# 504: Victor Davis Hanson—The Counter Revolution

An episode of [The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1087110764), 22 Sep 2026, 1 h 34 min.

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What happens when a nation forgets the value of the people who make, build, fix, and grow things? Historian, classicist, farmer, and Hoover Institution Senior Fellow Victor Davis Hanson joins Mike for a wide-ranging conversation about what America values—and what it may have forgotten. They explore the difference between the generalist and the specialist, the importance of the "muscular" trades, and why a strong middle class is essential to a healthy society. Hanson also discusses his new book, The Counterrevolution: The Fall and Rise of Donald Trump and the MAGA Movement, which examines Trump's political comeback and argues that his return to power was part of a broader reaction to the political, cultural, and institutional forces that shaped the years between his two presidencies. Tip o' the hat to our excellent sponsors GoodRanchers.com/ROWE—100% of their meat comes from American farms and ranches and delivered straight to your door. Start your plan and get a FREE Ground Beef Bundle with your firs order. EducationFreedom.org—Contribute to ACE Scholarships to give more children access to the right opportunities, resources and learning environments they need to thrive. In return, you'll receive a dollar-for-dollar federal tax credit. BuildFreedom.us—The best place to find a six-figure, AI-proof job. Build your future. Rebuild America.

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