guest has always been.
[1:06] Speaker 3: In that space, studied the classics, study the classics vocals.
[1:10] Speaker 1: That is the PAS. This is a moment. What is PVAs.
[1:14] Speaker 4: Professional performing arts school, which I want to really dig
[1:19] Speaker 4: deep into, like what was the feeling knowing that the
[1:23] Speaker 4: other school was right up the street?
[1:28] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[1:30] Speaker 3: The episodes it's title front Runner is Professional Performing Arts episode.
[1:36] Speaker 1: Yes, okay, because we're about.
[1:38] Speaker 2: To be schooled them.
[1:39] Speaker 4: Anyways, Absolutely, our guest is a legend winner of Polsirograce
[1:43] Speaker 4: All Stars, Trader season four participant.
[1:47] Speaker 3: But the thing is, really it wasn't anyone's fault. It
[1:52] Speaker 3: was just that luck thing that happens in Traders. I
[1:55] Speaker 3: really wanted a world where our guest was at the end,
[1:57] Speaker 3: and I felt it there for a second in the
[1:59] Speaker 3: edit was like I even said to people, definitively, they're
[2:02] Speaker 3: baking in into the edit. Money wins well because because
[2:05] Speaker 3: because because because our guest was booked for this, for
[2:07] Speaker 3: this show, yes before the season started, and we were
[2:10] Speaker 3: like Monet's coming, that means she does very, that means
[2:13] Speaker 3: she does well. We were like baked into that reality.
[2:17] Speaker 3: Come to find out she was a participant. But I
[2:20] Speaker 3: would have loved this a reality in which, at Bob's encouragement,
[2:25] Speaker 3: she got rid of Derinda first.
[2:27] Speaker 1: I would have loved that would have been amazing.
[2:28] Speaker 4: And what that would have seved us all this like this,
[2:30] Speaker 4: Ron Funches, Derenda just.
[2:32] Speaker 3: It's the will they won't They of the year? Well
[2:34] Speaker 3: yeah yeah, Ron Funches and Derinda, but also the host
[2:38] Speaker 3: of I Guess maybe the best podcast ever sibling Rivalry.
[2:41] Speaker 4: And talks and on gorgeous. I can't tell if that
[2:45] Speaker 4: white couch is gorgeous or disgusting. Let's let's get into it.
[2:52] Speaker 4: Is the tour February twentieth, May twenty third, it's her
[2:56] Speaker 4: birthday coming up.
[2:57] Speaker 2: Everyone welcome. Was such a lovely introduction.
[3:03] Speaker 1: It's a lovely time. You don't introduce you you.
[3:07] Speaker 2: I do, No, of course I.
[3:10] Speaker 3: Do.
[3:10] Speaker 1: I do.
[3:11] Speaker 2: I love a good intro, and I work really harder
[3:13] Speaker 2: than because I think it's a great way to set.
[3:14] Speaker 1: The tone of the interview.
[3:15] Speaker 2: You know, that interview is where they I could tell
[3:17] Speaker 2: they had no idea who the fuck I was, And
[3:19] Speaker 2: it was like, well, here we go, here.
[3:21] Speaker 4: We go, because because they call you, yeah, and then
[3:25] Speaker 4: but like she was on, so you think, so you
[3:30] Speaker 4: think you can draw.
[3:31] Speaker 1: I'm like, god, here we go. Yes, Chuck, Hi, Chuck,
[3:34] Speaker 1: how are you doing? I to be This is actually
[3:36] Speaker 1: a moment in history as well, because.
[3:38] Speaker 3: There's lare, there's Laura, there's literally because your to be husband,
[3:44] Speaker 3: Yes is Andy short who go so back with.
[3:49] Speaker 2: Yeah yan, But y'all know him in like a really
[3:52] Speaker 2: over like I can't even imagine that person that he
[3:54] Speaker 2: was like back then like he was he did a
[3:56] Speaker 2: lot of drugs, did a lot of drinking, like was
[3:58] Speaker 2: a mess, and he's just so different now drink the
[4:03] Speaker 2: biggest He was straight.
[4:04] Speaker 3: He was so straight he would walk around with an
[4:07] Speaker 3: iguana on him. That's crazy, Like do you remember when
[4:10] Speaker 3: head He'll have to like say what type of lizard?
[4:15] Speaker 2: It was really ragged dragon.
[4:18] Speaker 3: I'm the type of gay where I don't know the
[4:20] Speaker 3: difference between the lizards, you know what I mean?
[4:22] Speaker 1: Like see this was to illustrate your.
[4:24] Speaker 2: Cat looks so weird or something.
[4:27] Speaker 3: Your cat needs to be water cat.
[4:32] Speaker 2: Literally this is weird.
[4:34] Speaker 1: I mean.
[4:34] Speaker 2: Now he has a dog Potato, which the jury is
[4:37] Speaker 2: out on a.
[4:38] Speaker 1: Dog named Potato. I thought you said a doll potato.
[4:42] Speaker 1: He looks for. He waters that as well. Water is
[4:45] Speaker 1: that as well?
[4:45] Speaker 4: I feel comfortable striking about Andy, you know, because he
[4:48] Speaker 4: feels comfortable sea. He won't tell it's his claim to
[4:51] Speaker 4: fame is now his claim to fame is that you
[4:53] Speaker 4: two are madly in love. But I was his first cat,
[4:56] Speaker 4: his first this was yeah, because I visited him. So
[5:01] Speaker 4: he transferred to Emerson. Yes, he was because he was
[5:03] Speaker 4: kicked out of NYU.
[5:05] Speaker 1: I don't know that the dail.
[5:06] Speaker 3: Actually he was in our sketch comedy group and then
[5:09] Speaker 3: one day he just left and we were like what happened?
[5:11] Speaker 1: And we just figured he needed a change.
[5:13] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[5:13] Speaker 1: No, he was really up on this, up on the liquor.
[5:16] Speaker 1: He was like, I need to change my life.
[5:17] Speaker 2: Got sober and then and then but apparently because he
[5:20] Speaker 2: was so bad that third semester and why you asked
[5:23] Speaker 2: him to leave? Wow, They're like you have to go whoa. Yeah,
[5:27] Speaker 2: They're like you're no, no privilege here? Are you gone.
[5:31] Speaker 1: Out of here? Yeah?
[5:32] Speaker 4: So then he so then he goes to Emerson. He
[5:34] Speaker 4: transferred to Emerson is like a darling there because he's
[5:37] Speaker 4: the funniest person. And then after we graduate twenty twelve,
[5:42] Speaker 4: I this summer after we graduate undergrad I go up
[5:45] Speaker 4: to Boston and I was like, I'm gonna visit Andy.
[5:47] Speaker 4: How's he doing. He's sober now, he's great, Like I'm
[5:50] Speaker 4: you know, I love Barney his late mother, and so
[5:53] Speaker 4: I go up to Boston. I stay with him. We
[5:55] Speaker 4: have like I would say, a weekend that was like
[5:59] Speaker 4: a year pe in short film.
[6:01] Speaker 1: It was like so romantic.
[6:04] Speaker 3: And then and then we and then we went to
[6:07] Speaker 3: Walden Pond, Okay, snuck around like like a part of
[6:11] Speaker 3: the of the pond where like no one's allowed, Like
[6:14] Speaker 3: we like dove in and like swam a bit and like.
[6:21] Speaker 1: A talented creative person.
[6:24] Speaker 4: There was like a tense moment where we were just
[6:25] Speaker 4: like waiting in the waters kind of like looking at
[6:27] Speaker 4: each other like what is this? And then we go home,
[6:30] Speaker 4: We go back to his place, and then like I think,
[6:33] Speaker 4: and then at some point we just started.
[6:35] Speaker 1: Kiss you gingerly.
[6:38] Speaker 4: He drop me off the train station. Was like, well
[6:39] Speaker 4: that this this would never happen, Like this would never.
[6:43] Speaker 4: I'm so glad our paths diverged because you two found.
[6:47] Speaker 2: Love and you got to get you a woman.
[6:53] Speaker 1: I totally forgot.
[6:54] Speaker 2: About that years ago. And in this like crazy elaborate engagement,
[6:58] Speaker 2: he like flew her family and his family in like
[7:01] Speaker 2: this like crazy bachelor scavenger hunt in Central Parks. I was,
[7:05] Speaker 2: if you're gonna propose me, babe, you gotta up that ante. Absolutely,
[7:08] Speaker 2: I'm like, I gonna get.
[7:11] Speaker 1: The fast.
[7:12] Speaker 2: I guess just on bended me at a at like
[7:15] Speaker 2: a mid medieval times.
[7:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems so hetero though it is very hetero.
[7:21] Speaker 1: So then what did he do? What did he do
[7:22] Speaker 1: for you?
[7:23] Speaker 2: So on our very first date, we went out for
[7:25] Speaker 2: ice cream for our first date. Like that people who
[7:28] Speaker 2: do dinner for a first date, are you crazy? So
[7:32] Speaker 2: that is a you're paying like sixty eighty bucks to
[7:35] Speaker 2: talk to someone. It goes on way too long, like
[7:38] Speaker 2: an hour and a half. What if it's a bad date.
[7:39] Speaker 2: Now you just locked in for an hour and a
[7:41] Speaker 2: half with this person. That's like awful desert and you
[7:44] Speaker 2: have to get concerned. So we've had ice cream at
[7:47] Speaker 2: Vandalin ice Cream in in La and after that we like,
[7:50] Speaker 2: we were gonna go to Griffith Observatory to like just
[7:52] Speaker 2: check it out, but it was a.
[7:52] Speaker 1: Saturday, it was really busy.
[7:54] Speaker 2: So we he dropped me back back off of my car.
[7:57] Speaker 2: We shd a little kiss, and then later on the
[7:59] Speaker 2: night he was like, I'm to go to Hot Talk Sunday,
[8:01] Speaker 2: so you want to meet there? Met at Hot Dog Sunday.
[8:04] Speaker 2: So four our four anniversary. He was like, I want
[8:07] Speaker 2: to take you to Vandulin ice Cream again. I was like, okay, sure,
[8:11] Speaker 2: go into Vandline ice Cream.
[8:12] Speaker 1: Walk in.
[8:12] Speaker 2: They're playing my song love like this like the thing,
[8:16] Speaker 2: and they named like a flavor after me. I was like,
[8:19] Speaker 2: oh my god, this.
[8:19] Speaker 1: Is so sweet, so cute.
[8:21] Speaker 2: Before I get that's very cute. And then after he
[8:24] Speaker 2: was like, maybe let's go to Hot Doalk Sunday. Now
[8:26] Speaker 2: Hot Talk Sunday, y'all don't know starts at five pm.
[8:29] Speaker 2: At this point it's two pm. I was like, well,
[8:30] Speaker 2: why would we go there? Like the bar is going
[8:32] Speaker 2: to be closed. Like He's like, that's what I don't
[8:34] Speaker 2: want to go there. He's like, well, let's just try.
[8:35] Speaker 2: I was like, any that's stupid.
[8:37] Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, who wants to go like to
[8:38] Speaker 1: a closed bar. That's I'm not going there.
[8:40] Speaker 2: He's like, I think we should try him like that
[8:41] Speaker 2: is literally the dumbest idea anyone has ever said it.
[8:43] Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm actually taking me home now, I'm bad.
[8:45] Speaker 2: I take me home.
[8:46] Speaker 1: He's like he just god.
[8:47] Speaker 2: I was like, ah, fine, I'll do your stupid idea.
[8:49] Speaker 2: Go to Hot Dog Sunday. Get there Selena STDs is
[8:53] Speaker 2: playing the door girl and then she ushers me in.
[8:56] Speaker 2: He's on stage and there's like a beautiful sunflower installation
[8:59] Speaker 2: of like because you want me some flowers on a
[9:01] Speaker 2: first date?
[9:02] Speaker 1: And he's on stage.
[9:03] Speaker 2: He comes on in this black outfit and he sings
[9:05] Speaker 2: this acoustic version of my song love like This, and
[9:08] Speaker 2: as y'all know, and he does not sing. He had
[9:10] Speaker 2: taken voice lessons for a year to learn how to
[9:13] Speaker 2: sing for the profolos though, and very romantic. Oh no,
[9:18] Speaker 2: we didn't dive in a pond, but that would have
[9:19] Speaker 2: been that.
[9:20] Speaker 1: Would have been neither. We had a little different pond
[9:24] Speaker 1: that you guys. You guys have the rest of your
[9:26] Speaker 1: lives to do. I feel like, how could it be
[9:28] Speaker 1: more romantic?
[9:30] Speaker 2: It was very sweet but good, But can I say something?
[9:35] Speaker 2: I feel like such an asshole? Why say you proposed
[9:38] Speaker 2: gives me the ring? My god, it sounds so cunty
[9:42] Speaker 2: gives me the ring? And then I looked at the ring.
[9:44] Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this is beautiful. And then later that
[9:46] Speaker 2: night I was like, he was like, so, how do
[9:48] Speaker 2: you feel about the ring? I was like, I like it,
[9:51] Speaker 2: but one little change. I wanted just an eternity set
[9:55] Speaker 2: Bobby Diamond.
[9:56] Speaker 1: Yeah it really is. Okay, so.
[10:01] Speaker 2: And he had this but there was like a big
[10:03] Speaker 2: skirt cut diamond in the middle of it. It was
[10:06] Speaker 2: his mother's engagement. So I was like, I love this.
[10:11] Speaker 2: I was like, let's take off the stone. I'll put
[10:13] Speaker 2: on something else, yes, because I had.
[10:14] Speaker 1: To wear this of my life, you know what I mean.
[10:16] Speaker 2: So I'm putting it in like as.
[10:20] Speaker 3: So fucking tasteful, elegant, like a little that is you.
[10:27] Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so happy that you got like
[10:29] Speaker 3: the proposal you deserve. That is like I could not
[10:33] Speaker 3: think of someone I was actually saying. He back in
[10:37] Speaker 3: the day was known as being so effortlessly funny, like
[10:40] Speaker 3: in our schedule.
[10:41] Speaker 1: He was by far real.
[10:43] Speaker 3: People thought of him as one of the people that
[10:44] Speaker 3: was it could naturally sell anything in terms of comedy.
[10:48] Speaker 2: Well, y'all, hole, y'all's whole class, Like I mean, like
[10:51] Speaker 2: it's birth legend.
[10:53] Speaker 1: Something was crazy, like it is like so many talented
[10:56] Speaker 1: people from this class and it's crazy. Yeah.
[10:59] Speaker 3: I also shout out Steph Shoe, who is going to
[11:02] Speaker 3: be in Rocky Horror?
[11:03] Speaker 1: Did you see this Rocky? And I cannot wait to
[11:07] Speaker 1: see it.
[11:07] Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's really a gag. And I can't
[11:10] Speaker 3: believe Steph is that it's just perfect for that like.
[11:12] Speaker 1: Show that was so good.
[11:13] Speaker 2: I'm you know, I've only gotten I've only got it
[11:16] Speaker 2: gone it into theater as I left New York because
[11:19] Speaker 2: Borner raised New Yorker, but living here, I never went
[11:21] Speaker 2: to go see shows.
[11:22] Speaker 1: I was like, because you couldn't afford it, because that
[11:24] Speaker 1: was it for me.
[11:25] Speaker 3: Like we did not go when we were here all
[11:27] Speaker 3: the time, and we could have taken advantage of like
[11:30] Speaker 3: studios and stuff, but we just couldn't afford it. Like
[11:33] Speaker 3: that's why we never saw anything back in the day.
[11:35] Speaker 2: I was just ignorant.
[11:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that.
[11:42] Speaker 2: Late in life, I think moving to l A, I
[11:44] Speaker 2: was like, I want to just experience more theater and
[11:48] Speaker 2: but sometimes.
[11:51] Speaker 1: Well it's really weaker right now.
[11:53] Speaker 2: I know.
[11:53] Speaker 3: That's why all of a sudden, it's like, well, I'm
[11:57] Speaker 3: sure things are going to be great eventually, but the
[11:59] Speaker 3: thing is like the reason why there's like a lot
[12:01] Speaker 3: of things happening, there's a lot of space in theaters,
[12:03] Speaker 3: so things are now starting to get thrown up. Yeah,
[12:06] Speaker 3: but do you know what Jennifer Husband just announced is
[12:09] Speaker 3: she's producing dream Girls.
[12:12] Speaker 2: That's coming back.
[12:12] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which I've been I've been thinking why the
[12:15] Speaker 3: fund did they not bring that with amb?
[12:17] Speaker 1: Okay, so I had Ember Island the show. I was
[12:19] Speaker 1: like Amber, what happened?
[12:20] Speaker 2: She was like, I'm not going to say it was
[12:22] Speaker 2: because of me, but I could not come and do
[12:25] Speaker 2: it on Broadway. Yeah. This was like when this is
[12:28] Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, I think yeah, and like I had a
[12:30] Speaker 2: little money was on Draggers. I was like, you know,
[12:32] Speaker 2: I'm gonna like take a week off and make sure
[12:34] Speaker 2: I go see the show. But I never made time
[12:35] Speaker 2: to go do it. And I was kicking when I
[12:37] Speaker 2: because everyone was like, oh, it's coming to Broadway, right.
[12:39] Speaker 2: It was like bringing the Western production is coming to Broadway. Okay,
[12:43] Speaker 2: I'll just wait till it comes to New York ye.
[12:44] Speaker 2: And when it didn't, I was so mad that I
[12:46] Speaker 2: did not get to see the Western production of dream Girls.
[12:49] Speaker 2: But now we're going to get it here on Broadway.
[12:51] Speaker 2: You've done Broadway.
[12:52] Speaker 1: I've never done Broadway. You You're such a fucking fit,
[12:55] Speaker 1: you know.
[12:56] Speaker 2: I Cause I also okay to be the realty. I
[12:58] Speaker 2: just thought it auditioning for stuff I like November, and
[13:02] Speaker 2: because I was like, I'm an opera girly and in
[13:06] Speaker 2: school you were we they kind of taught us to
[13:09] Speaker 2: stick on it. Like there was like, you're not going
[13:10] Speaker 2: to do theater like it was that, like it was
[13:12] Speaker 2: that whole thing. So for for the longest time, I
[13:14] Speaker 2: was like, I can't do music theater like I need to.
[13:17] Speaker 1: I'm holding myself out for opera, you know.
[13:19] Speaker 2: But now I was like, now I'm a fully formed adult,
[13:22] Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I fucking love music theater.
[13:24] Speaker 1: Death becomes her. I've seen the show like nineteen times.
[13:27] Speaker 1: This is my dream.
[13:29] Speaker 2: Yes, I think that I can do the viola van
[13:35] Speaker 2: horn role. Imagine that in full dragoons and it is
[13:39] Speaker 2: the type of role where it sits with musically Yeah,
[13:41] Speaker 2: but Noel, it sits perfectly in my register and it
[13:45] Speaker 2: will still be just dramatic.
[13:46] Speaker 3: There's no reason for this to not happen. I have
[13:49] Speaker 3: to say out loud, this needs to happen. This viola
[13:53] Speaker 3: is thee Williams. Yeah, exactly, this would tear.
[14:04] Speaker 1: It would be a done deal.
[14:06] Speaker 3: I think it would be about every single I'm counting,
[14:10] Speaker 3: but in a sea I need that, by the way,
[14:15] Speaker 3: like she is so, and I've been watching so much
[14:18] Speaker 3: Kelly Rowland content.
[14:19] Speaker 1: I think today we're recording it's her birthday? Better know it?
[14:23] Speaker 3: Well, well, is it February thirteenth her birthday? Because there
[14:26] Speaker 3: there's been a lot of I don't know, Tina, what's
[14:27] Speaker 3: tra happy birthday today?
[14:28] Speaker 4: So what we're recording it is if you Beyonce dot com,
[14:31] Speaker 4: it's a lot of Kelly. I was just checking beyontay
[14:33] Speaker 4: dot com recently and it's a lot of Kelly stuff.
[14:35] Speaker 3: There's a Kelly Roland happening, and I just always appreciate.
[14:39] Speaker 1: When that happened.
[14:40] Speaker 2: She did an interview I think like two days ago,
[14:42] Speaker 2: and I just saw I pop up on on TikTok
[14:44] Speaker 2: or something like that, and she and someone asked her
[14:46] Speaker 2: to like, so, there are all these rumors that on
[14:48] Speaker 2: your tour that Beyonce like was giving you notes and
[14:50] Speaker 2: like everything. And she was like absolutely. She was like,
[14:53] Speaker 2: she's my best friend. She heard the greatest artists in
[14:55] Speaker 2: the world. Of course, she was like anytime my friends
[14:57] Speaker 2: cons my show, I welcome notes and I make my
[15:00] Speaker 2: show better. I was like, good on you and like
[15:01] Speaker 2: not being like no, I don't need any help. She's like, no,
[15:03] Speaker 2: like Beyonce is my best friend. Ye nothing, I'm gonna
[15:07] Speaker 2: like milk that. Of course she give me the notes.
[15:10] Speaker 1: She was iron sharpens iron. Yes. I was like, where, yes, wow,
[15:15] Speaker 1: because it is true.
[15:16] Speaker 3: I mean, like just to speak to that like you
[15:19] Speaker 3: surround yourself with. I think like the highest caliber of
[15:23] Speaker 3: people as well, like you every single week talked to
[15:25] Speaker 3: multiple times the funniest, smartest person about the dry queen,
[15:29] Speaker 3: because that's who you are. And I really do think
[15:31] Speaker 3: like I was there when we were all nominated and
[15:33] Speaker 3: you guys won the Glad Award, and I was like, yeah,
[15:38] Speaker 3: they should be winning every award for two people talking
[15:40] Speaker 3: to each other, Like that's just how I feel.
[15:43] Speaker 4: We're never gonna win those awards because we don't do Patreon,
[15:46] Speaker 4: like we we.
[15:48] Speaker 2: Can't talk y'all.
[15:56] Speaker 1: I'm just saying that it's done. We're done. We're done.
[15:59] Speaker 3: You do you do sibling rivalry, Patreon sibling rival and
[16:03] Speaker 3: then you do watchery, Yeah, which is I guess it
[16:06] Speaker 3: is like.
[16:06] Speaker 1: Part of it sold it in.
[16:07] Speaker 4: But then but then but then the money talks thing
[16:09] Speaker 4: is the couch is discussing.
[16:11] Speaker 2: You think, oh that couch, so that couch. It is
[16:14] Speaker 2: like one hundred dollar couch from the Facebook market place. Yes, yeah,
[16:17] Speaker 2: it works with the sex. It does because it's supposed
[16:20] Speaker 2: to be like this eighties basement e vibe just chill.
[16:23] Speaker 1: So yeah, I love that couch.
[16:25] Speaker 4: Well, I just I have to ask, just because you
[16:27] Speaker 4: briefly mentioned it with with Joel, Final Fantasy Tent talk
[16:31] Speaker 4: about it.
[16:31] Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, So, in my humble opinion, Final
[16:35] Speaker 2: Fantasy Tent is one of the best games of the decades, story,
[16:39] Speaker 2: best story of the night. It's just like the gameplay
[16:43] Speaker 2: is just so good, that this beautiful love story with
[16:46] Speaker 2: Titus and you, and then you have this witch Luna
[16:48] Speaker 2: with these little like voodoo dolls. It is just I
[16:51] Speaker 2: just I played the game through about three or four times.
[16:55] Speaker 2: I go through it. I make sure I get all
[16:56] Speaker 2: the aon's, I'm like doing all the bonus contents. I
[16:59] Speaker 2: just love that game so much. And it's so beautifully shot.
[17:02] Speaker 2: It's so beautifully shot whatever whatever, but like this, yes,
[17:05] Speaker 2: oh my god, what what's this? This is?
[17:09] Speaker 4: This turned the whole generation of boys day. This is if.
[17:13] Speaker 3: You do you know, do you know Siva Fuva? Of course,
[17:18] Speaker 3: of course our camera guys know one of them. She's
[17:22] Speaker 3: in a different group, by the way, than the people
[17:23] Speaker 3: who knew the film seven.
[17:27] Speaker 1: Mixture of people.
[17:28] Speaker 3: Last week we had a whole bunch of guys that
[17:29] Speaker 3: we mentioned the David Fincher film seven and they all
[17:32] Speaker 3: started to activate.
[17:34] Speaker 4: So this is a little bit of different here, but similar.
[17:38] Speaker 4: We're bringing people together. Shiva was just is the Countiest
[17:41] Speaker 4: Ice before there was.
[17:43] Speaker 2: Elsa before they were Shiva.
[17:46] Speaker 4: And then sometimes they do Shiva twins. They do an
[17:49] Speaker 4: army of Shiva's in two Shiva's are more there's a
[17:53] Speaker 4: bunch of Shiva's. But Shiva is basically the Ice goddess
[17:55] Speaker 4: and she in Final Fasy ten. Her her signature movie
[17:57] Speaker 4: is always called Diamond Dust.
[17:59] Speaker 1: Yeah huh, and it was.
[18:01] Speaker 4: So it's just just everybody, including you, Diamond Look up
[18:05] Speaker 4: Diamond Dust Final Fantasy ten.
[18:07] Speaker 3: You it is.
[18:08] Speaker 1: That sounds like a Stevie Nick single Dust. Diamond Dust
[18:14] Speaker 1: Final Fantasy. It's so good.
[18:17] Speaker 2: Oh, I'm see. This is thank you for bringing the
[18:20] Speaker 2: video games into the sea.
[18:22] Speaker 1: So you're a big you're a big gamer.
[18:24] Speaker 4: I and we just came out from Japan and my
[18:29] Speaker 4: whole fucking thing there was just going to the Final
[18:32] Speaker 4: Fantasy Cafe by myself it was God, it makes me
[18:36] Speaker 4: so happy.
[18:36] Speaker 2: It's like the best thing of all time. What are
[18:38] Speaker 2: you playing now? I'm playing Marvel Rivals, A lot of
[18:40] Speaker 2: Marvel Rivals. I love Marvel Rivals. I play Smash Brothers
[18:45] Speaker 2: a ridiculous right now separ off King Lucas and Megan man.
[18:53] Speaker 1: Math.
[18:54] Speaker 2: Well, you know I play like I play like I
[18:57] Speaker 2: want to say weekly about ten twelve hours a week.
[19:02] Speaker 2: What time?
[19:03] Speaker 1: You know It's the way I decompressed. Okay with him,
[19:06] Speaker 1: he was always play video games.
[19:08] Speaker 2: After they have like a blue a bunch of stuff.
[19:09] Speaker 2: I'm like, just give me like two hour a second,
[19:11] Speaker 2: just like, but where's where's Andy in this moment?
[19:14] Speaker 1: See?
[19:14] Speaker 2: So you know that was a big thing in a
[19:15] Speaker 2: relationship because you know, I will say Andy's more of
[19:18] Speaker 2: a codependent person.
[19:19] Speaker 1: I'm independent.
[19:21] Speaker 2: Like I let me say, after college, I did not
[19:23] Speaker 2: have any fucking roommates. I worked my asshole so I
[19:25] Speaker 2: can live by myself and not have any roommates ever,
[19:27] Speaker 2: because I was just I lived with like three straight
[19:29] Speaker 2: guys in college and it was awful.
[19:31] Speaker 1: One of them was Scott Blessed blessed you.
[19:33] Speaker 2: Scott. Scott was a man, was hair on every inch
[19:36] Speaker 2: of his body and we were in the kind gets
[19:39] Speaker 2: all over girl in the back and you know, shrit guys,
[19:41] Speaker 2: they don't clean.
[19:41] Speaker 1: But I was like, I did not want to live
[19:43] Speaker 1: with any anyone ever.
[19:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, so so yeah, so when we got to when
[19:47] Speaker 2: we got together, he was the first person I had
[19:48] Speaker 2: lived with since college.
[19:50] Speaker 1: And we also moved fast. We moved in together at
[19:53] Speaker 1: seven months. Girl, superic lesbian scortab you just travel after
[20:03] Speaker 1: speed of light as a lesbian.
[20:07] Speaker 2: Space so and then so my perfect in a perfect
[20:11] Speaker 2: world for me, how we're spending time. We're in the
[20:14] Speaker 2: same house together, occupying the same space differently. You're in
[20:16] Speaker 2: your room, I'm in my room. I think that's great.
[20:19] Speaker 2: And he wants to be right here next to me
[20:21] Speaker 2: on the couch, and I'm like, he's one of those.
[20:23] Speaker 2: He's one of those.
[20:24] Speaker 3: So one thing is that there has to be separate bathrooms. Absolutely, Okay,
[20:29] Speaker 3: I just want to test some checkouts. Separate separate bathroom,
[20:32] Speaker 3: separate closets.
[20:33] Speaker 1: So you really did get it all I did.
[20:36] Speaker 2: I had the honesty closet and the bathrooms and I
[20:38] Speaker 2: think that's all my thing. And he's downstairs, thank you.
[20:41] Speaker 4: That is that should be normal if you have if
[20:44] Speaker 4: you are lucky enough to have that be the arrangement.
[20:47] Speaker 3: Yeah, edible arrangement if you can, it's the most edible
[20:50] Speaker 3: arrangement out of all the arrangements. I'd say it's the
[20:52] Speaker 3: most edible. We have to ask you the central question
[21:01] Speaker 3: of our podcast. Yes, I feel like you are third
[21:04] Speaker 3: co host energy, But I this way. When I was
[21:06] Speaker 3: on Morning Talks, I was like, oh I remember, I
[21:08] Speaker 3: was like it's over. When they said it was time
[21:11] Speaker 3: to go, I was like I could talk forever. Of course,
[21:13] Speaker 3: what was the culture that made you say culture was
[21:16] Speaker 3: for you? This is the central question of lost culture,
[21:18] Speaker 3: and we put it to you now on exchange.
[21:20] Speaker 2: For me, it is unequivocally that's so raven. Oh okay,
[21:26] Speaker 2: that's so raven. Like the way that that show was
[21:31] Speaker 2: literally a cultural recess was dope like before, like you know,
[21:34] Speaker 2: because in that same era we had Sweet Life as
[21:36] Speaker 2: I Can, Coady, Liza Maguire, all those things. She was
[21:39] Speaker 2: the first, it was the first black girl let sitcom,
[21:41] Speaker 2: and she was a little ficker and Raven was allowed
[21:44] Speaker 2: to be funny, crazy. Her physical comedy was unmatched. She
[21:48] Speaker 2: was giving the best comedic performance on right. Absolutely, Yes,
[21:54] Speaker 2: I should put all these characters. She was a psychic
[21:55] Speaker 2: all this stuff, and like I just thought, like seeing
[21:58] Speaker 2: Raven Baxter on my screen, all the different characters, she
[22:02] Speaker 2: was like very like Martinez or jamboxets playing all these
[22:04] Speaker 2: different characters Anne Murphy's type shit, and she was just
[22:07] Speaker 2: and also not even that Raven simone like you look fast,
[22:11] Speaker 2: you rewind fifteen years before that she was doing on
[22:13] Speaker 2: the Cosby Show. So Raven has always been on the
[22:15] Speaker 2: cutting edge of like really this like sitcom TV show
[22:19] Speaker 2: space yea, like ushering this new era and normalizing the
[22:22] Speaker 2: experience of black folks living and being like stars. Yeah,
[22:24] Speaker 2: so that's what Raven was after me, Doctor Little too,
[22:27] Speaker 2: Doctor Dolittle too, because they knew.
[22:29] Speaker 3: They had someone who could do anything anything, Yah, do
[22:32] Speaker 3: anything like when you when you talk about it being
[22:35] Speaker 3: like akin to all of those things of the past,
[22:38] Speaker 3: it's because they were like, we have an opportunity in
[22:41] Speaker 3: this talent to throw any kind of sketch situation, any
[22:45] Speaker 3: kind of thing at this person.
[22:46] Speaker 1: And you do not see that. Now you don't see that,
[22:49] Speaker 1: And it is a little bit like she was a kid,
[22:51] Speaker 1: et cetera.
[22:52] Speaker 3: Like you know, we now look at like being a
[22:54] Speaker 3: child actor differently in terms of how much they should work.
[22:57] Speaker 3: But the thing is like that type of personality doesn't
[23:01] Speaker 3: even really exist anymore, Yeah.
[23:03] Speaker 2: Because there aren't showcases for it anymore. Right, Yeah, It's like, well,
[23:06] Speaker 2: it's like why can't we have that, Like why like
[23:08] Speaker 2: like surely the talent isn't gone. There is no kid
[23:11] Speaker 2: out there who has that same breadth of like talent,
[23:13] Speaker 2: but where it gets.
[23:15] Speaker 4: Lost in the sauce of like social media stuff now
[23:18] Speaker 4: like there really aren't like like what's what's what's been
[23:22] Speaker 4: the last big like Disney Channel slash Nick show, Like
[23:25] Speaker 4: they're just there aren't those things except like High School Musical,
[23:28] Speaker 4: the series that whatever.
[23:30] Speaker 3: I guess like if you attach that to it, then
[23:33] Speaker 3: like you could say Olivia Rodrigo, but then she wasn't
[23:36] Speaker 3: like famous for being on that show.
[23:38] Speaker 1: She became a superstar as a result of that song.
[23:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, the song.
[23:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, So it is hard to say. Yeah, I don't
[23:44] Speaker 1: think does Disney do they still do original shows like that?
[23:46] Speaker 1: I can't.
[23:46] Speaker 2: I can't name one or like have we aged out
[23:49] Speaker 2: as we just don't know. But I still watch cartoons.
[23:50] Speaker 2: I love Avatar last Yeah.
[23:52] Speaker 3: I mean listen, I feel like if if there was
[23:55] Speaker 3: a personality that like existed like that, we would know it.
[23:58] Speaker 1: I would also point out who was like that.
[24:01] Speaker 2: I want to say Amanda Vines as well. He's the man, She's.
[24:08] Speaker 1: Gender is construct whatever.
[24:10] Speaker 2: Showed the Amanda show like iconic, like Raven and Raven
[24:13] Speaker 2: and Amanda they were like they were, they were they
[24:16] Speaker 2: were paying the bills over there and at Disney for.
[24:20] Speaker 1: Well, like my dad was always like, this girl is
[24:23] Speaker 1: the funniest person on television. I was like, she is, yeah,
[24:26] Speaker 1: so good.
[24:27] Speaker 2: Favorite that's the Raven episode, the one when she they're
[24:31] Speaker 2: in the store with the mall and I think she
[24:33] Speaker 2: get the premonition or the future of someone stealing something
[24:37] Speaker 2: or something like that, and they have and she's like
[24:39] Speaker 2: trying to stop Orlando Brown, which she's what what what's
[24:45] Speaker 2: what's She's not well, she's not well okay yeah. And
[24:52] Speaker 2: then like Chelsea, which oh my god, she was also
[24:54] Speaker 2: a great actress to and she is great.
[24:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, she she was.
[24:58] Speaker 2: She was also really a great timing and stuff like
[25:01] Speaker 2: these kids, I'm like, well, y'all were really y'all were
[25:03] Speaker 2: in theater and stuff as kids.
[25:04] Speaker 1: No, well, no, no, we were. He did theater and
[25:08] Speaker 1: I was like sports sports sports worst. I was more
[25:10] Speaker 1: of Andy short mask he was any short No.
[25:14] Speaker 4: I there were the kids who did like community theater
[25:17] Speaker 4: where you went, fuck yeah, they're they're living.
[25:20] Speaker 1: You were weaponized in a way they can't do it,
[25:23] Speaker 1: but it was. I always wanted to become like a
[25:26] Speaker 1: little theater weapon. Yeah, but there was no runway for me.
[25:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, I was, I was. I was doing sketchers.
[25:32] Speaker 2: I was being made to fun. I was being made
[25:34] Speaker 2: fun of them. Oh yeah, I was find opera.
[25:37] Speaker 1: So I was this chubby little black boy in middle school.
[25:40] Speaker 2: I went to Marine Park Junior High School, the third
[25:42] Speaker 2: worst middle school in New York City. In Marine Park
[25:47] Speaker 2: like so bad, Like in middle school sixtheven and eighth
[25:49] Speaker 2: gradey they would have like cop cars lined out of
[25:51] Speaker 2: the school to get it to corrals onto the buses.
[25:54] Speaker 2: But like seventh grade, I had been jumped like five
[25:56] Speaker 2: times because I was just a bitch. I've always got
[26:00] Speaker 2: to walk like that fee duck. I've always had a
[26:01] Speaker 2: thick old booty walking around. Always makes fun of me
[26:03] Speaker 2: for the ship and then so like I would always
[26:07] Speaker 2: make fun of me. But as all quair kids do,
[26:08] Speaker 2: I found comfort and joy in chorus, Honey me go
[26:12] Speaker 2: to the chorus. I was one of the three boys
[26:14] Speaker 2: in chorus, and I had a low voice, like I
[26:16] Speaker 2: started growing facial hair in like seventh grade. So I
[26:18] Speaker 2: was like, could be becau sing the low notes and yeah.
[26:23] Speaker 2: And then after that, my teacher was like, you know what,
[26:25] Speaker 2: you should audition one of those high schools in the city.
[26:27] Speaker 2: I was like, oh, there's like audition high school. She's like, yeah,
[26:30] Speaker 2: there's a local audio's ppa. Yes, there's the one in
[26:33] Speaker 2: Queens of Frank Sinatra, all those ones. I was like, okay.
[26:35] Speaker 2: So I literally they treated like a fucking American idol
[26:39] Speaker 2: of this ship. You stand, you line, you line up
[26:42] Speaker 2: outside the school. You get a number on a cold
[26:45] Speaker 2: New York City morning, and you're eating your bacon and
[26:48] Speaker 2: cheese and line trying to do you a little scale
[26:50] Speaker 2: also warm up and you do like a sight singing
[26:53] Speaker 2: little scale the.
[26:54] Speaker 1: Sight sing You have the sight sing at the tender
[26:57] Speaker 1: age of thirteen fifteen.
[26:59] Speaker 2: Yes, girl, and you do that. And then my audition
[27:02] Speaker 2: song was flying without Wings by Rubs.
[27:04] Speaker 1: Better And that's the joy of rings, And that's the
[27:09] Speaker 1: joy of rings. That is the joy of rings. He
[27:16] Speaker 1: was so good, but he was so good, right good,
[27:20] Speaker 1: It was good, was good. Kimberly Lock was better, was
[27:24] Speaker 1: the one, and Trenise was my girl.
[27:27] Speaker 3: I love Kimberly Lock sang Somewhere of the Rainbow three
[27:31] Speaker 3: different times in the same she said, you remember this one,
[27:38] Speaker 3: always say somewhere somewhere.
[27:41] Speaker 2: And then Clayvey came is he like a politician now?
[27:43] Speaker 1: He tried, yeah, yeah, did you just audition for pd
[27:49] Speaker 1: A s.
[27:49] Speaker 2: The audition for LaGuardia and PSK Sinatra And I got
[27:53] Speaker 2: into I'm sorry and Talent Limited, which I know Talent
[27:55] Speaker 2: Limited is still over here.
[27:56] Speaker 1: It was on the limited Talent Unlimited.
[28:01] Speaker 2: Limited Talent, and I got into PPAs Tamma Talent Ulimited
[28:07] Speaker 2: and Span Sinatra, but LaGuardia said no, thank you.
[28:09] Speaker 4: So what was the feeling because you can talk about
[28:12] Speaker 4: it now it's been enough to yeah, yeah, for sure.
[28:14] Speaker 4: What was the feeling of going to PPS knowing that
[28:15] Speaker 4: Laguardi was just up the street?
[28:17] Speaker 2: Okay? You know, so like literally it's literally like what
[28:20] Speaker 2: fifteen blocks literally up on the same avenue off the
[28:23] Speaker 2: street on the on the west side, west side. You're
[28:26] Speaker 2: on the west side, and you know, I mean at first,
[28:28] Speaker 2: you like I didn't get into the fame school, I
[28:30] Speaker 2: didn't get into Leguardia, but like I really, I really
[28:33] Speaker 2: do feel like everything happens for a reason. Yes, And
[28:35] Speaker 2: because I went to PPAs, we had a miss write
[28:39] Speaker 2: name was Chhanta, right, and she was really big on like,
[28:41] Speaker 2: I know, y'all kids like y'all R and B and
[28:43] Speaker 2: your hip hop, but y'all gonna learn some culture in
[28:44] Speaker 2: this motherfucking so she would like, so she would introduce
[28:48] Speaker 2: us to opera and anthems and spirituals and stuff like that.
[28:50] Speaker 2: And we we were part of this, like touring choir
[28:52] Speaker 2: the Songs of Solomon and we would tour on spring
[28:55] Speaker 2: break and midwinter break, we would go on tours to
[28:58] Speaker 2: Canada around the state and like she was really instrumental
[29:01] Speaker 2: and introducing me to opera. So that's why from her,
[29:03] Speaker 2: I was like, maybe I came to opera. And I
[29:05] Speaker 2: went to Westminster Aquard College in Jersey for my degree
[29:09] Speaker 2: in music.
[29:10] Speaker 4: Head Yeah that's George. Yeah, and then you stuck around Bronx.
[29:15] Speaker 1: No, so I went to school there.
[29:17] Speaker 2: When I came back, I moved to Brooklyn, but went
[29:19] Speaker 2: back on to Brooklyn for a year and I got
[29:20] Speaker 2: my own place, and I lived in Brooklyn for two years,
[29:24] Speaker 2: and then then I moved to the Bronx.
[29:26] Speaker 1: And then were you doing the Bronx was so disgusting? Yeah? Yeah,
[29:29] Speaker 1: yeah it was the communities. It was weird. It was terrible.
[29:32] Speaker 2: But when I want to oh, so, when I finished that,
[29:34] Speaker 2: I taught at p S. One thirty at her nandaz
[29:37] Speaker 2: Desta School in the Lower East Side Theater, teaching music,
[29:43] Speaker 2: music teaching. I was like the little music teacher there.
[29:46] Speaker 2: And I did that for a year and a half
[29:48] Speaker 2: and I was like, this is awful. So I did
[29:50] Speaker 2: that and then I then I stang with Portland Opera
[29:53] Speaker 2: for two years and we're on summer break and I
[29:56] Speaker 2: was doing a young artist program here in the city
[29:58] Speaker 2: and then I met Jasmine Rice. Was it?
[29:59] Speaker 1: Yeah? I saw drafting that night.
[30:01] Speaker 2: Really. Hudson Williams. Yeah, yeah, I saw that. Oh my god,
[30:05] Speaker 2: I boughtus Hudson Williams looking person Gorge.
[30:09] Speaker 1: He's twenty five. I'm like, he's a whole ten years
[30:11] Speaker 1: younger than Yeah, twenty five. I know. It's okay, okay,
[30:16] Speaker 1: it's okay, that's sure.
[30:17] Speaker 2: It's okay.
[30:17] Speaker 1: It sounds like a perfect.
[30:21] Speaker 2: And it always on a summer break. And this is
[30:23] Speaker 2: when season three of Dragons was airing and Jason and
[30:25] Speaker 2: I connected over this love for drag race and we
[30:27] Speaker 2: were like, should we try to try doing drag So
[30:30] Speaker 2: we went to that this one they had the big
[30:31] Speaker 2: ass for our twenty one on Times Square and girl.
[30:34] Speaker 1: We went on our lunch break and we were shopping.
[30:35] Speaker 2: Like women, honey, just two big men in the women's section,
[30:39] Speaker 2: be like, y'all have this with a forty two yeah,
[30:42] Speaker 2: And then we tried on dresses and Forever twenty one
[30:44] Speaker 2: went to mac got like some ruby Woo lipstick and
[30:47] Speaker 2: like some foundation and literally got in dragon, went to
[30:50] Speaker 2: the Ritz and saw forty four and as do a
[30:53] Speaker 2: show there, and from that night on we were like, oh,
[30:55] Speaker 2: we're a bit by the buck, we're doing this, and
[30:57] Speaker 2: then we started doing We did Pride that year. We
[31:00] Speaker 2: walked the entire parade from fifty second Street down to
[31:03] Speaker 2: the West Village in like six inch heels like it
[31:06] Speaker 2: was crazy. It was, Oh, I love it, I loved it.
[31:09] Speaker 1: It was it was. It was the time of my life.
[31:11] Speaker 1: And did you enjast know each other from doing opera before?
[31:13] Speaker 2: No, that Young Artist program summer of twenty twelve with
[31:15] Speaker 2: the first time we've ever met.
[31:17] Speaker 1: We just happened to bounce into each other.
[31:18] Speaker 2: Og.
[31:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, And she's such an amazing signing. She's an amazing
[31:21] Speaker 1: both of you are.
[31:21] Speaker 2: I think I so love her voice, beautifully voice. But
[31:25] Speaker 2: when I started doing drag, I was still working because
[31:28] Speaker 2: I I was on summer break and I was working
[31:30] Speaker 2: at the Holiday in Express at JFK. I had told
[31:34] Speaker 2: my boss. I was like, I'm going to be late
[31:36] Speaker 2: for Pride. Because I was doing Pride. I was I'm
[31:38] Speaker 2: going to be a little late. And I'm like in
[31:40] Speaker 2: my Suzuki Grand Vatara leaving Pride, driving down the Biqui
[31:45] Speaker 2: and I was using duct tape to cinch my waist.
[31:47] Speaker 2: So I'm in the car like removing my makeup, trying
[31:50] Speaker 2: to take my my my pads and shit all wine
[31:53] Speaker 2: driving and I take the ducty to rip it off,
[31:55] Speaker 2: and I rip off a chunk of my skin the
[31:57] Speaker 2: size of like a.
[31:59] Speaker 1: Sack of This is another short film you guys both have.
[32:04] Speaker 2: Because I was like, I'm like, oh my god, and
[32:06] Speaker 2: I was like I have to go to work. And
[32:07] Speaker 2: I get to work. I kind of half dragged, half half.
[32:10] Speaker 1: A stud on.
[32:10] Speaker 2: He was like, you're fired, fired.
[32:13] Speaker 1: I got fired.
[32:14] Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh he was such a homophone, that guy. He he,
[32:17] Speaker 2: he did not like that. It came to that there
[32:19] Speaker 2: bleeding fired and bleeding and half drag when, oh my.
[32:24] Speaker 1: God, this is incredible. Was when was Barracuda.
[32:27] Speaker 2: Barracuda started.
[32:29] Speaker 1: So I was like work.
[32:31] Speaker 2: After that job, I got a job at the Yale
[32:32] Speaker 2: Club of New York City, which is a very high
[32:34] Speaker 2: problem luv in Dartmouth, and I was doing that. It
[32:37] Speaker 2: was my first like union job. I was making like
[32:41] Speaker 2: thirty dollars an hour. I was living be the loco.
[32:44] Speaker 2: So I'm doing that. And then at that point I
[32:48] Speaker 2: was still like going out randomly New York here and there,
[32:50] Speaker 2: going out to a club here, no gigs. And then
[32:52] Speaker 2: I had picked up like one gig at the Phoenix
[32:55] Speaker 2: Bar in the Lower East Side, Like Phoenix, is she
[32:58] Speaker 2: still here with me?
[32:59] Speaker 1: She's still I think she is. If she is, we
[33:02] Speaker 1: haven't seen her. Maybe I did, like a year and
[33:05] Speaker 1: a half stumble into the Phoenix. I think I might
[33:08] Speaker 1: have like isn't this funny?
[33:10] Speaker 2: Like So I was doing that, became friends and Bob,
[33:14] Speaker 2: and Bob was like, you need to quit your job
[33:16] Speaker 2: at Yale Club. I was like why, He's like, Wana,
[33:18] Speaker 2: I think you really have talent to be really great
[33:20] Speaker 2: in drag. If you've on doing half measures, you never
[33:22] Speaker 2: succeeded anything.
[33:23] Speaker 1: Well, come on, Bob, I know.
[33:25] Speaker 2: I was like a girl, I have a union job,
[33:27] Speaker 2: like I have like benefits, I have health insurance. You
[33:29] Speaker 2: dirty drag quins and you hurt yourself. You can't pay
[33:31] Speaker 2: for your health insurance. I can pay for my ship,
[33:34] Speaker 2: did you know?
[33:35] Speaker 1: I was like what? And then like literally two weeks later,
[33:38] Speaker 1: I was like, I think he's right, and I just
[33:39] Speaker 1: quit my job. Whoa.
[33:40] Speaker 2: And then I just wore full time in drag and
[33:43] Speaker 2: then one thing led to another. Then I got one gig,
[33:45] Speaker 2: then two gigs, and three gigs, and then by a
[33:47] Speaker 2: year after I quit that job, I had like seven
[33:50] Speaker 2: gigs over like five days.
[33:51] Speaker 3: In the years you were the girl very fair. This
[33:55] Speaker 3: is this is like when we were really out a
[33:58] Speaker 3: lot in like our midt.
[34:00] Speaker 1: And like we would go to see Bob. Yeah, you
[34:02] Speaker 1: would host watch parties. Yeah, watch parties.
[34:04] Speaker 4: Come to the watch parties in the host and I
[34:06] Speaker 4: was like, yeah, like our local girls keep like moving
[34:09] Speaker 4: it up.
[34:10] Speaker 3: I would see Alexus We did a show with Alexis
[34:15] Speaker 3: really yeah. What was the show is called drag Court.
[34:18] Speaker 3: Drag Court and the judge and I was Ruby Rue
[34:24] Speaker 3: was the judge.
[34:26] Speaker 1: And it was all and who was against. It's like
[34:29] Speaker 1: up against like Bible Girl.
[34:30] Speaker 3: I want to say Bible girls did the show Bible
[34:34] Speaker 3: My whole was the snugger for I never spoke.
[34:38] Speaker 1: Those were God we were really I love about those,
[34:41] Speaker 1: like I just I loved all of that ship.
[34:44] Speaker 2: What we were doing, you know what I mean?
[34:46] Speaker 1: And and really no one can Joe and I talk about.
[34:50] Speaker 1: We used to do this filthy lip sync dance duo
[34:53] Speaker 1: which was like we were just like whores.
[34:54] Speaker 3: We just want underwear and like drew makeup all over
[34:56] Speaker 3: our face and we were called sluck, were slut and.
[34:59] Speaker 1: Flat and fun.
[35:00] Speaker 3: We were there to be a months where the entire
[35:02] Speaker 3: Google cow was just okay, Thursday, Saturday.
[35:06] Speaker 1: We were yeah.
[35:07] Speaker 3: And there was one time when we realized like it
[35:10] Speaker 3: was over when we looked out into the crowd and
[35:12] Speaker 3: there was one person.
[35:13] Speaker 1: It was our friend Amanda by the vines. She doesn't
[35:20] Speaker 1: know about fuck.
[35:21] Speaker 2: Ritz Crack and I. We did a show together at
[35:23] Speaker 2: on at Hardware Barns Sundays. We'll turn it on Sundays
[35:26] Speaker 2: and like, this is what I think the girls in
[35:28] Speaker 2: New York. Well, what I've heard is that girls aren't
[35:31] Speaker 2: interested in like growing shows anymore. Like they they started
[35:34] Speaker 2: doing dragging their living rooms and they're like, well, my
[35:36] Speaker 2: my booking feats one hundred fifty dollars and blah bla
[35:38] Speaker 2: blah blah blah.
[35:38] Speaker 1: I was like, no, what crack, And I started that
[35:39] Speaker 1: show what turning on Sundays. I'm not kidding.
[35:42] Speaker 2: They would be sometimes maybe two people in the audience,
[35:45] Speaker 2: one drunk lesbian and one guy sleep asleep in the
[35:48] Speaker 2: back corner name ru Paul, just to sleep, not paying
[35:52] Speaker 2: any attention to us.
[35:53] Speaker 1: But we did the show.
[35:54] Speaker 2: We did our thing, and we grew it and grew
[35:56] Speaker 2: it and by the time we were like, but right
[35:58] Speaker 2: before we left because we couldn't do because of drag race,
[36:00] Speaker 2: because we were traveling and stuff, we had built a
[36:02] Speaker 2: show of people would come out to you on somedings
[36:03] Speaker 2: and we like packed the bar up. But I'm like,
[36:05] Speaker 2: you gotta just you gotta work, like work for that ship.
[36:08] Speaker 4: And then once you say, like you like learned so
[36:10] Speaker 4: many things from just being in the room in the
[36:12] Speaker 4: same space.
[36:13] Speaker 2: Yes, yes, like you know, I didn't like have traditional
[36:17] Speaker 2: stand up comedy, like I was going to the cellar
[36:19] Speaker 2: and doing all the like you know how Mateo and
[36:20] Speaker 2: Nicole and all these people do.
[36:21] Speaker 1: Have so much respect I have done because it is hard.
[36:25] Speaker 2: It's really hard.
[36:26] Speaker 1: And Mateo would talk a lot too about being like
[36:28] Speaker 1: the only GIY guy and like how tough that was,
[36:30] Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
[36:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, So I kind of did mine in my own
[36:33] Speaker 2: way by coming up in drag and like performing for
[36:36] Speaker 2: two and three people and like doing bits and throughout.
[36:38] Speaker 2: Four years ago, my agent was like, hey, Comedy Dynamics,
[36:41] Speaker 2: they want to do special before different queens. I was
[36:44] Speaker 2: like special, Like well, he's like comedy specialist. He's like,
[36:46] Speaker 2: you're interested. I was like, well, I'm not a stand
[36:47] Speaker 2: up comedian. He's like, well, yeah you are. I was
[36:49] Speaker 2: like I'm not. And he was like, I've gone to
[36:52] Speaker 2: your shows. I used to see New York before. I
[36:54] Speaker 2: was like, you are a stand up comedian. You just
[36:55] Speaker 2: not calling yourself. And I was like I don't know.
[36:58] Speaker 2: He's like doing your favorite Just sit down for week,
[37:00] Speaker 2: try to write some material, see where you get, and
[37:03] Speaker 2: then let's talk after that so I like to like
[37:04] Speaker 2: a week off of work, and I was just like
[37:06] Speaker 2: at home, like writing bits, going over material. I was like,
[37:08] Speaker 2: I think I have like an hour here of comedy.
[37:11] Speaker 2: That next week he booked me at the brea improv.
[37:13] Speaker 2: I did a brain improv, sold it out, did a
[37:15] Speaker 2: really good job, and then this is what I don't love.
[37:18] Speaker 2: The next week I recorded a special, which is not
[37:20] Speaker 2: what you do. Oh I could, I didn't know that.
[37:23] Speaker 2: So I recorded my first special ever after literally doing
[37:26] Speaker 2: the material for literally one week, right, and so it's fine.
[37:30] Speaker 2: But now I've worked on this new hour for the
[37:32] Speaker 2: past two years. This material is so fucking funny. It
[37:35] Speaker 2: is at such a good place. I'm so happy for
[37:37] Speaker 2: people to come see it and like these comed clothes
[37:39] Speaker 2: and they booked me and I come and at the
[37:40] Speaker 2: weekend they're like, wow, that was really good, And I'm like,
[37:45] Speaker 2: what were you expected?
[37:47] Speaker 3: I know, like, you're not someone who does the thing
[37:49] Speaker 3: where you don't work your fucking house show up like
[37:52] Speaker 3: that was an anomoly.
[37:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, what are you? Like, what are
[37:54] Speaker 2: these girls coming when they're doing here at these clothes?
[37:57] Speaker 2: So anyway, but I'm happy that it is working out well.
[38:00] Speaker 2: And this new hour is so beautiful and with.
[38:02] Speaker 1: It our knees gendered to you.
[38:06] Speaker 3: Because because you and we talked about how your feet,
[38:08] Speaker 3: you got foot feminization, uh, pediatric feminization, surgery podiatric okay.
[38:15] Speaker 1: Not cyminization. I mean you went to a pediatrist.
[38:22] Speaker 2: I was, well, he's not a p diiaturs. Oh sorry,
[38:24] Speaker 2: he is a pediatrist. But my friend who was a surgeon,
[38:26] Speaker 2: said I should have went to ah the orthopedic orthopedic surgeon.
[38:30] Speaker 4: Hey, I was gonna say foot doctor doctor. You said
[38:33] Speaker 4: Andy has gargwoll feet.
[38:36] Speaker 2: That I think Andy has very beautiful feet. And I
[38:38] Speaker 2: posted it on our Patreon.
[38:39] Speaker 1: And you posted his foot to patriot.
[38:44] Speaker 3: No.
[38:44] Speaker 1: No, I stuck a figure.
[38:49] Speaker 2: He was like, and he has pretty feet, so pretty,
[38:55] Speaker 2: it's pretty.
[38:56] Speaker 3: I mean he like he is a different man now
[38:59] Speaker 3: than he He pops up on my grid and I'm like, okay.
[39:04] Speaker 2: You know he still has some straight tendencies. We're trying
[39:06] Speaker 2: to beat them out of him for the most part. Like, okay,
[39:11] Speaker 2: this also, I recognize that I may have a tinge
[39:14] Speaker 2: of OCD.
[39:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I think you're probably not alone here. Okay, yeah,
[39:20] Speaker 1: So like, but as game and I feel like that's
[39:22] Speaker 1: kind of a default factory setting. It's a gay power.
[39:24] Speaker 2: It's a gay power. And Andy's late to the game.
[39:27] Speaker 2: He doesn't see these things. So I am constant he
[39:29] Speaker 2: does this thing. He got a fucking ninja creamy for Christmas.
[39:33] Speaker 1: Like a mixer.
[39:35] Speaker 2: It basically takes you can put anything inside of it
[39:37] Speaker 2: and it can turn it into an ice cream or
[39:39] Speaker 2: a sword bat ninja creamy.
[39:40] Speaker 1: But I am happy thinking about it. A ninja creamy.
[39:47] Speaker 1: It's so good.
[39:48] Speaker 2: It's kind of like a nutrient bullet, but like for
[39:49] Speaker 2: making ice cream. And so he is this thing. He
[39:53] Speaker 2: makes all the disorbeys. He puts him the thing. He'll
[39:56] Speaker 2: pick one out of the out of the freezer, take
[39:58] Speaker 2: the lid off, put the lid on the counter, and leave,
[40:04] Speaker 2: and then you just have a dirty ice school on
[40:06] Speaker 2: the counter. I'm like, when literally the sink, this is lid,
[40:10] Speaker 2: the sink is right here. I would they just take
[40:12] Speaker 2: it and put into sin.
[40:13] Speaker 1: One time lids on the counter. It's coachure number twenty
[40:17] Speaker 1: on the counter.
[40:18] Speaker 2: Like one time our clean lady left at like five o'clock.
[40:21] Speaker 2: I walked downstairs and at five o five there's a
[40:24] Speaker 2: dirty lid on the counter. I said, what is this
[40:26] Speaker 2: lid doing on the count? I was like, Andy, get
[40:28] Speaker 2: out here right now and wash this lid and put
[40:31] Speaker 2: it away.
[40:31] Speaker 1: And does he do it in shame?
[40:32] Speaker 5: Yes?
[40:33] Speaker 1: You watch him?
[40:34] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[40:34] Speaker 1: You just I sit there and I'm gonna Avid make
[40:37] Speaker 1: the bed every morning.
[40:37] Speaker 2: There's nothing better to me than coming back home and
[40:40] Speaker 2: just getting in a nice made bed.
[40:42] Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
[40:43] Speaker 3: There is no excuse for your bed not to be made.
[40:47] Speaker 3: And I will full on go over to friends homes
[40:50] Speaker 3: and they allow me to come in the home when
[40:52] Speaker 3: the bed isn't made, Pillows on the ground, close on
[40:54] Speaker 3: the ground.
[40:58] Speaker 1: I don't want to see it.
[40:59] Speaker 2: And I'm judging every time I'm judging. I am judging you.
[41:02] Speaker 1: Did you talk?
[41:03] Speaker 2: I don't top sheet, I don't top. I don't Yeah
[41:06] Speaker 2: that top she that's that's that's a step too far.
[41:08] Speaker 1: That's a step too far, because then you got a
[41:09] Speaker 1: straighten map. Yeah, it's.
[41:12] Speaker 2: That's I don't need the top sheet now. I recently
[41:14] Speaker 2: started well, I was into dou Vets. That was ordered
[41:17] Speaker 2: over because I watched like every I try every week,
[41:20] Speaker 2: Let's be honest, every two weeks is fine.
[41:22] Speaker 1: Every two And then.
[41:23] Speaker 2: I'm like redoing the duvet was like, I was like,
[41:25] Speaker 2: I just it's such a to do. So now we
[41:27] Speaker 2: just have like three different comforters. We just rotate, we
[41:29] Speaker 2: we we vacuums steal the ones to know she's the
[41:32] Speaker 2: one that we're doing. It feels like you're you're going
[41:34] Speaker 2: cave diving.
[41:36] Speaker 1: I still don't know what what the good plan of
[41:40] Speaker 1: attackers supposed.
[41:41] Speaker 4: To turn it inside out, line it up, do the
[41:43] Speaker 4: roll right. People are nodding and then put take the
[41:46] Speaker 4: laby in and then put it Truly, I get that,
[41:51] Speaker 4: but that doesn't like a menace in the sheets underneath.
[41:55] Speaker 3: Like, let's go on, does you got you gotta pose
[41:59] Speaker 3: whatever TV show or podcast listening literally to focus on exactly.
[42:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't do it. I've had anxious fits about it.
[42:06] Speaker 1: I'm like I can't.
[42:08] Speaker 2: It's like why, yeah, why.
[42:10] Speaker 1: So like little things like that.
[42:11] Speaker 2: I'm still like nursing, you know, turning lit on.
[42:13] Speaker 3: The counter is a big no no. And all the
[42:16] Speaker 3: points you just gained for that proposal andy out, some
[42:21] Speaker 3: of them have gone out. You're still You're still and
[42:24] Speaker 3: he's always up?
[42:26] Speaker 1: Really is he? Would you call him? Wait?
[42:29] Speaker 3: Did you did you abob to talk about this is
[42:31] Speaker 3: he like a fitness influencer. Now you think he's trying
[42:34] Speaker 3: to be, but like, let's it happened. He has the
[42:36] Speaker 3: full time job doing his like recovery work. I'm like,
[42:38] Speaker 3: you don't have time to finish influence.
[42:40] Speaker 1: I think I think they work hand in him.
[42:42] Speaker 2: Well, you know, he he is.
[42:43] Speaker 1: His whole thing is that.
[42:44] Speaker 2: Well, you know, I gotta like keep on going on
[42:46] Speaker 2: all these expensive places with these I'm just trying to
[42:48] Speaker 2: keep up. I'm like, yeah, we'll keep up, bitch, Yeah,
[42:51] Speaker 2: get a third job, get a fourth one.
[42:54] Speaker 1: Do you get five?
[42:55] Speaker 2: Exactly?
[42:56] Speaker 1: Got five jobs coming out your ears? He's not doing enough.
[43:10] Speaker 2: They'll probably too big. Would you'll ever do the Traders?
[43:13] Speaker 1: Okay? This is this has come up like, this is
[43:15] Speaker 1: like the fourth time it's come up.
[43:16] Speaker 2: Well wait, but from someone from their show.
[43:19] Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely so this is the first time someone from
[43:21] Speaker 3: the show. We love the show, and we said, like,
[43:25] Speaker 3: what was it? Probably two years ago we said it.
[43:27] Speaker 3: We came on an episode all brave and we're like,
[43:30] Speaker 3: we'll do it.
[43:30] Speaker 1: Ask us to do it, please, we want.
[43:32] Speaker 2: To do it.
[43:33] Speaker 3: And then they asked, and I don't know about you,
[43:36] Speaker 3: but I personally thought about them editing me into a
[43:38] Speaker 3: character I thought about doing reality television for real and earnest.
[43:41] Speaker 1: And it made me very young. This is this is
[43:44] Speaker 1: what Joel can Booster says too. It's like the three
[43:45] Speaker 1: of us.
[43:46] Speaker 4: He's kind of like influenced us in this way where
[43:47] Speaker 4: it's like they you're handing over the edit to them,
[43:50] Speaker 4: you have no idea what they'll do.
[43:51] Speaker 1: Are you over that fear?
[43:53] Speaker 3: Now?
[43:53] Speaker 1: Like do you still have to see?
[43:54] Speaker 2: Yeah? Because what I've realized in the reality I've done,
[43:56] Speaker 2: I'm like, it really just amplifies who you are. I
[44:00] Speaker 2: think both of y'all are actually funny, good, it's nicely people.
[44:03] Speaker 2: I was like, so it is virtually impossible to turn
[44:06] Speaker 2: you into some like gargling monster because that's not who
[44:08] Speaker 2: y'all are.
[44:09] Speaker 1: Who sent you here? Who sent you people who go on.
[44:14] Speaker 2: TV and look like like Michael or what I'm saying.
[44:18] Speaker 1: Because it's like and I have to say, like, I
[44:21] Speaker 1: I wonder what you think about this?
[44:23] Speaker 3: Based on the reactions that people are earning now out
[44:26] Speaker 3: and about they feel very strong.
[44:29] Speaker 1: But I wonder, as someone who went.
[44:31] Speaker 3: Through it, how how are you feeling with everything has
[44:35] Speaker 3: shaken out in terms of the way people are being
[44:38] Speaker 3: received the way the game is going, like fallouts, like
[44:42] Speaker 3: where do you sit in.
[44:43] Speaker 1: All of it?
[44:44] Speaker 2: I does this come out after? What did this come out?
[44:47] Speaker 1: This is gonna come out not this Wednesday, but Wednesday after.
[44:52] Speaker 2: But I think that yesterday, okay, I think that for
[44:57] Speaker 2: the most part, what what happened but in the Castle
[45:00] Speaker 2: is what is showing Again, there's so many conversations, conversations
[45:03] Speaker 2: that happened that you don't know about, so something that
[45:06] Speaker 2: you steal on TV, like, oh, that that happened.
[45:07] Speaker 1: I didn't realize that happened.
[45:09] Speaker 2: But for the most part, I think like how people
[45:10] Speaker 2: were behaving the Castle are what they did, Like we
[45:12] Speaker 2: all knew Colton was playing an aggressive game, you know
[45:15] Speaker 2: what I mean? And I think the cons the consensus
[45:18] Speaker 2: online is that it's a bad strategy. I don't think
[45:20] Speaker 2: it's that bad. I think it's just playing hard. They're
[45:22] Speaker 2: just playing hard. And I'm like, I'd rather, honestly, I
[45:25] Speaker 2: radther Colton than a terrorpinske. What the hell is going on?
[45:30] Speaker 3: I'm rooting for them because if this last episode it's
[45:33] Speaker 3: like it's like the we're just like talking at the
[45:35] Speaker 3: round table about like okay, so the truth is we're
[45:39] Speaker 3: best friends, and so for that reason, I know he's
[45:41] Speaker 3: not a trainer.
[45:42] Speaker 2: It's just like, I'm like, my god, how brave of
[45:46] Speaker 2: Tara and Johnny to come out his friends.
[45:50] Speaker 1: Girl.
[45:50] Speaker 3: It's just also so funny too, because other people in
[45:52] Speaker 3: the house you can tell it's split from people being like, yeah,
[45:55] Speaker 3: I knew they were best friends, like I know the
[45:57] Speaker 3: terror Lepinske and Johnny weird thing, duh, and people that
[46:00] Speaker 3: are like they revealed best friends and that was the
[46:04] Speaker 3: worst thing you ever had, like Mark Ballast being like
[46:08] Speaker 3: they just really sign their death Warren, I'm like, I
[46:12] Speaker 3: don't know who I'm rooting for.
[46:13] Speaker 2: I guess I'm rooting for Maura for more. Okay, the
[46:16] Speaker 2: tea about Mara, I'm not kidding.
[46:17] Speaker 1: This is a fact.
[46:18] Speaker 2: She said it in the Castle. Maura had not watched
[46:22] Speaker 2: a single episode of the show before winning the Castle.
[46:25] Speaker 2: Maura had no idea they were banishments. Maura had no
[46:28] Speaker 2: idea people were getting murdered.
[46:29] Speaker 1: I Tank, someone's getting murdered. After the first night, she
[46:33] Speaker 1: was like, she was literally I think after the first
[46:35] Speaker 1: round table, I think, sorry, you're gonna go. I'm gonna go.
[46:42] Speaker 1: Sorry Oi oy Tank sings the kind of just is
[46:50] Speaker 1: gone shocked and stringe.
[46:53] Speaker 2: After the after the fort she got vanished. I'm not kidding.
[46:56] Speaker 2: We all were in the everyone's really upset, yes, and
[46:58] Speaker 2: we're all in the the kitchen and she goes, it's
[47:03] Speaker 2: just gonna happen every night, and I was like, are
[47:08] Speaker 2: you doing a bit like what's happened every day? More
[47:13] Speaker 2: just wanted to come on to even and wear beautiful clothes,
[47:15] Speaker 2: which she did. Think she's a stunning individual. There's frames
[47:19] Speaker 2: of the show where I'm like, what and that's her
[47:22] Speaker 2: in real life? Like Maura looks like that, like more
[47:25] Speaker 2: like she like she has beautiful, gorgeous skin. She wears
[47:28] Speaker 2: like a little a little a little baby cream and
[47:31] Speaker 2: I'm a scar of baby and she's like looking stunning.
[47:34] Speaker 1: They should do a watch a pack in for traders.
[47:36] Speaker 1: Oh that would be good.
[47:39] Speaker 2: There. Well, you know they reach out to a little
[47:43] Speaker 2: bird told me that they've reached out to like some
[47:44] Speaker 2: people do the show.
[47:45] Speaker 1: But a big deterrent is that you have to do
[47:47] Speaker 1: your own glam.
[47:50] Speaker 3: For you.
[47:51] Speaker 2: No no, no, not for me, but like for other people,
[47:53] Speaker 2: like are allegedly like they have they've asked he's doing
[47:55] Speaker 2: her own GLAMs money.
[47:58] Speaker 1: Okay, well man, crazy town. What what do you think
[48:02] Speaker 1: is going on with her hair? I think they're wig
[48:04] Speaker 1: thank you?
[48:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah, but the white goes up threads were like,
[48:07] Speaker 2: Maura is not where we're I'll like you think her
[48:09] Speaker 2: hair work, come on, booty legs overnight, they're wigs, girl.
[48:15] Speaker 3: One hat she had was pretty genius to all our hats,
[48:17] Speaker 3: all our hats. Everything she's wearing is fearce. I will
[48:20] Speaker 3: also shout out Candace and Rinna both looked incredible all
[48:23] Speaker 3: the time. I am a little bit like I kind
[48:25] Speaker 3: of can't have Tara and Johnny get like voted out
[48:28] Speaker 3: immediately because with Candace gun they are kind of Now
[48:31] Speaker 3: I'm watching why, I'm watching Candice leaving. I'm like, should
[48:35] Speaker 3: place of glory, but like I really want her to
[48:37] Speaker 3: go to the end. We're to Candace House, drive back
[48:40] Speaker 3: one Record of the Year. At the Cultural Awards, hear
[48:42] Speaker 3: the thing about Candace, right, does she come for you?
[48:45] Speaker 2: So when we had the thing and like Allen chose
[48:49] Speaker 2: chose the Traders, I was like in my mind, I
[48:51] Speaker 2: was like, I know, I just knew. I just said
[48:52] Speaker 2: to myself, I said, I know, Colton Natalie, jam Jam Portia,
[48:56] Speaker 2: and Candace. I'll say those those five, those are faithfuls.
[48:59] Speaker 2: I just feel like I just know that they are
[49:01] Speaker 2: because in this show, people like, well you can't trust
[49:02] Speaker 2: I'm like, in that game, if you don't trust people,
[49:04] Speaker 2: you have nothing.
[49:05] Speaker 1: You have to trust something based on exactly So.
[49:10] Speaker 2: I trusted Cannas and I said to her in the bar,
[49:12] Speaker 2: brought into the bar, no one was there. I was like, Canna, look,
[49:15] Speaker 2: I don't know if you're a faithful. I don't know
[49:17] Speaker 2: if you're a trader. You don't know if I'm a faithful.
[49:20] Speaker 2: You don't know if I'm a trader. But I'll tell
[49:21] Speaker 2: you this. If I'm a faithful, I will never bring
[49:23] Speaker 2: your name up at the roundtable. And if I'm a trader,
[49:25] Speaker 2: I will never say a name of the turret.
[49:26] Speaker 1: I just trust you. I want to go to the
[49:27] Speaker 1: end of the game with you. She's like, she was like,
[49:29] Speaker 1: I got you. You said me too.
[49:30] Speaker 2: The next day she when I was in the challenge
[49:33] Speaker 2: and I said, I think Lisa might be a trader.
[49:35] Speaker 1: Fuck you did? I said that to her.
[49:37] Speaker 2: But the thing is that these little passing conversations, like
[49:40] Speaker 2: you don't think anything of it. It's just literally like
[49:41] Speaker 2: a girl. I think Lisa's trader. It was literally that
[49:43] Speaker 2: quick and that could just be and that's the thing
[49:45] Speaker 2: that gets you out. So she told Lisa that night,
[49:47] Speaker 2: But I think her her flaw there was that Candace
[49:51] Speaker 2: was not arming herself with enough allies outside of the turret.
[49:54] Speaker 1: It was the winning strategy for Serie season one was
[49:57] Speaker 1: that she had so many als exactly playing Rob is
[50:00] Speaker 1: doing that.
[50:01] Speaker 2: Rob has so many allies outside the turrets, so he
[50:03] Speaker 2: doesn't have to have to trust Lise Arcana's because he
[50:06] Speaker 2: has and it's hire cast of people that he that
[50:08] Speaker 2: that he knows that would never wipe his name down.
[50:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, and also he has the benefit of being on
[50:13] Speaker 3: the right side of two Traders votes. I honestly, So,
[50:16] Speaker 3: this last episode just ended and it's Kristin Kish questioning
[50:20] Speaker 3: Eric and she's like, I feel like there's something weird
[50:22] Speaker 3: with Eric, and she tells Rob. I'm like, if I'm Rob,
[50:25] Speaker 3: I because they have the option to vote out Christ
[50:29] Speaker 3: to murder Kristen, I murder Natalie. Let Kristen keep spinning
[50:32] Speaker 3: on Eric and then turn around be like, you're right,
[50:34] Speaker 3: it is Eric, and then you vote out three traders.
[50:37] Speaker 1: Then no one is.
[50:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Rob if he plays this next episode
[50:43] Speaker 3: well and will be a little behind and when this
[50:45] Speaker 3: releases has its sewn up.
[50:47] Speaker 1: Rob is so excellent. Well, he was so quiet. I
[50:51] Speaker 1: think he was so quiet laughing at me. It's and
[50:55] Speaker 1: I don't even I'm not even crazy about wanting to
[50:57] Speaker 1: fuck him. Yeah, that's not what it's about. I think.
[51:00] Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
[51:00] Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, Rob is cute.
[51:01] Speaker 1: I'm like, but I am not. Oh no, oh my god.
[51:03] Speaker 2: People like Rob is so hot, just give me. I'm like,
[51:06] Speaker 2: he's cute.
[51:07] Speaker 1: I think he's incredible to look at. I'm not like,
[51:09] Speaker 1: whoa falling?
[51:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that fu But well, he's a very
[51:14] Speaker 2: sweet guy.
[51:15] Speaker 1: Though.
[51:15] Speaker 2: He's so sweet, and he was so quiet. I was like,
[51:19] Speaker 2: I just is this Alabama or is this just homeschool?
[51:21] Speaker 2: I didn't realize like why he was just you know
[51:25] Speaker 2: what I mean? And I was only there for what
[51:26] Speaker 2: five episodes? So and I form my time that I
[51:29] Speaker 2: thought I trusted him too. I was like, oh, I
[51:31] Speaker 2: think I think Rob is a is a.
[51:32] Speaker 1: Faithful you never he never crushed her.
[51:34] Speaker 2: Mind at all. When they're revealing that little digital content
[51:37] Speaker 2: afterwards and I was like, rob I knew Lisa, and
[51:41] Speaker 2: I was shocked by Robin Candice Lisa. Yeah, I knew
[51:44] Speaker 2: Lisa her after that murder in the thing which she
[51:47] Speaker 2: told Caroline, no, you won't see me at Bram. Yeah,
[51:52] Speaker 2: and that next morning we asked her to explain the thing.
[51:54] Speaker 2: She was so obviously just picking it out of her ass.
[51:57] Speaker 2: Well literally and.
[52:03] Speaker 1: MASKU is black black.
[52:06] Speaker 2: Exactly, So I was like, girl, like come on. So
[52:09] Speaker 2: that was when I was like, oh, List is a
[52:10] Speaker 2: trader for sure, and what a gag? Yeah you you
[52:16] Speaker 2: you got out being right, which my skill get Yeah,
[52:19] Speaker 2: but no, because you do not get around table. I
[52:22] Speaker 2: would rather I can fight for my life.
[52:24] Speaker 1: So you can get the drama of persecute, like I
[52:28] Speaker 1: want to, Like, I want to curse everybody out before
[52:30] Speaker 1: they like me. I want to. I want to fight
[52:32] Speaker 1: for myself. You know, you want a tribal council. Yeah exactly, Yes, yes, exactly.
[52:36] Speaker 3: You know who had a really good one last season
[52:38] Speaker 3: Sierra Miller. She was just like she went down like
[52:43] Speaker 3: a bad bitch, like she really really was good. Have
[52:45] Speaker 3: you are you guys watching? Do you watch Summerhouse? No?
[52:47] Speaker 1: Have you watched Summerhouse? Suse it's a thick season.
[52:51] Speaker 3: She's on it, and she's she's having an amazing season,
[52:54] Speaker 3: like she's she's really good.
[52:55] Speaker 1: Reality, what is her purpose of the summer house? Kind
[52:58] Speaker 1: of just you know, where a party in? Okay, that's it.
[53:01] Speaker 4: You You you see them go back to the city
[53:03] Speaker 4: during the week and they're doing their little day jobs,
[53:04] Speaker 4: and then it's every week and they go to the
[53:06] Speaker 4: summer Okay.
[53:07] Speaker 1: Got it.
[53:08] Speaker 2: Wait, so y'all answer the question. So you're on the
[53:11] Speaker 2: on the fence, you would.
[53:12] Speaker 4: I'm on the fence. I'm on the fence, would you?
[53:16] Speaker 4: Because I had to say no because I was shooting
[53:18] Speaker 4: a movie. God, so I couldn't do.
[53:19] Speaker 2: It that season.
[53:20] Speaker 1: I just you know what, I'm not in. No, I'm not.
[53:25] Speaker 3: They've also also it would be hard to do it
[53:27] Speaker 3: with certain people because the thing is like if we
[53:29] Speaker 3: went in.
[53:30] Speaker 1: Together, I feel like that's a Johnny and Terraces. Oh yeah,
[53:33] Speaker 1: for sure, but I mean everyone I know.
[53:36] Speaker 3: That's the thing is we would not be able to
[53:37] Speaker 3: take I'm not talking about them because I don't want
[53:40] Speaker 3: them to know.
[53:41] Speaker 1: We're very close, like the entire one could not hide that. No,
[53:46] Speaker 1: we can't. But I think but I think they're so like,
[53:48] Speaker 1: could you imagine Tiffany New York Pollar in this?
[53:51] Speaker 2: And that's what I've been awaiting. What is the big idea?
[53:55] Speaker 2: I think she every because she's done every season of
[53:57] Speaker 2: House of Villains. Yeah, they feel at the same time.
[53:59] Speaker 3: See whoever he is managing her in this regard needs
[54:02] Speaker 3: to toss the House of It's no shade to the
[54:04] Speaker 3: House of Villaine.
[54:05] Speaker 1: But Traders is a bigger show. Traders. Would we meet her, Yes,
[54:09] Speaker 1: it would cause a commotion.
[54:10] Speaker 2: It would be a Tiffany New York.
[54:16] Speaker 1: Gemma and Tiffany.
[54:17] Speaker 2: We always need just one brit just up in the castle.
[54:20] Speaker 2: Bring Jay mccollins.
[54:21] Speaker 1: Please, what what you have to imagine? There is a
[54:24] Speaker 1: list with these names on it.
[54:25] Speaker 2: I'm sure like Meanie Leaks needs to be at the
[54:28] Speaker 2: Roans and mean Less has given us Reality TV gold monologue.
[54:31] Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Celebrity of Princess with Nani Leeks.
[54:34] Speaker 2: Of course she was bullying LaToya Jackson and one time
[54:37] Speaker 2: she's literally standing over her and she's like, She's like,
[54:40] Speaker 2: that's why I go back at your age and not.
[54:42] Speaker 1: Twelve, and the LaToya looks at her and goes, you
[54:44] Speaker 1: mean all you have of me is hish I just
[54:46] Speaker 1: have a height with the th hi you just have
[54:51] Speaker 1: and it was their a whole love of word. Nani
[54:52] Speaker 1: was like bye ghost.
[54:56] Speaker 2: She was.
[54:58] Speaker 1: She was saying boot to a ghost, which doesn't really
[55:01] Speaker 1: make no good. He was remain it remains, remain.
[55:07] Speaker 3: Legend and it made me so happy. It's very much
[55:09] Speaker 3: that I do think so honey to me that they
[55:12] Speaker 3: figured it out so that she can come back, because
[55:16] Speaker 3: if you're gonna do retrospectives and it's within reason, because
[55:19] Speaker 3: for some people out there, I don't think it's within reason.
[55:21] Speaker 3: But I'm so thrilled that it was within reason for
[55:25] Speaker 3: Ninni and Andy to come back together and for people
[55:29] Speaker 3: like to get what they need so that this can
[55:32] Speaker 3: all happen.
[55:33] Speaker 2: Which means she's in good grace with Peacock, which could
[55:35] Speaker 2: be Peacock the traders some like cross my fingers ever
[55:38] Speaker 2: get the leaks on traders. At some point of course
[55:40] Speaker 2: we the part. I was just gonna say media and
[55:44] Speaker 2: I'm not doing my own glam.
[55:46] Speaker 1: But you don't think an exception could be made. You've
[55:49] Speaker 1: been on the inside.
[55:50] Speaker 2: Let me tell you something that show they care so
[55:53] Speaker 2: much about the integrity of the game they do not play.
[55:56] Speaker 2: Everything is in secrecy and they make sure that you
[55:59] Speaker 2: were really having the real experience day don't fuck around.
[56:02] Speaker 1: You can tell.
[56:02] Speaker 4: You can tell because the way you guys are treated
[56:05] Speaker 4: like someone's been killed exactly.
[56:07] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah yeah, And like I used to watch him
[56:09] Speaker 2: like these these celebrities need to get a live girl.
[56:12] Speaker 2: No one's really dying. Everyone calmed down the after Porsche.
[56:15] Speaker 2: I was like, we should have a usage.
[56:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really because you believe the reality that
[56:20] Speaker 1: you're in.
[56:20] Speaker 3: And by the way, like they do an amazing job
[56:23] Speaker 3: of creating atmosphere and Alan is so instant.
[56:27] Speaker 1: Can you talk about like how it feels to have
[56:30] Speaker 1: his theater in those moments?
[56:31] Speaker 2: Yes, so thank you, thank you for saying that Alan
[56:34] Speaker 2: is really I mean, he's a theater actor. Like Alan.
[56:36] Speaker 2: This is Alan's bad. Alan is doing his thing. Alan
[56:39] Speaker 2: is is He's so grand and so major, and he's
[56:42] Speaker 2: so presentational and everything he does. When you walk into
[56:45] Speaker 2: that roundtable, you walk in there and they play the
[56:47] Speaker 2: hanging Tree from from a from the fucking Hugger game
[56:51] Speaker 2: from the Hunger Games. Wow, because it's just sets the mood,
[56:53] Speaker 2: it sets the vibor. You're like oh shit, And we
[56:56] Speaker 2: we all sit there in silence and we'll listen to
[56:57] Speaker 2: the song through. Then Alan comes in gives a speech
[57:01] Speaker 2: and they let you go and you just go. And
[57:03] Speaker 2: it's always like who's going to talk first? It's going
[57:05] Speaker 2: to speak first because it's like nerve wracking, and then
[57:09] Speaker 2: someone breaks the silence to do it. And we're going
[57:11] Speaker 2: at it for like an hour, an hour and hour fifteen.
[57:14] Speaker 2: It's a long ass time and it needs to edit
[57:16] Speaker 2: down to like ten minutes.
[57:18] Speaker 3: And how intense does it get like emotionally, like do
[57:22] Speaker 3: you feel like it's captured on the screen. Oh?
[57:24] Speaker 2: No, I think it's I think I think no, I
[57:26] Speaker 2: think it feels more in person. Like the really intense
[57:28] Speaker 2: one when I was there was when Tiffany was getting unbanished.
[57:32] Speaker 1: That that was such a bummer.
[57:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was even more intense Tiffany was going
[57:36] Speaker 2: in because like she was, she she was going off
[57:38] Speaker 2: for a while and then people going back and forth
[57:39] Speaker 2: with her and she was like, listen, I'm here from
[57:41] Speaker 2: my son.
[57:42] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[57:42] Speaker 2: She was like, She's like, I'm here from I'm sitting
[57:44] Speaker 2: I'm sending a I was saying, an eight year old
[57:46] Speaker 2: black go to college in three months, She's like, I'm
[57:49] Speaker 2: here for this money, but you know, if you'll, if
[57:50] Speaker 2: y'all don't think I'm I'm a faithfulness to send me home,
[57:53] Speaker 2: send me the fuck home right now. Then it was
[57:55] Speaker 2: just sitting there like, oh wait, I do believe her now,
[57:57] Speaker 2: but yeah, I know it's still got to go home.
[57:59] Speaker 1: But so at that point, like you're still thinking, like
[58:04] Speaker 1: I can't stick my neck.
[58:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm like, what is just a really good actress?
[58:07] Speaker 2: I was like, I was like I had this gut
[58:10] Speaker 2: feeling that is her go.
[58:13] Speaker 1: But you know who earned it, Danielle Danielle because she
[58:16] Speaker 1: swore on her what her? Yeah, but you know what,
[58:21] Speaker 1: I think that's fair fair game.
[58:22] Speaker 3: If I'm going to break down, bent myself out of
[58:27] Speaker 3: shape and swear on my grandson and I'm lying, and
[58:29] Speaker 3: you believe me, I bet myself out of shape, I'm
[58:33] Speaker 3: not not paying for it. I'm the one who did
[58:35] Speaker 3: the deal with that.
[58:36] Speaker 1: I agree.
[58:37] Speaker 2: Also, I miss her just over this hop like campness.
[58:42] Speaker 2: My favorite was I think like it was towards the
[58:44] Speaker 2: and and someone cried and she someone got bantage and
[58:46] Speaker 2: she's there, the hands are shaking.
[58:47] Speaker 3: She's like, people did way too much on her because
[58:51] Speaker 3: it was so fun to watch her. I'm like, and
[58:55] Speaker 3: I also tend to think people are doing too much
[58:57] Speaker 3: on everyone because ultimately, at the end of the day,
[58:59] Speaker 3: every episode has been so good and if someone is.
[59:02] Speaker 1: Flopping, that's also part of what makes it good. That's great.
[59:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, celebrity UK Traders, did you watch? I did with
[59:10] Speaker 2: Alan Alan Carr and it was a great season. I
[59:12] Speaker 2: heard the New Civilian one is I heard the best season? Great?
[59:17] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, ones are amazing because they maybe they want
[59:20] Speaker 2: that coin they want.
[59:22] Speaker 3: And then they with the most random job, like the
[59:24] Speaker 3: Clairvoyant season two. Clairvoyant was truly out of this world.
[59:30] Speaker 3: But this I think season one of Australia my favorite Traders,
[59:35] Speaker 3: Like season one of Australia. Season two of Australia it
[59:38] Speaker 3: really went off the roads. But season one of Australia
[59:41] Speaker 3: and I think, like, honestly, every season of UK Traders.
[59:45] Speaker 2: They're still like I never watched the New Zealand one
[59:48] Speaker 2: because I was like, we're in like an airbnb.
[59:50] Speaker 1: What is this.
[59:51] Speaker 2: I was like, it's just someone's someone's summer house. I'm like,
[59:53] Speaker 2: this is an eventful and I'm not watching it.
[59:56] Speaker 3: And you're a Survivor, Girly Survivor you brought you were
[59:58] Speaker 3: the first person to bring Survivor and drag Race.
[1:00:00] Speaker 2: I feel, yes, yes, I wanted to. I want to
[1:00:02] Speaker 2: play that game. And I did that little Influencer Island
[1:00:06] Speaker 2: this past summer, which was fun.
[1:00:07] Speaker 1: Thirty six hours.
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: Yes, and I was like, you know what, They're gonna
[1:00:11] Speaker 2: be nice, so it They're not going to be that
[1:00:12] Speaker 2: crazy baby. It was the real experience. We were really
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: out there and that on that beach, cold cold, it
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: rained on us from three pm until like six am
[1:00:23] Speaker 2: the next morning. And I was like, it's surely it's
[1:00:27] Speaker 2: like a health hazard, Like they can't do this, and
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: they're like, oh no, yeah, go sit out here, just
[1:00:30] Speaker 2: us and one cameraman on this beach. It was insane.
[1:00:33] Speaker 1: Could you do the show? Not after the rain? It's
[1:00:38] Speaker 1: hard to be cold. It's hard to be cold. I mean,
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. I think I would, though I
[1:00:44] Speaker 1: love Survivor so much.
[1:00:45] Speaker 2: Though you get the opportunity to do I'm like, you
[1:00:48] Speaker 2: know what, just what's what's carpetium carpetdium? Bitch?
[1:00:54] Speaker 3: But not Mike White just getting back from doing his
[1:00:56] Speaker 3: second season and then came back in full on wrote
[1:00:59] Speaker 3: White Loaded, and like they're casting it and going, I'm like,
[1:01:02] Speaker 3: how do you have the capacity to go do season
[1:01:05] Speaker 3: fifty right and then come back and fully the biggest
[1:01:08] Speaker 3: show TV? And now it's going and like, I don't
[1:01:11] Speaker 3: know like it because the word on the street is
[1:01:16] Speaker 3: it's going to be a really good season.
[1:01:17] Speaker 1: I heard.
[1:01:17] Speaker 2: I hope so because you know there's you know, there's
[1:01:19] Speaker 2: a Yallowig survivor fans. Yeah, there's a lot of you know,
[1:01:22] Speaker 2: the fans do not like necessarily like the new era.
[1:01:25] Speaker 2: So I'm hoping with bringing back majority old era players,
[1:01:28] Speaker 2: we'll get more of that gameplay.
[1:01:30] Speaker 4: It's merging, it's merging all of it, right, It's like
[1:01:33] Speaker 4: it really is like a beautiful cross section of like
[1:01:35] Speaker 4: the entire history of the show.
[1:01:37] Speaker 1: That what feels like, Yeah, yeah.
[1:01:38] Speaker 3: I mean they certainly got from season one to season
[1:01:41] Speaker 3: forty nine. Yeah, missus Jenna from Borneo the first season,
[1:01:45] Speaker 3: Jenna Lewis, she's like the biggest veteran, huh. And then
[1:01:48] Speaker 3: obviously Colby is back. I'm still not over that they
[1:01:51] Speaker 3: don't have Jerry Manthea on that beach. Jerry's not back
[1:01:53] Speaker 3: for that's not and even Colby now is doing press
[1:01:57] Speaker 3: being like I'm not even gonna lie, like I got
[1:01:59] Speaker 3: there because it's his actual first season without Villains together
[1:02:04] Speaker 3: Heroes and Villains and the first All Stars and Australian Outback,
[1:02:07] Speaker 3: so he was like, hit the beach for the fourth time.
[1:02:10] Speaker 1: She wasn't there, not gonna lie.
[1:02:12] Speaker 3: She deserved to be there and like apparently they said
[1:02:15] Speaker 3: in a recent interview a lot of what they didn't
[1:02:17] Speaker 3: show in season twenty Heroes Versus Villains was Jerry and
[1:02:21] Speaker 3: Kolby going off to fish together and actually forming a
[1:02:23] Speaker 3: relationship of friendship, like just genuinely being like, let's do
[1:02:27] Speaker 3: something together. Yeah, And he said that their history like
[1:02:31] Speaker 3: actually moved forward. So he said, had she been on
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: the beach for fifty I would have been like, let's
[1:02:36] Speaker 3: play together, let's play.
[1:02:37] Speaker 1: Together this and how fun would that?
[1:02:39] Speaker 2: So as a fan, that should have been delicious to watch.
[1:02:42] Speaker 2: One thing I will say about Jeff Probes is that
[1:02:44] Speaker 2: that man you know, you know from Drag Race and
[1:02:47] Speaker 2: other shows, like a lot of times the hosts they
[1:02:49] Speaker 2: had the air piece in and they're getting fed stuff
[1:02:52] Speaker 2: and Jeff does not refuses to word to air ros.
[1:02:55] Speaker 2: He raw dogs the whole thing. He is looking up talking,
[1:02:58] Speaker 2: like getting information on every character. When he does call,
[1:03:00] Speaker 2: it's like, so, Matt, so you you worked at a clamshack.
[1:03:03] Speaker 2: How is that going to survivor? Like he knows to
[1:03:06] Speaker 2: a torreta like, well, I was vulnerable. He goes into
[1:03:11] Speaker 2: detail on all every and everyone. He's doing that from
[1:03:14] Speaker 2: his brain. He's not getting fed by producers. He loves
[1:03:16] Speaker 2: that show so much. When you are learning the challenge,
[1:03:18] Speaker 2: Jeff is running you through. The challenge is not not
[1:03:21] Speaker 2: not a challenge producer. Jeff is coming and like running, Okay,
[1:03:24] Speaker 2: You're gonna grab the snake and like he's like, so,
[1:03:28] Speaker 2: I was very impressed by that.
[1:03:30] Speaker 1: He's an icon. He's not. Did you watch Australia Versus
[1:03:32] Speaker 1: the World? Yes, poverty my girl harvedy.
[1:03:36] Speaker 3: I thought, you know it was applauding. I actually thought
[1:03:38] Speaker 3: someone left to their feet. I was like, actually knowing
[1:03:43] Speaker 3: the tea, which is that it's that it's.
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: Killed that by the way.
[1:03:49] Speaker 3: To see Suri come back and Trader season one and
[1:03:52] Speaker 3: just dominate, and then seeing Parvity dominate Australia out Back,
[1:03:57] Speaker 3: don't forget Suri also was dominant up until the very end,
[1:04:01] Speaker 3: just like she did in Micronesia, and Soria's back for
[1:04:04] Speaker 3: Survivor's season fifty and I am praying, yeah, that.
[1:04:07] Speaker 1: It goes well. I don't know how it could because
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: they're going to see her and be like, yeah, you
[1:04:12] Speaker 1: gotta go. Yeah, the threat girl.
[1:04:15] Speaker 2: She's a threat.
[1:04:15] Speaker 3: She's such a good game play and she also like
[1:04:18] Speaker 3: you know that every fan in the world is going
[1:04:19] Speaker 3: to be on her side if you do care at
[1:04:22] Speaker 3: all about the edit, better to just get her out
[1:04:24] Speaker 3: really quick.
[1:04:25] Speaker 1: She can't get to the end. And you read the
[1:04:26] Speaker 1: one looking mittery at the end being like, sorry, I'm
[1:04:29] Speaker 1: trying to be everyone in the world rooting against you.
[1:04:32] Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Soias. She's good and she's an I met
[1:04:35] Speaker 2: her a few times a person. She is so sweet.
[1:04:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a kind just a kind nurse. She
[1:04:40] Speaker 1: was working the hospitals during COVID.
[1:04:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, crazy.
[1:04:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, we'd be were missed not to ask about drag Race.
[1:04:47] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[1:04:47] Speaker 4: You and Bob are doing the watches, the watch watchery. Wow,
[1:04:50] Speaker 4: what are your thoughts so far?
[1:04:51] Speaker 2: I think this season is going very well. I like
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: the girls a lot. I like that the median age
[1:04:56] Speaker 2: is not twenty one girls in their thirties. Yeah, and yeah,
[1:04:59] Speaker 2: you know what records is what it is. I think
[1:05:01] Speaker 2: fans who watched Draggers are expecting something different, like it's
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: the same producers, the same like what like it's the
[1:05:05] Speaker 2: same show.
[1:05:06] Speaker 1: It's comfort viewing it.
[1:05:06] Speaker 2: It's exactly, it's comforting. We're we're gonna get a stach game.
[1:05:09] Speaker 2: We know we're gonna get designed like it's gonna like
[1:05:11] Speaker 2: it just is what it is. People get frustrated, like
[1:05:14] Speaker 2: why don't they? I'm like, it is is, this is
[1:05:16] Speaker 2: what it is, exactly what I'm enjoying it.
[1:05:18] Speaker 4: I can't believe there was They made Jan Sports with
[1:05:21] Speaker 4: her name not to Jan because they were fearing a lawsuit.
[1:05:23] Speaker 4: But they let Sierra miskeeper because I guess yours doesn't
[1:05:26] Speaker 4: exist anymore?
[1:05:27] Speaker 1: What they don't.
[1:05:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's no more.
[1:05:32] Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, getport out of business. I don't know.
[1:05:39] Speaker 2: Differently too, So maybe that's the thing to cause Sierra
[1:05:41] Speaker 2: miss was s I e. They are like want to step.
[1:05:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, step right, it's actually rule of culture number fifteen
[1:05:51] Speaker 3: one two steps.
[1:05:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:05:54] Speaker 1: I Mia Star is my favorite A star. I like
[1:05:58] Speaker 1: her to me.
[1:05:58] Speaker 3: I just I like the Dion's the Dion's. Yeah, the
[1:06:01] Speaker 3: Dion's juicy and Athenis do you see anything? I do
[1:06:03] Speaker 3: like d because she's a done for girl. Okay, I
[1:06:05] Speaker 3: think the most memorable thing about the whole thing is
[1:06:07] Speaker 3: watching Discord Adams walk.
[1:06:09] Speaker 1: Of course, of course that walk is good. The walk
[1:06:11] Speaker 1: is so good for me.
[1:06:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of people are turning on Jane Dome,
[1:06:16] Speaker 2: which I like her. She's why because she seems a
[1:06:19] Speaker 2: little perturbed in all of her interviews. She's always like
[1:06:21] Speaker 2: kind of like mean, mugging and like rolling her eyes
[1:06:24] Speaker 2: like these girls. I think people get into vibe like
[1:06:26] Speaker 2: she feels like she's better than the competition, which I
[1:06:28] Speaker 2: mean to be honest, she is very funny, her runways
[1:06:31] Speaker 2: are incredible and so she's like killing it.
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: So people always, I don't know, it's weird.
[1:06:37] Speaker 2: Sometimes people really love like the one that's like shining
[1:06:39] Speaker 2: above everyone, like Sasha Colby, Jakes, Bonsuen, etcetera.
[1:06:43] Speaker 1: But then you have someone like James who's doing a
[1:06:45] Speaker 1: good job, but people are like, no, not her. Yeah,
[1:06:48] Speaker 1: I don't know why.
[1:06:48] Speaker 3: Maybe it doesn't have to do with like the energy
[1:06:50] Speaker 3: that she brings to it, like that gets reflected back.
[1:06:53] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, interesting, I'm Kenya, please her fan.
[1:06:55] Speaker 2: Of course, she has nothing more to offer her. She
[1:06:57] Speaker 2: has to go home, I think, didn't she No, No,
[1:07:01] Speaker 2: she was saved by the raid of Queen. She was
[1:07:03] Speaker 2: saved by the rad Yeah. I love Kenya too, but
[1:07:05] Speaker 2: she has nothing else to give not great runways, does it?
[1:07:08] Speaker 2: Doesn't You don't know what.
[1:07:09] Speaker 1: Her lip sync?
[1:07:10] Speaker 2: You don't know the words to your own song. Yeah,
[1:07:12] Speaker 2: that's insane to me that in.
[1:07:14] Speaker 3: The Year of Our Lord twenty twenty six, you kind
[1:07:16] Speaker 3: of have to go up there and know the words
[1:07:17] Speaker 3: to your at least.
[1:07:18] Speaker 1: To your songs.
[1:07:19] Speaker 3: And you were the vocals to a few weeks ago.
[1:07:23] Speaker 3: Like what that was insane in an unpadded room, you
[1:07:27] Speaker 3: know what I mean? Wait, what was the last thing
[1:07:29] Speaker 3: you lip synced?
[1:07:30] Speaker 2: Lip sync? Okay, so it had been a while, yes,
[1:07:33] Speaker 2: but you know, every once a year I try to
[1:07:36] Speaker 2: do a show at my I used to do my
[1:07:37] Speaker 2: one woman show on Saturdays at Hardware, just a good
[1:07:40] Speaker 2: old nasty drag.
[1:07:42] Speaker 1: Hard exactly hard drag show.
[1:07:44] Speaker 2: Me doing an opening number to the Gospel Truth from Hercules,
[1:07:48] Speaker 2: doing like three or four lipsing numbers doing it, then
[1:07:50] Speaker 2: do the drag suicide of the end.
[1:07:51] Speaker 1: So I did that like two weeks ago at Hardware
[1:07:53] Speaker 1: and it was I juice, I go, oh, it was great.
[1:07:57] Speaker 1: It was great.
[1:07:58] Speaker 2: It was so good and like and I will never
[1:08:01] Speaker 2: ever not want to do a show like that because
[1:08:02] Speaker 2: now I don't really get to do shows like that ever.
[1:08:05] Speaker 2: Coming back once a year in New York and just
[1:08:06] Speaker 2: doing it. The bar was packed up to the front door,
[1:08:09] Speaker 2: and it was just a great time. I had a
[1:08:10] Speaker 2: great time.
[1:08:11] Speaker 1: We need to bring back those times.
[1:08:12] Speaker 3: Honestly, it's bumming me out to know that so much
[1:08:16] Speaker 3: happens online, Like comedy is that's how commedy.
[1:08:19] Speaker 2: It's for sure.
[1:08:20] Speaker 3: I mean, like all community driven activities, whether it's like
[1:08:24] Speaker 3: watching drag, going to see comedy, et cetera. It's just
[1:08:27] Speaker 3: you have to be in rooms earlier, like you have
[1:08:30] Speaker 3: to learn from each other what feels good. I agree
[1:08:33] Speaker 3: with you, Like I really think it's important. And I
[1:08:36] Speaker 3: think I get really bummed out. Maybe because it's this
[1:08:38] Speaker 3: time of year, it's very cool. We all feel extra
[1:08:41] Speaker 3: inside and so I think we're extra on our phones,
[1:08:43] Speaker 3: but especially with everything going on the way it's been
[1:08:46] Speaker 3: going on, like it's all very isolating and just to
[1:08:50] Speaker 3: like here you were out there doing a show, like
[1:08:53] Speaker 3: I don't.
[1:08:53] Speaker 1: Know we have to be in rooms.
[1:08:54] Speaker 2: Oh no, for sure, we have to be in rooms.
[1:08:55] Speaker 2: It was great.
[1:08:56] Speaker 1: The energy was dope.
[1:08:56] Speaker 2: And afterwards, like I like ran back to my hotel,
[1:08:59] Speaker 2: I changed, I went to go see Fred again.
[1:09:01] Speaker 1: I did Molly into like four o'clock. So good was
[1:09:05] Speaker 1: that That new venue in Queens.
[1:09:08] Speaker 2: It's like a studio, it's like a sound stage they
[1:09:11] Speaker 2: make into a performance hall.
[1:09:12] Speaker 1: Wait, are you a Coachella person?
[1:09:14] Speaker 2: Never been? And I got jealous when I saw y'all there.
[1:09:17] Speaker 2: You know what come with us?
[1:09:18] Speaker 3: I he had never been to last year. He got
[1:09:21] Speaker 3: obsessed with it three years in a row. I did
[1:09:23] Speaker 3: not think I was going to be the kind of
[1:09:25] Speaker 3: person either. You really can figures your arms at it? Yes,
[1:09:27] Speaker 3: I understand, I was.
[1:09:28] Speaker 1: I was you want.
[1:09:30] Speaker 2: You one? Okay, maybe I'll try it. I was just
[1:09:33] Speaker 2: like everyone who describes Coachella, and they make this sound
[1:09:36] Speaker 2: like it's such a to do, Like they make it
[1:09:37] Speaker 2: sounds as like burning Man.
[1:09:38] Speaker 3: You have to like there is so much good real
[1:09:41] Speaker 3: music though, like get over the logistics bullshit, which there
[1:09:45] Speaker 3: is a lot of.
[1:09:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:09:46] Speaker 4: Once once you're like in, you're like this is great,
[1:09:49] Speaker 4: truly genuinely like wonderful, okay, but.
[1:09:51] Speaker 1: You gotta see something about it.
[1:09:52] Speaker 4: It boulders is your cynicism in a way that you're like,
[1:09:55] Speaker 4: oh look, there's like sure, like I'm on a little
[1:09:58] Speaker 4: bit of shrooms, but like there's like a kid there
[1:09:59] Speaker 4: like dancing yo gabaga.
[1:10:01] Speaker 2: It's sweet, okay, cynicism And I heard synesthesia. I'm like, wait,
[1:10:04] Speaker 2: you can see colors.
[1:10:05] Speaker 3: Literally, I'll never forget, like it was two years ago,
[1:10:11] Speaker 3: Like there was a day that was just really really
[1:10:14] Speaker 3: really like hot, Like I walked by and there was
[1:10:16] Speaker 3: this young singer singing this song called the Hardest Part
[1:10:19] Speaker 3: and it was Olivia Dean and I was like remember her. Oh,
[1:10:22] Speaker 3: so I was like you can see and we saw
[1:10:24] Speaker 3: Victoria Monet and that show was sick. This was after
[1:10:27] Speaker 3: she had won Best New Artist and stuff, so she
[1:10:29] Speaker 3: was kind of popping off. But Chapel Roone the show
[1:10:31] Speaker 3: that made her launch. Like we were watching, Yes, you
[1:10:35] Speaker 3: can see some really cool stuff about a year two
[1:10:38] Speaker 3: years in advance at Coachella, like during the day at
[1:10:41] Speaker 3: those smaller tents, like I really like just seeing who's around,
[1:10:46] Speaker 3: just going where there's energy, like some people will We're
[1:10:49] Speaker 3: all gonna go see this and it'll be someone I've
[1:10:50] Speaker 3: never fucking heard of, and I'll go there and be like, oh,
[1:10:53] Speaker 3: I feel like I was able to catch a vibe.
[1:10:55] Speaker 3: It's being in rooms. These are all outdoor tents.
[1:10:59] Speaker 1: That's why I like it. Okay, maybe I'll try this year.
[1:11:01] Speaker 1: Then who's headline?
[1:11:02] Speaker 4: Do we know who's Carol g Justin Bieber? Okay, yeah,
[1:11:05] Speaker 4: so I had a cat thrown in there. That's a
[1:11:07] Speaker 4: good variety.
[1:11:08] Speaker 1: Okay, only festival I've ever been to his a cl
[1:11:12] Speaker 1: city limits. I always get jealous. They always have great.
[1:11:14] Speaker 2: It was great and that was That's that's my Messissa
[1:11:16] Speaker 2: for the first time.
[1:11:17] Speaker 1: I'm like I met her.
[1:11:19] Speaker 2: I was like on my flight, I was like leaving
[1:11:21] Speaker 2: La to just fly to Austin, just go see her
[1:11:24] Speaker 2: love michirl. Yes, it was before s os I came out,
[1:11:27] Speaker 2: so it was after control, but she had had some
[1:11:30] Speaker 2: singles like whatever, and then so I'm like, I'm on
[1:11:33] Speaker 2: my flight, I got I was. I was sitting in
[1:11:35] Speaker 2: seat one B and I'm like sitting there just on
[1:11:38] Speaker 2: my phone. It was they had the good WiFi. Someone
[1:11:41] Speaker 2: Instagram and looking at stories and then I get to
[1:11:43] Speaker 2: her stories randomly. I'm like, oh, I was like, she's yeah, wait,
[1:11:48] Speaker 2: that was like adult. I was like, I saw someone
[1:11:50] Speaker 2: with that outfit on bitch. I look back and she
[1:11:52] Speaker 2: is in seat three C on the isle, like two
[1:11:55] Speaker 2: seats behind me. I was like, oh my god, God.
[1:11:59] Speaker 2: So I text patting myself.
[1:12:00] Speaker 1: I was like Patty. Patty was on my flight and
[1:12:03] Speaker 1: he was like, go say.
[1:12:03] Speaker 2: I was like, what, can't say hi to her?
[1:12:05] Speaker 1: Talk to me?
[1:12:06] Speaker 2: And He's like I just I was like, no, I'm
[1:12:07] Speaker 2: not doing a girl that's still annoying.
[1:12:08] Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that.
[1:12:09] Speaker 2: So we land, I get off the jet bridge. I
[1:12:11] Speaker 2: was like, you know what I should say? I was like,
[1:12:12] Speaker 2: you just wait here at the end of the jet bridge,
[1:12:14] Speaker 2: like by the ticket count. Let me just say hi.
[1:12:16] Speaker 2: So she comes off and then I go, hey, I
[1:12:20] Speaker 2: don't want to bother you. I'm I'm coming here to
[1:12:22] Speaker 2: ac im my na is Monet. I'm a huge fan
[1:12:24] Speaker 2: of yours. I'm so excited to see this weekend. She
[1:12:25] Speaker 2: was like me and my team knew that was you.
[1:12:28] Speaker 2: She was like, we love you. I was like you.
[1:12:31] Speaker 2: I was like, I love you.
[1:12:33] Speaker 1: Of course she knew.
[1:12:34] Speaker 2: I was like, why would she know that?
[1:12:36] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[1:12:37] Speaker 2: I was I was still gagged. I was like, I'm
[1:12:39] Speaker 2: a huge fan. I was like, I'm just so excited
[1:12:41] Speaker 2: to see you. She's like, well, do you have tickets.
[1:12:42] Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, tickets already. She's like, well, take
[1:12:44] Speaker 2: my sistant's number and she will like make sure that
[1:12:47] Speaker 2: you guys have like a nice private space to watch it.
[1:12:49] Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, great to get the number,
[1:12:52] Speaker 1: and then I leave to go the baggage claim. I
[1:12:53] Speaker 1: wait for my bag. Her and her assistant walk over
[1:12:55] Speaker 1: to me.
[1:12:55] Speaker 2: She's like, just so you know, Hugh was texting, this
[1:12:57] Speaker 2: is my assistant here, and they were talking while like
[1:13:00] Speaker 2: being both from the East Coast because she's from Jersey,
[1:13:02] Speaker 2: I was like, I'm from New York. Blah blah blah blah.
[1:13:04] Speaker 2: Because I didn't want it to get awkward, I was like, oh,
[1:13:06] Speaker 2: I got myself, now I'll leave. Didn't have my bags,
[1:13:08] Speaker 2: but I just didn't want to say anything weird, so
[1:13:10] Speaker 2: I just like dipped out, waited for her to get
[1:13:12] Speaker 2: her bags, went back to get I was like, let
[1:13:17] Speaker 2: me just leave it.
[1:13:18] Speaker 1: I don't weird. It's like it's like when you reach
[1:13:21] Speaker 1: a point where you're like I can only mess the size.
[1:13:23] Speaker 2: Exactly let me walk away and just wait till she
[1:13:28] Speaker 2: leaves and then get my ship. But she was literally
[1:13:30] Speaker 2: the nicest, so nice, like so sweet.
[1:13:34] Speaker 1: But it has such a funny interaction.
[1:13:36] Speaker 4: Oh, I just I just went up to her when
[1:13:37] Speaker 4: she was at SNL. This is like right before i
[1:13:40] Speaker 4: SS came out, and I was like, you are we
[1:13:42] Speaker 4: did promise to get the Pikiki. I was there when
[1:13:44] Speaker 4: they first met. I was there and I was like,
[1:13:48] Speaker 4: I looked at her. I've said this since control. I
[1:13:50] Speaker 4: was like, you are our generations Joni Mitchell. And then
[1:13:53] Speaker 4: she went she went wide and she was like, oh
[1:13:54] Speaker 4: you like me, like me?
[1:13:59] Speaker 1: That is so accurate though it is, yes, it's her
[1:14:03] Speaker 1: confessional shit.
[1:14:04] Speaker 2: Yeah. And also I.
[1:14:06] Speaker 3: Feel like everyone, just like you know, celebrates the pen,
[1:14:10] Speaker 3: celebrates the pen, celebrates the pen. Her voice is so easy.
[1:14:15] Speaker 3: Her voice is so easy, She's so musical. She's always
[1:14:19] Speaker 3: like it's just like her voice is in her brain.
[1:14:22] Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I mean.
[1:14:23] Speaker 3: It's like you feel her thoughts as she sings. She's
[1:14:26] Speaker 3: literally a thoughtful singer. I say the same thing about
[1:14:29] Speaker 3: like Sarah Burrell sometimes where it's like I feel like
[1:14:31] Speaker 3: you hear how smart the voice?
[1:14:34] Speaker 2: I agree? Well, also because you can tell that when
[1:14:35] Speaker 2: she writes like sometimes like people are like right, they
[1:14:38] Speaker 2: will like get the track and they're writing to the track,
[1:14:40] Speaker 2: and can tell Sissa is she she goes home, she
[1:14:42] Speaker 2: does her journaling, and she's taking her stories and just
[1:14:45] Speaker 2: like sometimes freestyling it to a b and just finding
[1:14:48] Speaker 2: what works. So I feel like she's she's a singer
[1:14:51] Speaker 2: that write, that writes like a rapper, and I'm obsessed
[1:14:54] Speaker 2: with her, whatever her process is. I'm obsessed with how
[1:14:56] Speaker 2: she's able to fit these fucking soliloquies. Yes to like
[1:15:00] Speaker 2: this like verse chords, prey, hooked, whatever, it's dope, She's
[1:15:03] Speaker 2: the best.
[1:15:04] Speaker 1: So good, Okay, I think it might be time. It's time,
[1:15:13] Speaker 1: it's time for having honey.
[1:15:14] Speaker 3: So this is of course that moment when there are
[1:15:17] Speaker 3: three moments each a minute in length, and they all
[1:15:21] Speaker 3: are and I don't think so, honey, a little tantrum
[1:15:23] Speaker 3: on culture.
[1:15:24] Speaker 1: I have something. It's based in the lives experience.
[1:15:27] Speaker 2: Okay, this is Matt Rodgers. Okay, so many as time
[1:15:29] Speaker 2: starts now.
[1:15:29] Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey. Melatonin, you are demonic, you
[1:15:33] Speaker 3: are diabol for your devilish Yeah. I wake up in
[1:15:35] Speaker 3: the morning. It's depression of fourth duh huh, didn't even
[1:15:38] Speaker 3: mean to do that. I honestly, I have had the
[1:15:42] Speaker 3: most vivid dreams after taking these pills. Also, I've also
[1:15:48] Speaker 3: been on like xiproso they've been like interacting. I think
[1:15:51] Speaker 3: I am waking up and I don't know what's real.
[1:15:54] Speaker 3: I had a dream that we wrote a whole film
[1:15:56] Speaker 3: years ago, years ago, we wrote a whole film, that
[1:15:59] Speaker 3: it was getting success at the Sundance Film Festival. And
[1:16:02] Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think we wrote a film,
[1:16:04] Speaker 3: and they were like, no, you did. You just don't
[1:16:05] Speaker 3: remember it. And I was like what and they were like,
[1:16:08] Speaker 3: you're getting a claim at Sundance.
[1:16:10] Speaker 1: And I woke up and I thought for about fifteen minutes,
[1:16:12] Speaker 1: like bohen and I have a film at sundown.
[1:16:14] Speaker 5: Fifteen seconds because I took two three milligam mega milligam
[1:16:19] Speaker 5: gummies of melatonin and I'm depressed for six hours because
[1:16:24] Speaker 5: I think I'm losing my mind, and also depression I melatonin, no,
[1:16:29] Speaker 5: you take, you don't give.
[1:16:31] Speaker 1: And that's one minute you take, you don't give, you take.
[1:16:34] Speaker 3: And it's not my first time being in like sort
[1:16:38] Speaker 3: of a moment of not feeling great, and then melatonin.
[1:16:41] Speaker 3: You take it to help you sleep and it wakes
[1:16:43] Speaker 3: you wake up and things are worse. I think melatonin
[1:16:46] Speaker 3: is a deal with the devil.
[1:16:47] Speaker 4: I think you can make it, like Dwayne Read, you
[1:16:50] Speaker 4: make it, Dwayne Raid if it still exists. The veil
[1:16:55] Speaker 4: was so thin between the world of the dream where
[1:16:58] Speaker 4: we had written a Sundance but you in the dream
[1:17:01] Speaker 4: were like, you guys are gaslighting me.
[1:17:03] Speaker 1: We don't have a movie. I literally was telling them
[1:17:05] Speaker 1: in the dream. I was like, we didn't do this.
[1:17:07] Speaker 1: They were like, you did.
[1:17:09] Speaker 3: You are getting a claim You wrote and directed this
[1:17:12] Speaker 3: film together. And I was chatting with him and he
[1:17:14] Speaker 3: was a gas we know.
[1:17:17] Speaker 1: It was like it was like an au.
[1:17:18] Speaker 3: Term moment when we were having our autterm moment at
[1:17:21] Speaker 3: the sun Dance Film Festival. I swear to god, I
[1:17:23] Speaker 3: lived this and I woke up and I was like,
[1:17:27] Speaker 3: I can't believe that this thing we did from college
[1:17:30] Speaker 3: or something, because I started to really believe it, Like.
[1:17:33] Speaker 1: I can't believe we're ever gonna claim this one is
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: film festival, which by the way, passed past this.
[1:17:39] Speaker 3: This is way past the Sundance Film Festival. Isn't Yeah,
[1:17:43] Speaker 3: this happened last week while I was in Milan, because
[1:17:44] Speaker 3: I don't know where I am.
[1:17:46] Speaker 1: We've been traveling and taking drugs, drugs.
[1:17:48] Speaker 4: Someone just told me James Cameron had a dream in
[1:17:53] Speaker 4: middle school that was Avatar.
[1:17:55] Speaker 1: Oh my no, he made Is this true? How do
[1:17:59] Speaker 1: I know that's true? That's true? Really?
[1:18:04] Speaker 3: See, this is what the straight guys behind the camera. No,
[1:18:07] Speaker 3: I know that James Cara had Alvatar illustrations.
[1:18:11] Speaker 2: James Cameron is so rich that he invents new technology
[1:18:14] Speaker 2: for every movie his I watched those ridiculous when they
[1:18:17] Speaker 2: have like a sponge and like some mops bristles on
[1:18:20] Speaker 2: their heads and they're like.
[1:18:20] Speaker 3: Hey, hey, I'm a film guy. Do you guys want
[1:18:22] Speaker 3: to know how I think we can go to the
[1:18:24] Speaker 3: bottom of the ocean and.
[1:18:25] Speaker 2: Feel like and like they make. They have to invent
[1:18:27] Speaker 2: new technology for his movies. It's insane.
[1:18:30] Speaker 1: Has anyone seen Fire and Ash yet?
[1:18:32] Speaker 5: Yes?
[1:18:32] Speaker 3: You have?
[1:18:33] Speaker 2: I did?
[1:18:33] Speaker 1: Did you see?
[1:18:35] Speaker 2: It's so good?
[1:18:36] Speaker 1: We're like Avasar hive. We we really love the French.
[1:18:39] Speaker 2: I mean in this in this last one, they really
[1:18:41] Speaker 2: sent her a spider and I'm like, okay, they really
[1:18:45] Speaker 2: spiders spider spider stories.
[1:18:48] Speaker 3: I forgot the kid's name was Spicy. Yes, yes, I
[1:18:52] Speaker 3: heard she was giving everything though.
[1:18:54] Speaker 1: Which which oh yeah, she was great. She was so good.
[1:18:59] Speaker 3: It was called her is countress because I feel like
[1:19:01] Speaker 3: that's counts hunter hunter, countress, hunter contress.
[1:19:09] Speaker 1: She is the villain.
[1:19:11] Speaker 2: She's amazing. I love her her acting and just oh,
[1:19:14] Speaker 2: it's so good, She's everything. Okay, I'm watching. That's an
[1:19:18] Speaker 2: edible arrangement.
[1:19:19] Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm seeing Wuthering Heights. I'm seeing Avatar
[1:19:22] Speaker 3: fire and ash. I'm seeing the moment and then I'm
[1:19:24] Speaker 3: surely passing the fucked.
[1:19:25] Speaker 2: Out triple feature.
[1:19:27] Speaker 1: Okay, bow Yang, do you have such a topic.
[1:19:29] Speaker 2: I do.
[1:19:29] Speaker 4: Okay, this is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey,
[1:19:32] Speaker 4: and his time starts now, I don't think so, honey.
[1:19:34] Speaker 4: Orthodn tics orthodon, sure, I don't. I think the desire
[1:19:39] Speaker 4: for straight teeth is like a sham, right, Like if
[1:19:42] Speaker 4: I had fucked up teeth, I think I would be
[1:19:43] Speaker 4: a more interesting person. I think straightening my teeth has
[1:19:47] Speaker 4: taken texture away from my personality. I would have had
[1:19:50] Speaker 4: to overcome more if I had a gap tooth. If
[1:19:54] Speaker 4: I I think, I think orthodonture is maybe the beginnings
[1:19:58] Speaker 4: of a body dyst morphia that is permissible. I don't
[1:20:01] Speaker 4: think it's a gender dysphoria. I think it's a body
[1:20:04] Speaker 4: dysmorphia where you're like, something's wrong with me. I have
[1:20:06] Speaker 4: to correct it rather than accepting it.
[1:20:09] Speaker 3: Now.
[1:20:10] Speaker 4: I just came from the dermatologists, and I think that
[1:20:13] Speaker 4: is also. I would not I would not be as
[1:20:16] Speaker 4: eager to go there and get a guy's laser beamed
[1:20:18] Speaker 4: at my face. I did not suffer as a teenager
[1:20:21] Speaker 4: in a formative time in my life to let someone
[1:20:23] Speaker 4: poke around in my mouth and put metal and rubber
[1:20:27] Speaker 4: bands in it, to give, to give society permission to
[1:20:30] Speaker 4: and to to mess with this what what is already
[1:20:33] Speaker 4: maybe just fine to begin with.
[1:20:34] Speaker 3: And that is what the first of all, you glow,
[1:20:37] Speaker 3: shimmer and more. And second of all, let me see
[1:20:40] Speaker 3: it to you. To Siamese baby tooth, talk to more
[1:20:46] Speaker 3: about that. It was one tooth that rooted as one
[1:20:48] Speaker 3: and then branched off into two Siamese.
[1:20:51] Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's probably not that. It's not it's not
[1:20:54] Speaker 1: the woke thing to say, probably to the Siamese population.
[1:20:59] Speaker 1: We were when I had to conjoined and I I
[1:21:05] Speaker 1: we stand with the Siamon, you stand with the Siamese,
[1:21:07] Speaker 1: and that.
[1:21:07] Speaker 2: Would be that would be a conversation started.
[1:21:12] Speaker 4: And now I just I don't know. I feel like
[1:21:15] Speaker 4: I feel like I should have just left the saloon,
[1:21:17] Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But you've you've even.
[1:21:21] Speaker 2: Well you know I wanted to get Veneers.
[1:21:24] Speaker 1: No, don't so.
[1:21:25] Speaker 2: So this was this is after visil Line. Yes, I
[1:21:28] Speaker 2: was in the city. I had my my lesbian doctor
[1:21:31] Speaker 2: to doctor Harrison. I love doctor, you say, doctor, doctor docta.
[1:21:37] Speaker 1: And then I went to her and I was like,
[1:21:38] Speaker 1: I want to get Vineer. She's like, no, you're not.
[1:21:40] Speaker 1: I was like, I want to get Veneers. She was like,
[1:21:41] Speaker 1: I can't afford it.
[1:21:42] Speaker 2: Now she's like no, She's like, you're gonna You're gonna
[1:21:43] Speaker 2: get in visiline and you'll be fine, trust me. And
[1:21:45] Speaker 2: I am happy I got a Visiline there.
[1:21:47] Speaker 3: You I mean, they look they're they're glow and in
[1:21:51] Speaker 3: the dark. Remember that song, Yeah, that was like a
[1:21:54] Speaker 3: song for like a seconds.
[1:21:55] Speaker 2: Well, you know, teeth like health is genetic because my
[1:21:59] Speaker 2: first like, I'm until I was like I didn't say
[1:22:01] Speaker 2: like flossing like I should as an adult.
[1:22:02] Speaker 1: Until I was like twenty two, I will like go
[1:22:05] Speaker 1: to and eat Landa and I not.
[1:22:06] Speaker 2: But it's because, like a lot of it is just
[1:22:08] Speaker 2: genetically like just I didn't have to work very hard
[1:22:11] Speaker 2: to maintain my teeth.
[1:22:12] Speaker 3: I think my teeth are gaining space, Like I think
[1:22:16] Speaker 3: my teeth are trying to run away. Like I look
[1:22:18] Speaker 3: at my teeth and I'm like, there's more space between
[1:22:21] Speaker 3: these motherfuckers than I know there was, And I'm going
[1:22:24] Speaker 3: to get to the bottom of it.
[1:22:25] Speaker 1: It's a knives out mystery in my mouth. Social distancing
[1:22:29] Speaker 1: is over social distance. That said your titties are social distancing.
[1:22:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, she she did.
[1:22:36] Speaker 3: She said she said to someone that their titties were
[1:22:39] Speaker 3: social distancing. And I forget to whom.
[1:22:43] Speaker 4: And when it happened Atlanta during COVID, I think was
[1:22:45] Speaker 4: doing better than other franchises during COVID.
[1:22:48] Speaker 2: Yes, fucking love Williams' icon.
[1:22:53] Speaker 1: I am obsessed with her. She's so funny, she's.
[1:22:58] Speaker 2: I was so mad when I saw a porch with it,
[1:23:00] Speaker 2: was like, yeah, yeah, I get to play with Porsche.
[1:23:02] Speaker 2: Williams obsessed portion get it wrong for me, and her
[1:23:04] Speaker 2: ass is insane in real life. Yeah, of course, it's
[1:23:07] Speaker 2: a literal show. Wait, did people pick up this on
[1:23:10] Speaker 2: like on like TikTok or anything like?
[1:23:12] Speaker 4: I think her Round table where she got banished some
[1:23:14] Speaker 4: I think I think it was more who like literally
[1:23:17] Speaker 4: said who said that? Like someone said who said that
[1:23:20] Speaker 4: at round run it back, go back and watch it
[1:23:28] Speaker 4: happened someone says, who said So I thought funny.
[1:23:34] Speaker 1: Watched it.
[1:23:36] Speaker 3: And she'll be on the reunion too. I think the
[1:23:39] Speaker 3: thing that this road trip that they just did Girls Trip.
[1:23:42] Speaker 3: Have you watched Potomac this year?
[1:23:43] Speaker 1: You know, I've never watched Potomac.
[1:23:45] Speaker 2: I heard is good.
[1:23:46] Speaker 1: I never watched it.
[1:23:47] Speaker 3: It was by far our favorite. Then like something didn't happen.
[1:23:51] Speaker 3: It just got a little weird, and then it's had.
[1:23:53] Speaker 1: A really good season. Okay, I'll go back. Salt Lake City, Potomac.
[1:23:58] Speaker 3: Those are franchises that when I'm really and usually Beverly Hills,
[1:24:02] Speaker 3: but just kind of lost me this year.
[1:24:03] Speaker 2: I don't know. At least the word is not on
[1:24:05] Speaker 2: Beverly Hills anymore.
[1:24:06] Speaker 1: She hasn't been for a few years.
[1:24:07] Speaker 2: Okay, But on her last season she was like a
[1:24:09] Speaker 2: villain on it apparently, yes, deeply, Yeah, she.
[1:24:13] Speaker 3: Was deeply villainized on her last season and I really
[1:24:15] Speaker 3: think she was having like a very hard personal time
[1:24:18] Speaker 3: this morning. She was, Yeah, she was their whole story,
[1:24:21] Speaker 3: a lot of the storyline this year on Beverly Hills
[1:24:23] Speaker 3: in the beginning anyway, And then it has come up
[1:24:25] Speaker 3: a bunch is that Garcela left like that, like they
[1:24:28] Speaker 3: can't seem to stop, like they're running in circles about
[1:24:32] Speaker 3: why Garcela left.
[1:24:33] Speaker 1: I'm like, she left because she didn't like you guys. Yeah,
[1:24:35] Speaker 1: she was over it, like she was over this was
[1:24:36] Speaker 1: her job for her.
[1:24:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like she was she was done, yeah,
[1:24:40] Speaker 3: being on this cat Yeah, and they just can't arrive there.
[1:24:44] Speaker 1: No, well maybe it was because we did it.
[1:24:49] Speaker 2: I was like, she didn't like you.
[1:24:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to leave the podcast. No, come on,
[1:24:54] Speaker 1: come on, Okay, you're ready, this is the moment. I
[1:24:57] Speaker 1: am ready. Okay, here we go.
[1:24:59] Speaker 2: This is my exchanges. I don't think so many your
[1:25:01] Speaker 2: time starts now. I don't think so honey about people
[1:25:04] Speaker 2: showing me pictures of their children.
[1:25:06] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:25:06] Speaker 2: The other day, I had the privilege of being in
[1:25:09] Speaker 2: the Delta one.
[1:25:11] Speaker 1: What privilege.
[1:25:11] Speaker 2: And I was trying to to enjoy my sausage Porbridge
[1:25:16] Speaker 2: and as woman comes over to me. She's like, oh
[1:25:17] Speaker 2: my god, are you MONA exchange is like, yes, I am,
[1:25:19] Speaker 2: and she's telling me she talked to me. She's like,
[1:25:21] Speaker 2: you know, I love dragons. You guys really help me
[1:25:22] Speaker 2: out through my pregnancy. Thank you so much for your
[1:25:24] Speaker 2: hard work. Beautiful, I love her. That do you mind
[1:25:26] Speaker 2: if I show a picture of my of my of
[1:25:27] Speaker 2: my of my daughter, to which I said sure. She
[1:25:31] Speaker 2: pulls out a picture and Season ten was ten, about
[1:25:33] Speaker 2: eight years ago. I'm expecting to see at least a
[1:25:35] Speaker 2: college age student. She pulls out a picture of a baby.
[1:25:39] Speaker 2: I'm telling y'all, one straight out the pussy, you know,
[1:25:42] Speaker 2: when it's still wrinkly, the eyes are still closed, it's
[1:25:44] Speaker 2: still covened in chlorophyll.
[1:25:45] Speaker 1: I cannot wait fifteen seconds.
[1:25:48] Speaker 2: So I was like, I don't even need to be
[1:25:49] Speaker 2: accosted by a picture of a newborn baby at six
[1:25:52] Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning in adulta loungehere, I'm going to
[1:25:54] Speaker 2: be eating bacon, sausage, egg and cheese. Not, I don't think,
[1:25:57] Speaker 2: So keep your chidrens pictures to yourselves and only my permission.
[1:26:00] Speaker 1: If I asked, then you show me until then, don't
[1:26:02] Speaker 1: do it. And that's one minute. That's one minute. You're
[1:26:04] Speaker 1: never gonna ask to see if I will not that
[1:26:07] Speaker 1: will never not right, not girl, rare baby, rare.
[1:26:12] Speaker 2: Rare baby. This baby's medium rare. Like you just gave
[1:26:16] Speaker 2: birth to Lord Voldemort.
[1:26:17] Speaker 3: Okay, you have to baby, you have to jail covered
[1:26:21] Speaker 3: in chlorophyll or whatever this stuff is on it, don't
[1:26:24] Speaker 3: I see it?
[1:26:25] Speaker 1: I just wow.
[1:26:27] Speaker 3: Yeah, the last thing in the morning should be the
[1:26:29] Speaker 3: egg samwich exactly, not the baby.
[1:26:31] Speaker 2: And I had to look at this thing.
[1:26:33] Speaker 1: I had to pretend to be like, oh my god,
[1:26:35] Speaker 1: that's the nice thank you.
[1:26:37] Speaker 4: And so she was basically saying that she was watching
[1:26:39] Speaker 4: season ten Super eight years after or seven years after
[1:26:44] Speaker 4: it aired.
[1:26:44] Speaker 2: You know, No, she was watching it in real like
[1:26:46] Speaker 2: when she was id. She was watching she was having
[1:26:50] Speaker 2: a hard pregnancy and watching drag Race really helped her out.
[1:26:54] Speaker 2: And I guess you showed me a picture of the
[1:26:55] Speaker 2: baby when the baby was born, right, But I don't
[1:26:59] Speaker 2: know why I would have seen updated picture, Like what
[1:27:02] Speaker 2: is Cynthia doing now? I need to know what she's
[1:27:06] Speaker 2: growing in going into It was eight years ago, I know,
[1:27:10] Speaker 2: is that crazy?
[1:27:11] Speaker 1: What is time? Honestly, I think my favorite seasons were
[1:27:15] Speaker 1: nine and ten, like really of all drag Race, yes, six, six, eight, nine, ten, four.
[1:27:22] Speaker 3: The thing is, I like when it got a little
[1:27:24] Speaker 3: bigger too. I loved when it was like trust me,
[1:27:29] Speaker 3: like those were the golden age years. Definitely, like five, six,
[1:27:34] Speaker 3: like eight was like truly like when it got big,
[1:27:37] Speaker 3: it felt like for community reasons. And then nine ten
[1:27:41] Speaker 3: it did have the mainstream moment that I think I
[1:27:43] Speaker 3: really liked watching nine, like the pinnacle of drag Race
[1:27:47] Speaker 3: for me will always and forever be.
[1:27:49] Speaker 1: I love finale of nine. It was a few.
[1:27:52] Speaker 3: Episodes of nine like just good, yeah, a true neck
[1:27:57] Speaker 3: and neck and then Sasha coming out of nowhere like yeah.
[1:28:01] Speaker 3: And any time a season of reality show of reality
[1:28:04] Speaker 3: show ends at its climax, that's good.
[1:28:09] Speaker 2: And also like all those like earlier seasons were on Logo.
[1:28:11] Speaker 2: Those were like the dark days of drag Race. They
[1:28:13] Speaker 2: paid those bitches when they.
[1:28:15] Speaker 1: Were they were really being.
[1:28:18] Speaker 2: They were really being broken.
[1:28:20] Speaker 1: They were broken down and they were awful then.
[1:28:24] Speaker 2: And also like you think back to the early seasons, y'all,
[1:28:26] Speaker 2: season two of drag Race, they wasn't even lace frunts.
[1:28:29] Speaker 2: They all had at harsh Front. There was not literally
[1:28:32] Speaker 2: not a single laceprint was on the show. The first
[1:28:34] Speaker 2: lace print to Everybody and Dragons was Manila in season three.
[1:28:37] Speaker 2: What yeah, Manila historical facts. It is historical facts, stop
[1:28:42] Speaker 2: or something. He's the first lace print. And back then
[1:28:48] Speaker 2: they were all wearing Charlotte Rouss and wet Seal like
[1:28:50] Speaker 2: that drag. Then the bitches are wearing like Customer to
[1:28:56] Speaker 2: Valentino was.
[1:28:59] Speaker 1: You know, could be making the whole collection.
[1:29:02] Speaker 2: Also, y'all see the Sriana Runway show where Cocoa was
[1:29:06] Speaker 2: wearing a beautiful gown and Leslie Jones is like, come on,
[1:29:08] Speaker 2: Coco and like just like this show, by the way
[1:29:17] Speaker 2: that dressed Coco. Yeah, just screaming, just scareaming. I was like,
[1:29:20] Speaker 2: Leslie Jones, I love her.
[1:29:22] Speaker 1: John, this was so fun. Happy birthday, Thank you.
[1:29:28] Speaker 2: I know, I don't know I'm going to do my birthday.
[1:29:29] Speaker 2: I'm not a big birthday person. Neither water sign thing,
[1:29:32] Speaker 2: Yeah you're cancer scorpio scorpio to Well, here's the thing,
[1:29:37] Speaker 2: I did not know scorpios were cancers until I mean,
[1:29:39] Speaker 2: water signed until like a year ago. Gives very just
[1:29:42] Speaker 2: like fire or land water water dripping, yeah, dripping.
[1:29:51] Speaker 1: We're all water Signs is a scorpios exactly. Yeah, is
[1:29:55] Speaker 1: that well?
[1:29:56] Speaker 3: I mean that was what was so special about it
[1:29:57] Speaker 3: was seeing it. It was nominated for Best Vibe down
[1:30:00] Speaker 3: at the Culture Awards. She did her Wet Ass so
[1:30:05] Speaker 3: o S show on Pisce season on my birthday when
[1:30:08] Speaker 3: I was.
[1:30:08] Speaker 1: Crying cheerful tear for tearful Major the planets are alive.
[1:30:15] Speaker 2: I can only hope.
[1:30:16] Speaker 1: We love you, we love you.
[1:30:17] Speaker 3: See the tour, all the shows, money talks, sibling rivalry,
[1:30:22] Speaker 3: et cetera.
[1:30:24] Speaker 1: And we end every episode of the song and if
[1:30:27] Speaker 1: you want hid.
[1:30:38] Speaker 3: And if you want to hear that, listen to so Os, which,
[1:30:40] Speaker 3: by the way, is still trending in the top ten
[1:30:43] Speaker 3: on the board like somehow four year old album crazy.
[1:30:47] Speaker 1: Honestly I would Okay, yeah, so good.
[1:30:54] Speaker 4: Last Culture Reaches is the production by Will Ferrel's Big
[1:30:56] Speaker 4: Money Players and then I Heart Radio.
[1:30:57] Speaker 3: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang,
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[1:31:05] Speaker 1: Edited a mixed by Doug Baine, and our music is
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