# Teaching Kids About Friendship

An episode of [Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1082244480), 3 Jun 2026, 17 min.

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Friendship drama is one of the biggest sources of stress for kids — and heartbreak for parents. In this episode, Justin and Kylie unpack the six powerful habits that create strong, lasting friendships and explain how parents can help children build healthier relationships from the very beginning. From loyalty and inclusion to emotional support and trust, these simple but profound friendship skills can shape your child’s confidence, wellbeing, and sense of belonging for years to come. If your child is struggling socially, feeling left out, or constantly caught in friendship ups and downs, this conversation will help you guide them with clarity and compassion. KEY POINTS: • The six friendship habits linked to stronger relationships • Why loyalty matters more than popularity • How gossip quietly destroys trust • The difference between emotional support and “fixing” • Why belonging at school impacts lifelong wellbeing • How small acts of kindness deepen friendships • What parents can teach kids about inclusion and empathy QUOTE OF THE EPISODE: “Kids who understand that friendships require active care are far better equipped to keep them.” RESOURCES MENTIONED: • Research by Michael Argyle and Monika Henderson on friendship • Dr Kelly-Ann Allen’s work on school belonging ACTION STEPS FOR PARENTS: • Talk with your child about what loyalty looks like in friendship • Encourage them to include others and notice who gets left out • Teach them to pause before sharing hurtful information • Model emotional support by listening without trying to fix everything • Help them look for small ways to encourage and serve friends • Remind them that good friendships need effort, kindness, and consistency See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:06] Speaker 1: If you speak to anyone that works with children, any
[0:08] Speaker 1: school leader, any school teacher, any psychologist, anyone any parents
[0:12] Speaker 1: involved with kids, whether they're at kindergarten or reception or
[0:15] Speaker 1: preschool or big school or high school. And if you
[0:19] Speaker 1: ask them what the most common challenge is that they
[0:21] Speaker 1: confront when they're dealing with kids, the answer is almost
[0:25] Speaker 1: always the same. It's friendships. There was a study done
[0:29] Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties that outlines six key concepts that
[0:35] Speaker 1: make friendships work. Today, we dig into that study, have
[0:40] Speaker 1: a look at those six key concepts that make friendships
[0:43] Speaker 1: work and explore how we can help our kids have
[0:45] Speaker 1: better friendships. It's a doctor's desk episode of the Happy
[0:49] Speaker 1: Famili's podcast. Next, Hello, Welcome to the Happy Families podcast,
[0:55] Speaker 1: where you get real parenting solutions every single day. This
[0:58] Speaker 1: is Australia's most downloaded parenting podcast. Where Justin and Kylie
[1:02] Speaker 1: Colson were the parents have six daughters and Kylie. When
[1:05] Speaker 1: you think about the enriching elements of your life, people
[1:08] Speaker 1: are at the core of it all the time. But
[1:10] Speaker 1: how good is a great friendship? Like you think about
[1:13] Speaker 1: the people that matter most, and those friendships enrich and
[1:17] Speaker 1: enlarge our lives in such magnificent ways.
[1:19] Speaker 2: I was actually just reflecting about this the other day,
[1:22] Speaker 2: and I decided to do something about it. Because we've
[1:25] Speaker 2: moved so many times over our married life, I have
[1:29] Speaker 2: friends all over the place, not necessarily in my backyard
[1:33] Speaker 2: or down the road. And as I was reflecting about
[1:37] Speaker 2: the women in my life who have had the most
[1:39] Speaker 2: profound impact on me through their friendship, I went through
[1:44] Speaker 2: my photo role and I started pulling out photos and
[1:47] Speaker 2: printing them up, and I kind of created my wall
[1:50] Speaker 2: of friendship. Yeah, in my closet.
[1:53] Speaker 1: As I was doing the introal, I was hoping going
[1:55] Speaker 1: to refer to that because we didn't set this up,
[1:56] Speaker 1: but every time I walk into our wardrobe, now see
[2:00] Speaker 1: this wall of all of your best friends, photos of
[2:02] Speaker 1: you and your best friends. I'm like, I feel a
[2:05] Speaker 1: bit weird looking at all of your best friends. Although,
[2:07] Speaker 1: but there's such great people, such great people. Today a
[2:10] Speaker 1: conversation about friendships, why our kids struggle so much, and
[2:14] Speaker 1: the six constitutional elements, the six things that researchers have
[2:19] Speaker 1: discovered make friendships work. And it's worth pointing out that
[2:23] Speaker 1: friendships are at the very heart of our well being
[2:26] Speaker 1: and our distress. We've removed a couple of kids from
[2:28] Speaker 1: school because of friendship challenges. That's the distressing part where
[2:32] Speaker 1: things aren't working. And then there's, of course the joy
[2:37] Speaker 1: that comes from good quality friendships. A friend of mine,
[2:39] Speaker 1: she's been on the podcast a couple of times, researcher
[2:41] Speaker 1: in Melbourne, Kelly Ann Allen, talks about school belonging. She's
[2:44] Speaker 1: found that school belonging that is how much you feel
[2:46] Speaker 1: like you belong to the people at school you've got
[2:48] Speaker 1: those friendships. It's a predictor of everything from grades to
[2:51] Speaker 1: life satisfaction. Even life satisfaction a decade after school has ended.
[2:57] Speaker 1: The amount of time that you felt like you belonged
[2:59] Speaker 1: at school impacts ten years later after school, how much
[3:03] Speaker 1: life satisfaction you have. I think it's extraordinary. Whether it's
[3:06] Speaker 1: academic achievement or self concept, behavior thinking, they all improve
[3:11] Speaker 1: when kids feel like they belong.
[3:14] Speaker 2: So you've teased us, there's six things. What's number one?
[3:18] Speaker 1: Okay? So from British psychologists, really influential social psychologist Michael
[3:24] Speaker 1: Argyle and Minica Henderson, his collaborator, did a series of
[3:27] Speaker 1: studies identified these six things. This is the first one.
[3:30] Speaker 1: Real friends are loyal, they stand up for their friend
[3:34] Speaker 1: in their absence. Works is just such a powerful relationship builder,
[3:38] Speaker 1: And we can teach this at any age, including for adults.
[3:43] Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of us who are over eighteen
[3:44] Speaker 1: who struggle with that. If somebody's saying something that's not
[3:47] Speaker 1: very nice about our friend, do we lean and say, really,
[3:50] Speaker 1: I didn't know that about my friend, or do we
[3:51] Speaker 1: say hang on a sec That's not the Kylie Coulson
[3:55] Speaker 1: that I know.
[3:56] Speaker 2: As I've listened to our daughters over the last twenty
[3:59] Speaker 2: years of one of the things that often comes up
[4:02] Speaker 2: for me is I just don't want to be that
[4:04] Speaker 2: person's friend because they talk poorly about other people. Yeah,
[4:08] Speaker 2: and I think that deep down for all of us,
[4:10] Speaker 2: if somebody is willing to say something nasty about somebody
[4:13] Speaker 2: else that's not in the room, what are they saying
[4:15] Speaker 2: about me when I'm not in the room.
[4:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the subconscious fear, isn't it. Yeah, if you
[4:20] Speaker 1: talk about them, what would you say about me if
[4:22] Speaker 1: I'm not there to defend myself.
[4:23] Speaker 2: In my personal experience, it has been quite rare that
[4:27] Speaker 2: I have found someone who has been willing to stand
[4:31] Speaker 2: up for me personally when I haven't been in the
[4:33] Speaker 2: room or.
[4:34] Speaker 1: Anybody, and yet, oh my goodness, it's so powerful. Like
[4:38] Speaker 1: if you're having a conversation with somebody and the conversation
[4:42] Speaker 1: sort of turns a little bit south someone starts saying
[4:45] Speaker 1: something negative about another person, when somebody is brave enough
[4:48] Speaker 1: to say, oh, actually, I don't think that's fair. She
[4:51] Speaker 1: wasn't even there, or I don't think that's there. They're
[4:53] Speaker 1: not here to defend themselves. We don't really know the
[4:55] Speaker 1: context here, but everything I know about them says that
[4:57] Speaker 1: that's not their normal behavior. This signal that that sends
[5:01] Speaker 1: as well, that puts everyone on alert. Oh Kylie is
[5:04] Speaker 1: the kind of person who will defend me, she'll stick
[5:07] Speaker 1: up for me. Like it's just such a I get
[5:09] Speaker 1: goosebumps talking about it. It's such a powerful way to
[5:11] Speaker 1: say I'm a trustworthy, reliable friend. I'm somebody that you
[5:16] Speaker 1: can look to and know that I've got your back.
[5:19] Speaker 1: And it's different to the thing that you'll hear boys
[5:22] Speaker 1: talk about don't dog the boys, don't rid out your mates.
[5:24] Speaker 1: It's not like that. It's just saying, unless you know
[5:28] Speaker 1: all the details, it's probably not appropriate to talk about
[5:31] Speaker 1: that because they're not here to defend themselves and everything
[5:33] Speaker 1: I know about them, they're just not the kind of
[5:35] Speaker 1: person that would do that. I don't think I'm going
[5:38] Speaker 1: to have to check with them and find out what
[5:39] Speaker 1: they would say, because that just doesn't feel right. Powerful,
[5:42] Speaker 1: powerful idea.
[5:43] Speaker 2: That's number two.
[5:44] Speaker 1: So the second idea that Argile and Henderson came up
[5:47] Speaker 1: with was this sharing important news with the friend. So
[5:53] Speaker 1: good friends keep each other in the loop. If your
[5:55] Speaker 1: child hears that a whole bunch of people are going
[5:58] Speaker 1: to go to the movies and someone's being left, then
[6:00] Speaker 1: they stand up for their friend. They encourage other people
[6:02] Speaker 1: to include them and to make sure that they include
[6:05] Speaker 1: them in things as well.
[6:07] Speaker 2: This is really powerful, this one, the idea that a
[6:11] Speaker 2: friend is inclusive.
[6:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I just had a thought, as you said,
[6:16] Speaker 1: that good friends also know what not to share. Like
[6:19] Speaker 1: I remember there was a girl that I interviewed for
[6:21] Speaker 1: my Misconnection book. She talked about how she had just
[6:25] Speaker 1: gone to the bathroom. It was the end of lunch
[6:27] Speaker 1: break at school, and as she was leaving the bathroom,
[6:30] Speaker 1: one of the girls from her friendship group walked into
[6:32] Speaker 1: the bathroom and sawry and goes, oh hey, and called
[6:35] Speaker 1: her by name. I can't remember her name now, but
[6:37] Speaker 1: she said, oh, hey, we were just talking about you,
[6:40] Speaker 1: and we've decided that you're the judgest person in our group.
[6:45] Speaker 1: So number one, no loyalty because everyone's talking about you.
[6:49] Speaker 1: But number two, all the girls are sitting around judging
[6:51] Speaker 1: whose judges, and they choose to judge the person who's
[6:54] Speaker 1: not there as the judges. And then this girl goes
[6:56] Speaker 1: and says, I thought i'd let you know you're the judgest, Like, congratulations,
[6:59] Speaker 1: you've won a prize. So knowing what to share and
[7:02] Speaker 1: what not to share and how to share those things,
[7:04] Speaker 1: it's kind of like that whole.
[7:07] Speaker 2: Like there's so much nuance in that though, and we're
[7:09] Speaker 2: asking our teenagers, whose brains are still developing to understand it.
[7:15] Speaker 2: But I think the easiest way to help our children
[7:18] Speaker 2: understand is what do you hope to achieve by sharing
[7:21] Speaker 2: this boom? Yes? Yes, So if you share that somebody
[7:25] Speaker 2: hates them and they've just said the most awful things
[7:27] Speaker 2: about them, what are you hoping that's going to achieve? Yeah? Yeah,
[7:30] Speaker 2: it's not elevating your friend, it's actually like completely destroying
[7:34] Speaker 2: her in one moment. And so yeah, I think that
[7:38] Speaker 2: that's a really powerful thing to help our kids understand.
[7:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe a question to ask your child is would
[7:44] Speaker 1: you want to know this if the roles were reversed,
[7:47] Speaker 1: Like if everyone's talking about how stinky your breath is,
[7:49] Speaker 1: would you like somebody to come and tell you that
[7:51] Speaker 1: was what the conversation was or would it be better
[7:53] Speaker 1: to not know?
[7:54] Speaker 2: I think as teenagers, though, we often think we want
[7:57] Speaker 2: to know.
[7:58] Speaker 1: Yes, that's a good point.
[7:59] Speaker 2: We want, like, if you're talking about me, I want it.
[8:01] Speaker 1: I have to know.
[8:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, But why why do you want to know? Ye?
[8:04] Speaker 2: How does that impact how you feel about yourself? How
[8:06] Speaker 2: does that impact how you feel about other people? How
[8:08] Speaker 2: does it impact the way you interact.
[8:11] Speaker 1: There's a prace that I've used on the podcast once
[8:14] Speaker 1: or twice, and that is what other people think of you.
[8:16] Speaker 2: It's none of your business?
[8:17] Speaker 1: Is none of your business?
[8:18] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[8:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's their business. Okay, let's do the third one
[8:21] Speaker 1: and then we going to take a quick break provide
[8:23] Speaker 1: emotional support when it's needed. So I just should highlight
[8:27] Speaker 1: here this third element of great friendships does not mean
[8:30] Speaker 1: that we need to be therapist to our friends. In fact,
[8:32] Speaker 1: I think it's exactly the opposite. It just means that
[8:34] Speaker 1: we show up when they're having a hard time. Emotional
[8:37] Speaker 1: support means you're not emotion coaching. You're just sitting with
[8:40] Speaker 1: your friend because I've had a rough day and checking
[8:42] Speaker 1: in and saying sounds like it was a rough day.
[8:45] Speaker 1: That's what good friends do.
[8:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just about holding space for big emotions, allowing
[8:51] Speaker 2: your friend to have event if they need to have event.
[8:54] Speaker 2: I was in a tricky situation for a number of years.
[8:56] Speaker 2: My four closest friends happened to all be sisters in law. Yes, yes,
[9:03] Speaker 2: and inevitably, family dynamics are challenging. They're tricky. Someone upsets,
[9:08] Speaker 2: somebody yet frustrated, and so I would be in this
[9:11] Speaker 2: position where I would often be sitting with one of
[9:13] Speaker 2: them and they would just vent. Yeah. And I like
[9:17] Speaker 2: to think that I was able to play the place
[9:19] Speaker 2: of Switzerland.
[9:20] Speaker 1: I just realized there were four brothers and you were
[9:23] Speaker 1: like really really tight with all four of their wives. Yes, yeah, yeah,
[9:28] Speaker 1: And you would come home and say, oh, there's some
[9:32] Speaker 1: stuff going on with that family at the moment, and
[9:35] Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be friends with all of them
[9:38] Speaker 1: and to defend them when they're not present and say
[9:40] Speaker 1: I know that must be tough, and well, it sounds
[9:42] Speaker 1: like you've had a rough day, like you were doing
[9:43] Speaker 1: all of the things, providing emotional support when it's needed,
[9:45] Speaker 1: sharing important news but not sharing the wrong stuff, and
[9:49] Speaker 1: standing up for the friend of their absence. That's why
[9:51] Speaker 1: people love you so much. Such a good friend. Hey,
[9:53] Speaker 1: we need to take a quick break. After the break,
[9:55] Speaker 1: the last three things that Michael Argyle and Minaic Henderson
[9:58] Speaker 1: found make the great friendships that we need to teach
[10:02] Speaker 1: our kids about. So they were We're back into the
[10:12] Speaker 1: Happy Families podcast as we count down six different things
[10:15] Speaker 1: that build strong friendships. Number four Okay, the fourth one
[10:20] Speaker 1: is trusting and confiding each other. So what our gyle
[10:23] Speaker 1: On Henderson found is that friendship deepens when there's sharing,
[10:28] Speaker 1: like when you share something real, something I was gonna
[10:30] Speaker 1: say vulnerable, but it's not even about vulnerability. Sometimes it
[10:33] Speaker 1: is once you get to a certain point, but just
[10:35] Speaker 1: sharing real things about yourself. I guess it feels a
[10:38] Speaker 1: little bit risky, and maybe for all the kids that
[10:41] Speaker 1: it is, but it unlocks deeper commitment and deeper relationship.
[10:45] Speaker 1: Like I was on a bike ride in the last
[10:47] Speaker 1: couple of days with a maid of mine, and while
[10:49] Speaker 1: we were talking, I just felt like our relationships reached
[10:52] Speaker 1: a point where I shared some stuff with him that
[10:54] Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't share with people that I know but
[10:57] Speaker 1: I am not friends with. But over time friendship deepens,
[11:01] Speaker 1: you start to reveal a bit more. I was thinking
[11:03] Speaker 1: about this recently. What's your take on that? Or I
[11:07] Speaker 1: had this challenge the other day and I'm not sure
[11:09] Speaker 1: if I dealt with it quite the right way. What
[11:10] Speaker 1: would you do in this situation? So you're not just
[11:13] Speaker 1: passing on information, You're actually opening yourself up to influence.
[11:16] Speaker 1: You're saying, I trust you with my feelings, my insecurities,
[11:19] Speaker 1: my challenges, my difficulties, And I think that there's real
[11:22] Speaker 1: power in trusting and confiding in the other person. It's
[11:26] Speaker 1: just that sometimes kids go there a little bit early,
[11:28] Speaker 1: and sometimes kids don't go there at all. And I
[11:31] Speaker 1: might add, this is your superpower. This is the bit
[11:33] Speaker 1: that you do so well, which is why you have
[11:35] Speaker 1: such red friendships.
[11:36] Speaker 2: What's number five?
[11:37] Speaker 1: Do you know what? This is what you do? I
[11:40] Speaker 1: think this one's your best one of all. This is
[11:42] Speaker 1: the one you do them all so well. But the
[11:45] Speaker 1: fifth one is volunteering help when it's required. If there's
[11:48] Speaker 1: one thing that I know about you, it's that you
[11:50] Speaker 1: just have this desire to serve other people like you
[11:54] Speaker 1: love people so much, and you look for opportunities to
[11:57] Speaker 1: serve them. You're always thinking about them. If you're in
[11:58] Speaker 1: the shops, you see something, you think, oh, that little trinket,
[12:01] Speaker 1: that little idea that would be so good for somebody.
[12:04] Speaker 1: And the keyword is volunteering rather than waiting to be asked.
[12:06] Speaker 1: Like a good friend notices when someone's struggling and they
[12:09] Speaker 1: offer help without being prompted. From a kid's point of view,
[12:13] Speaker 1: this is the child who sees a classmate struggling to
[12:16] Speaker 1: carry something and they say, hey, do you want some
[12:18] Speaker 1: help with that? Or let me get the door for you.
[12:21] Speaker 1: Just asking can I help, or stepping in and doing
[12:25] Speaker 1: the thing is one of friendship's core skills. And to me,
[12:30] Speaker 1: that is the thing that you do best of all.
[12:32] Speaker 2: I love making a positive difference in people's lives, but
[12:35] Speaker 2: it's not actually about me. It's about wanting to see
[12:39] Speaker 2: them happy, wanting to see them experience joy, even if
[12:46] Speaker 2: life is tough. Right now. The other night, I was
[12:49] Speaker 2: having a conversation with one of our daughters, and we
[12:52] Speaker 2: were just talking about as part of my wall in
[12:55] Speaker 2: my closet and talking about these women who've influenced us.
[13:00] Speaker 2: And she mentioned one of my friends and just said
[13:04] Speaker 2: that she was somebody who had really impacted her at
[13:07] Speaker 2: a time in her life when she was really struggling.
[13:10] Speaker 2: And I kind of just very imprompt you. I just
[13:14] Speaker 2: I grabbed my phone and I pulled up Marco Polo
[13:17] Speaker 2: and I pulled up my friend.
[13:18] Speaker 1: For those who are not familiar with Marco Polo, it's
[13:20] Speaker 1: kind of like a.
[13:22] Speaker 2: Snapchat for adults Snapchat for help.
[13:24] Speaker 1: It's a video messaging app where you record a video
[13:26] Speaker 1: of yourself and then you send it to your.
[13:28] Speaker 2: Friend and then and they listen to it when they've
[13:30] Speaker 2: got time.
[13:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, except some of your friends send you like forty
[13:33] Speaker 1: five minute long videos.
[13:34] Speaker 2: Because we sit in the car and we talk, but
[13:35] Speaker 2: we know that our timing doesn't connect with each other.
[13:38] Speaker 2: So it's great. But I picked it up and I said,
[13:41] Speaker 2: I'm putting my daughter on the spot. But she's just
[13:43] Speaker 2: shared something with me that's so important for you to
[13:45] Speaker 2: know right now. And she sent me a message back
[13:48] Speaker 2: she was bailing her eyes out. Did exactly what I
[13:50] Speaker 2: needed it to do and she just said thank you
[13:53] Speaker 2: for sharing that with me. She's gone through a really
[13:55] Speaker 2: hard time right now. She's feeling like she's just failing
[13:59] Speaker 2: in all the areas that matter. And to know that
[14:03] Speaker 2: just her small efforts to do something when she recognized
[14:06] Speaker 2: our daughter was having a hard time, has had such
[14:08] Speaker 2: a profound impact was powerful. I love it. It didn't cost anything,
[14:12] Speaker 2: it didn't take much time. But it's just recognizing that
[14:17] Speaker 2: people need to know how important they are in our lives,
[14:20] Speaker 2: and sometimes we just don't make the effort.
[14:22] Speaker 1: Here's the last one making an effort to make the
[14:25] Speaker 1: other person happy. So that's what you did there. You
[14:30] Speaker 1: saw an opportunity to send a message to a friend
[14:33] Speaker 1: that you knew would make a cry tears of joy,
[14:36] Speaker 1: the right kind of tears. It's when you remember your
[14:39] Speaker 1: friend's birthday, you remember something that's important to them. You
[14:42] Speaker 1: saved them a seat, You say I thought of you
[14:45] Speaker 1: when I saw this. You send them an image of
[14:48] Speaker 1: you at their favorite restaurant and say, wish you were
[14:50] Speaker 1: here with me right now. Maybe is that always friendly?
[14:52] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[14:53] Speaker 1: Sometimes that could be going. That sounded good when I
[14:55] Speaker 1: thought it. I'm not sure about it now, that I've
[14:57] Speaker 1: said it. Kids who grow up understanding that friendships require
[15:03] Speaker 1: active what's the word maintenance, development, input, ongoing, active consideration
[15:14] Speaker 1: are far better equipped to keep them. So our time
[15:17] Speaker 1: is well and truly up, Kylie, But I want to
[15:19] Speaker 1: walk through those six again and we'll put them into
[15:21] Speaker 1: the show notes. The six elements that make friendships flourish.
[15:25] Speaker 1: Standing up for the friend in their absence, sharing important
[15:29] Speaker 1: news with the friend, providing emotional support when it's needed,
[15:33] Speaker 1: trusting and confiding in each other, volunteering help when it's required,
[15:38] Speaker 1: and making an effort to make the other person happy.
[15:44] Speaker 1: And this study was done in the eighties, like this
[15:46] Speaker 1: is a forty plus year old study now, But those
[15:50] Speaker 1: six rules, they're still the right ones even in the
[15:53] Speaker 1: age of social media, the digital age, the age of AI.
[15:56] Speaker 1: Get the kids off character dot AI, get them off
[15:59] Speaker 1: social media and get them having genuine friendships where they
[16:02] Speaker 1: have these kinds of experiences, and they will, oh my goodness,
[16:06] Speaker 1: they they'll have such rich, enlarged lives.
[16:10] Speaker 2: And I think you can put a price tag on
[16:12] Speaker 2: a good friend, someone who will experience the highs and
[16:16] Speaker 2: lows of life with you. Just it makes life more meaningful.
[16:21] Speaker 1: In the show notes, we will link to the study
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