# Raising Kids Who Think Deeply About Relationships

An episode of [Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1082244480), 26 Mar 2026, 18 min.

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A song lyric stopped us in our tracks… and turned into one of the most powerful parenting conversations we’ve ever had. In this episode, a casual car ride, a classic song, and a teen’s perspective collide, revealing how differently our kids see relationships, accountability, and respect. If you’ve ever struggled to start “the talk” (or worried you’re doing it wrong), this episode will change everything. Because the best conversations don’t start with scripts… they start with moments. KEY POINTS • Why we overcomplicate “big talks” with our kids • The surprising power of everyday moments (music, movies, car rides) • What one teen girl noticed in a famous song lyric - and why it matters • The difference between explaining behaviour and excusing it • How to build trust so kids want to talk to you • Why timing and tone matter more than the “perfect words” QUOTE OF THE EPISODE “Big conversations don’t need big moments — they just need small openings.” RESOURCES MENTIONED • Consent Can’t Wait campaign • Boys by Dr Justin Coulson (releasing June - preorder now) ACTION STEPS FOR PARENTS • Use what’s already around you - songs, shows, social media - as conversation starters • Keep it short and low-pressure (think 10 minutes, not a lecture) • Let your child lead when possible - curiosity beats control • Ask more questions than you answer • Revisit conversations later to deepen understanding • Focus on connection first, correction second See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: Hello, this is the Happy Families podcast. We're trying to
[0:08] Speaker 1: record this and we have a childhood is going in
[0:12] Speaker 1: the background because she wants us and we can't do it.
[0:15] Speaker 2: This is family life. We're trying to keep it as
[0:17] Speaker 2: real for you as we possibly can.
[0:19] Speaker 1: How do you have hard conversations about tricky topics when
[0:22] Speaker 1: kids don't want to talk to you, or when you're
[0:25] Speaker 1: reading a parenting book and the script just doesn't make sense?
[0:29] Speaker 1: Talk about that with Older Better Tomorrow Today and family Photos,
[0:35] Speaker 1: they often feel what's the word, Kylie, disastrous?
[0:40] Speaker 3: Hard just hard work.
[0:42] Speaker 1: We might have just nailed family photos, but there's a
[0:45] Speaker 1: story behind it and we're going to share that with
[0:46] Speaker 1: you next as well. It's Older Better Tomorrow, our Friday
[0:49] Speaker 1: edition of the Happy Families podcast right after this. Hello,
[0:54] Speaker 1: and welcome to a Happy Families podcast where you get
[0:57] Speaker 1: real parenting solutions every single day.
[1:00] Speaker 2: This is Australia's most downloaded parenting podcast.
[1:02] Speaker 1: We are Justin and Kylie Colson, were the parents of
[1:03] Speaker 1: six children, are six daughters and one grand daughter. And Kylie,
[1:08] Speaker 1: you're going to kicks off today with no actually I'm
[1:10] Speaker 1: going to kicks off today. There are two things that
[1:11] Speaker 1: I quickly need to share with you. The first was
[1:14] Speaker 1: a conversation that I had with Emily, our eleven year old,
[1:17] Speaker 1: the other day. She wanted to know about money. She
[1:19] Speaker 1: was trying to understand something about compensation, but that's not
[1:23] Speaker 1: what she was asking about. She was asking me about constipation.
[1:30] Speaker 3: I couldn't work out how that had.
[1:31] Speaker 2: Anything to do with money.
[1:33] Speaker 1: She's like, dad, I can't remember the sentence that she
[1:36] Speaker 1: led into it with, but she, like I said, financially
[1:39] Speaker 1: oriented and she started talking about constipation, and I just thought,
[1:43] Speaker 1: this is brilliant.
[1:44] Speaker 2: This is absolutely brilliant. I love it.
[1:46] Speaker 1: Constipation, compensation, what's the difference? Also a quick email. We
[1:51] Speaker 1: get emails most days podcasts at Happy Families dot com
[1:54] Speaker 1: dot dot.
[1:55] Speaker 2: I Lou dot au.
[1:57] Speaker 1: We love hearing from you about what's going on in
[2:00] Speaker 1: your life or what you're enjoying on the pod. Brooklyn
[2:02] Speaker 1: from New Zealand was kind enough to pop into our
[2:05] Speaker 1: inbox a couple of days ago after catching up on
[2:09] Speaker 1: our wedding anniversary podcast episode where You've Forgot the Anniversary
[2:13] Speaker 1: and I gave you a hard time, and we just
[2:15] Speaker 1: laughed our way through the five things that have made
[2:16] Speaker 1: our marriage great and the two things that you decided
[2:18] Speaker 1: to add on the back of it. Hey, Justin, Kylie
[2:21] Speaker 1: and team just wanted to pop in and say today's
[2:23] Speaker 1: episode about your anniversary was hilarious thanks to the genuine
[2:27] Speaker 1: laugh out loud in my kitchen laughs. I especially love Justin's.
[2:29] Speaker 2: Theme song, just Something. I'm never gonna live that down.
[2:39] Speaker 2: I'm not a silk.
[2:40] Speaker 1: The kids are still walking around the kitchen singing it.
[2:44] Speaker 1: In fact, they know that it upsets me and that
[2:46] Speaker 1: I start silking with a good.
[2:49] Speaker 2: And so they.
[2:50] Speaker 1: Just justin, this is not being such a sook is.
[2:54] Speaker 2: It's gonna They're gonna play it at my funeral. I
[2:56] Speaker 2: think they were like your theme song, it's so good.
[3:02] Speaker 2: Everybody loves it. A little India grand daughter walks around
[3:14] Speaker 2: the house. She's, Kyli, you're amazing, and I'm such a silk.
[3:21] Speaker 3: We might have to rectify that.
[3:23] Speaker 2: And I think.
[3:23] Speaker 1: Anyway, Brooklyn says, I love Justin's theme song. I don't
[3:26] Speaker 1: think they'll ever be forgotten, not least by your own family.
[3:29] Speaker 1: You're both real and helpful.
[3:30] Speaker 2: I love listening to the podcast happ anniversary. Have you
[3:32] Speaker 2: have a great day, Brooklyn? Thank you for that.
[3:34] Speaker 1: Oh, we should do a quick anniversary update That was
[3:36] Speaker 1: not part of the run sheet for today, but let's
[3:38] Speaker 1: just check it in anyway.
[3:40] Speaker 2: What did your plan Hunt?
[3:42] Speaker 3: I decided to drive you crazy.
[3:44] Speaker 2: Literally.
[3:45] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[3:45] Speaker 2: We jumped onto the go kart track.
[3:47] Speaker 3: I've been go karting once with you and we very
[3:50] Speaker 3: first got married, and it scared the living daylights out
[3:52] Speaker 3: of me. I was we were with a large group
[3:55] Speaker 3: of people who were very competent, and here was me
[3:58] Speaker 3: little driving miss Daisy around the track.
[4:01] Speaker 4: I was too scared.
[4:02] Speaker 3: So I decided to.
[4:03] Speaker 1: Give it another got yeah, and that was fun. So
[4:05] Speaker 1: we don't go karting. I lapped you?
[4:07] Speaker 2: You did, I lapped you.
[4:09] Speaker 1: I was expert level, I think. But that was a
[4:13] Speaker 1: lot of fun. Okay, let's hear your I'll do better tomorrow.
[4:16] Speaker 1: This is family photos, family photos last weekend.
[4:21] Speaker 3: Family photos don't happen enough in our house.
[4:24] Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, they have happened way too many times.
[4:27] Speaker 3: The reason they don't happen enough is because it is
[4:32] Speaker 3: so tricky. There's just making sure that there's eight people
[4:36] Speaker 3: who are all smiling at the same time and actually have.
[4:39] Speaker 2: A I need to wind this back a bit good demeanor.
[4:43] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[4:43] Speaker 1: So it starts with what am I going to wear?
[4:46] Speaker 1: So for anyone who has a daughter, you know what
[4:48] Speaker 1: it's like, what am I gonna wear? We have six
[4:51] Speaker 1: daughters who are all saying what am I gonna wear?
[4:54] Speaker 1: And it's torture.
[4:55] Speaker 3: And I have been trying to coordinate what everyone was
[4:59] Speaker 3: gonna wear for it up three weeks.
[5:01] Speaker 2: Whenever we were all.
[5:02] Speaker 1: Together, I was going to say, almost three decades is
[5:04] Speaker 1: what you've been in front of coordin?
[5:05] Speaker 3: Well, yes, but for these one specifically, and every time
[5:09] Speaker 3: at least one child would kind of come to the
[5:11] Speaker 3: party and say maybe I could wear this or this.
[5:14] Speaker 3: And the challenge is everybody can make a decision, but
[5:17] Speaker 3: until you see everybody together, you don't know if it's
[5:19] Speaker 3: all going to work. And it was about an hour
[5:23] Speaker 3: before we were supposed to leave for our location and
[5:27] Speaker 3: everyone starts going.
[5:28] Speaker 2: Mom, can you come and tell me what to wear?
[5:31] Speaker 3: YEP, it was a bit stressful.
[5:33] Speaker 1: Three weeks of text messages and let's work it out.
[5:35] Speaker 1: And now before anyway, you got everyone standing together against
[5:38] Speaker 1: the wall and looking at us and taking photos of
[5:40] Speaker 1: us in the living room just to make sure it matched.
[5:42] Speaker 1: And you were satisfied enough After a couple of additional
[5:45] Speaker 1: clothing changes. So we jumped in the car and drive
[5:48] Speaker 1: to where the photographer told us to meet. It had
[5:50] Speaker 1: been raining all day, it was cloudy. We wanted the
[5:52] Speaker 1: sunset and guess what, law we got it.
[5:56] Speaker 3: We got it, but not before Little Indie fell asleep
[6:00] Speaker 3: on the drive.
[6:01] Speaker 2: Because family photos are not easy. And you know, it's
[6:03] Speaker 2: like when you wake up a toddler and you're like, now,
[6:05] Speaker 2: smile for the camera. She was not happy.
[6:08] Speaker 3: She was not happy. But what I wanted to share
[6:12] Speaker 3: was how sometimes in family life we're kind of seeing
[6:17] Speaker 3: things happen around us. And on this particular day, as
[6:23] Speaker 3: I was watching the photographer and she was telling us,
[6:25] Speaker 3: oh my gosh, this is gorgeous. You guys are making
[6:27] Speaker 3: this so easy. This is great, perfect. You know, she
[6:30] Speaker 3: was giving us all the affirmation we needed. But for me,
[6:34] Speaker 3: as a participant, I was standing there thinking, this just
[6:36] Speaker 3: feels really ordinary. There's nothing special in this moment. And
[6:42] Speaker 3: as we were leaving that day, she said to me,
[6:45] Speaker 3: she said, oh that was great, and I said, do
[6:46] Speaker 3: you think we got the money shot? I told her
[6:48] Speaker 3: exactly what I wanted and she said, oh, Kylie, she said,
[6:51] Speaker 3: You've got lots of money shots. But I still didn't
[6:53] Speaker 3: believe her, and so that night when she went home,
[6:56] Speaker 3: she actually just sent me a quick snap. She'd taken
[6:59] Speaker 3: a photo of the photo on her computer screen, so
[7:03] Speaker 3: she said, don't look at the faces, she said, I'm
[7:05] Speaker 3: just showing you the vista. This is what you've got.
[7:10] Speaker 3: And oh my gosh, not only did I have no
[7:16] Speaker 3: idea what the sunset was doing behind us as she
[7:20] Speaker 3: was taking those photos, but it was like this one
[7:25] Speaker 3: brief moment in time captured and all my joys kind
[7:31] Speaker 3: of just accumulated into one small moment. I just felt
[7:35] Speaker 3: so grateful. I love watching our family grow, and we've
[7:38] Speaker 3: now got these two men in our picture on top.
[7:43] Speaker 4: Of you, two extra men. That's right, we only had
[7:51] Speaker 4: one man and our photos, and now we have three.
[7:54] Speaker 4: And to see the joy that they bring to our
[7:56] Speaker 4: daughter's lives and bring to us, it just feels like
[8:01] Speaker 4: all of those tricky moments in life have led us
[8:07] Speaker 4: to this joyful moment.
[8:09] Speaker 2: Makes you emotional.
[8:10] Speaker 3: It does make me emotional, because, like I said, you
[8:13] Speaker 3: kind of miss it all unless somebody's there reminding you
[8:18] Speaker 3: to actually stop for just a moment and take it in.
[8:22] Speaker 3: It's so easy to get caught up in all of
[8:24] Speaker 3: the crazy of family life. So I take home as
[8:27] Speaker 3: just take a moment to take stock, take photos, and
[8:31] Speaker 3: take photos.
[8:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, can I add a little note there as well.
[8:34] Speaker 1: Two quick things about the family photos. Number one, it
[8:37] Speaker 1: was the first time ever that we haven't had any
[8:38] Speaker 1: major fights during family photos, with the kids getting upset
[8:41] Speaker 1: with each other or saying that's.
[8:42] Speaker 2: It, I've had enough photos, no more photos.
[8:44] Speaker 3: As we were sitting around the table, they actually commented
[8:46] Speaker 3: this was the best family photos ever.
[8:48] Speaker 2: And I was like, we're older. Everyone's older now than
[8:51] Speaker 2: they've ever been. Like, everyone's learned how to regulate their emotions.
[8:54] Speaker 3: We nearly have a full sweep of adults. We shouldn't
[8:58] Speaker 3: have any.
[8:58] Speaker 1: Issue yet to see the photo, but we did get
[9:02] Speaker 1: a boys photo. We've never had a boy's photo before.
[9:05] Speaker 1: But there was me with the two sons in law,
[9:08] Speaker 1: and they're both about fifteen centimeters taller than me.
[9:10] Speaker 3: You were pretty sure.
[9:12] Speaker 2: I'm just tiny time little kid in between these two
[9:15] Speaker 2: giant men. After the break, figuring out how to have tricky.
[9:20] Speaker 1: Conversations about difficult topics in a way that brings the
[9:25] Speaker 1: kids in. It's always a surprise, but it can be done.
[9:29] Speaker 1: I'll tell you how next on The Happy Family's Podcast.
[9:31] Speaker 1: To stay with us, We're back. This is The Happy
[9:41] Speaker 1: Family's Podcast. Thank you so much for choosing to spend
[9:43] Speaker 1: your Friday morning with us. We hope that this is
[9:45] Speaker 1: making your family happy, or at least letting you know
[9:47] Speaker 1: that your family's no different to all the other families.
[9:50] Speaker 2: That is. Life can be tricky.
[9:52] Speaker 1: So I haven't shared this at the start of the pod,
[9:55] Speaker 1: and I probably should have. But I've done another draft
[9:59] Speaker 1: of book and this week I finally finished it. And
[10:02] Speaker 1: this is the absolute last draft because the book gets
[10:05] Speaker 1: printed and published and put on shelves in about two months,
[10:07] Speaker 1: comes out June sixteenth. What are we up to? Like, Yeah,
[10:12] Speaker 1: two and a half months and it's going to be
[10:13] Speaker 1: on shelves. So the last few weeks I've been doing
[10:16] Speaker 1: a final draft and it ended up being a fairly
[10:18] Speaker 1: major overhaul of the book.
[10:20] Speaker 2: But the book is done. The book is done. The
[10:22] Speaker 2: book is done. The angels are singing, My goodness, the
[10:29] Speaker 2: book is done.
[10:29] Speaker 3: We're singing.
[10:30] Speaker 1: So I was writing this chapter about talking to kids
[10:36] Speaker 1: about consent and intimacy and how to have difficult conversations
[10:39] Speaker 1: Kylie and really really tough topic to write about, and
[10:44] Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, well, how do we have these
[10:46] Speaker 1: chats with our kids? And I wrote the following about
[10:49] Speaker 1: starting the conversation. I said, I'm an ambassador for this
[10:51] Speaker 1: strain Government's consent Can't Wait campaign. Government research shows big
[10:55] Speaker 1: holes exist in parent conversations with kids on this tricky topic.
[10:59] Speaker 1: That's because we make it too big of a deal.
[11:01] Speaker 1: So instead make it simple, dumb it down. A ten
[11:03] Speaker 1: minute chat while driving can be more effective than an
[11:06] Speaker 1: hour long formal discussion. A consistent Sunday morning check in
[11:09] Speaker 1: is valuable. Use media as gateways when sexual content appears
[11:13] Speaker 1: in movies, TV or social media, use it as a
[11:15] Speaker 1: discussion starter, whether it's problematic or uplifting content. So I've
[11:19] Speaker 1: written that, and I was just thinking, it feels empty,
[11:22] Speaker 1: it feels trite. Do parents really do this? And as
[11:25] Speaker 1: we were driving two family photos, I was driving Spotify
[11:30] Speaker 1: as well as the car. I decided that I was
[11:32] Speaker 1: in charge of the music grub and the kids and
[11:34] Speaker 1: John Lennon's nineteen seventy one classic Jealous Guy came on
[11:40] Speaker 1: Spotify and I turned it up and I said, oh,
[11:42] Speaker 1: this is such a good song. And then about thirty
[11:44] Speaker 1: seconds in, I was like, actually, I like Brian Ferry
[11:47] Speaker 1: Roxy Music. I think that's the better one. So I
[11:48] Speaker 1: put that on instead, and as the song was playing
[11:52] Speaker 1: out for I'm sure everybody knows it. Because of copyright,
[11:55] Speaker 1: we can't play on the podcast, but I'm sure everyone
[11:57] Speaker 1: knows the lyrics. I didn't mean to hurt you. I'm
[12:00] Speaker 1: sorry that I made you cry. I didn't want to
[12:02] Speaker 1: hurt you. I'm just a jealous guy. So the chorus
[12:05] Speaker 1: is playing and our fifteen soon to be sixteen year
[12:08] Speaker 1: old daughter is sitting in the back and she says
[12:11] Speaker 1: that sounds like that's a pretty dodgy lyric, Dad, and
[12:14] Speaker 1: I paused. I was like, hang on, this this is
[12:16] Speaker 1: a classic. This song's been around since nineteen seventy one
[12:18] Speaker 1: or nineteen eighty one. For the cover, and I wanted
[12:21] Speaker 1: to just burn her. I don't know, that's probably too strong,
[12:25] Speaker 1: but I wanted to put her in a place.
[12:26] Speaker 2: I was like, there's nothing dodgy about this. This is
[12:29] Speaker 2: really good.
[12:30] Speaker 1: And then Lily said to me, well, hang on a sec.
[12:34] Speaker 1: Here's a guy who's refusing to be accountable for his actions.
[12:36] Speaker 1: He hurt her, and now he's saying, oh, I didn't
[12:39] Speaker 1: mean to I'm just a jealous guy. Like he's downplaying
[12:43] Speaker 1: the impact of his behavior and the way that it's
[12:46] Speaker 1: affecting her and he's hurt her.
[12:49] Speaker 3: What I loved was that you actually then asked her,
[12:52] Speaker 3: explain to me what you mean, and she said, well,
[12:55] Speaker 3: if I was dating a guy and then I went
[13:01] Speaker 3: and spent some time just chatting with another guy and
[13:04] Speaker 3: he gets upset with me and treats me poorly and
[13:08] Speaker 3: then apologizes because he's jealous. She said, that's just that's
[13:15] Speaker 3: poor excuse for treating me poorly, Like I don't deserve
[13:19] Speaker 3: to be treated like that. I've done nothing wrong and
[13:23] Speaker 3: he doesn't have the right to treat me that way.
[13:27] Speaker 1: I found it really just a fascinating conversation. It showed
[13:31] Speaker 1: perhaps a generational divide. It also showed that context is everything.
[13:35] Speaker 1: In fact, I ended up following the conversation up with
[13:37] Speaker 1: her the next day because I couldn't let it go.
[13:39] Speaker 1: Like it really it got out of my skin. It
[13:42] Speaker 1: was like a knuckle noogie, knuckles going into my ribs.
[13:44] Speaker 1: I was like, we're so much more alert today to
[13:47] Speaker 1: things like coercive control and possessiveness and the emotional dynamics
[13:53] Speaker 1: of unhealthy relationships, and jealousy is one of the most
[13:58] Speaker 1: commonly cited precursors to intimate partner violence. And I didn't
[14:04] Speaker 1: mean to hurt you as a phrase in twenty twenty six,
[14:07] Speaker 1: that carries a whole lot of baggage that it probably
[14:10] Speaker 1: just didn't carry previously. But and this is what I
[14:13] Speaker 1: said to Lily, there's also a counter reading here. And
[14:16] Speaker 1: I'm not trying to downplay what she's saying, because it's
[14:18] Speaker 1: relevant and it matters, and if you've been in that
[14:20] Speaker 1: situation then it's impactful. But the counter reading could show
[14:25] Speaker 1: a shift in the culture where once this was a
[14:28] Speaker 1: tender and emotionally sensitive guy, a guy who's actually brave
[14:31] Speaker 1: enough to name his jealousy, And now we're saying, well,
[14:35] Speaker 1: he's dangerous, whereas once upon a time we would have said, oh, no,
[14:38] Speaker 1: good on him, because he's realized that his jealousy is
[14:40] Speaker 1: leading him to act in unhelpful ways. And so then
[14:43] Speaker 1: we had this fascinating conversation about the difference between acknowledging
[14:45] Speaker 1: feelings and there or using them as an excuse for
[14:48] Speaker 1: harmful behavior. No Sunday morning chat needed, no formalized discussion,
[14:55] Speaker 1: just an impromptu chat because of a song lyric.
[14:58] Speaker 2: That came up.
[15:00] Speaker 1: And as I walked away from that, I thought to myself,
[15:02] Speaker 1: these conversations are easier than we often make them out
[15:06] Speaker 1: to be. We can have tough conversations about just about anything.
[15:09] Speaker 1: You see something on the teller, you hear something on
[15:10] Speaker 1: a podcast, you listen to.
[15:12] Speaker 2: A song lyric.
[15:15] Speaker 1: There's just so many opportunities for really great conversations with
[15:18] Speaker 1: the kids, and you can come back to them later
[15:19] Speaker 1: and say, I was thinking about that thing that you said,
[15:21] Speaker 1: and I really think that there was wisdom or I
[15:24] Speaker 1: think you missed the mark. Like there's so many opportunities
[15:27] Speaker 1: for great conversations with our kids if we'll take them.
[15:29] Speaker 2: And I don't know.
[15:30] Speaker 1: I just got very, very excited about talking to my
[15:33] Speaker 1: daughter about a classic nineteen seventy one nineteen eighty one song.
[15:37] Speaker 3: I think the reason why this worked so well, though,
[15:39] Speaker 3: is because Lily was at the lead. She actually wanted
[15:43] Speaker 3: to engage in this. And the challenge we sometimes have
[15:47] Speaker 3: with our kids is that if we're the ones who
[15:49] Speaker 3: are constantly initiating the conversation, then it just feels like, yeah, oh,
[15:54] Speaker 3: mom and dad want to teach me again, or Mum
[15:56] Speaker 3: and Dad giving me a lecture, or so finding the
[16:00] Speaker 3: middle ground is really important.
[16:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I still feel like I had to
[16:05] Speaker 1: make sure that she knew as well that just because
[16:07] Speaker 1: somebody hurts you doesn't mean that you should close the
[16:09] Speaker 1: door on them forever. Like people make mistakes. There's and
[16:12] Speaker 1: I think and she'd read, context is everything.
[16:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, context matters. We're listening to this crooning song and
[16:19] Speaker 3: it's very easy to kind of see one side to it,
[16:22] Speaker 3: but until you're actually in the.
[16:23] Speaker 2: Experience, family life is stretching. Family life is stretching. Anyway.
[16:28] Speaker 1: We really hope that you've enjoyed the podcast today. Thank
[16:29] Speaker 1: you so much for listening to the Happy Families podcast,
[16:31] Speaker 1: which is produced by Justin Rulan from Bridge Media. Mim
[16:35] Speaker 1: Hammonds provides all of our additional admin and other support,
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[16:40] Speaker 1: family happier, we would love for you to visit us
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[16:47] Speaker 2: the pod. Have a great weekend.
[16:49] Speaker 5: She's ca calli couson turning Kason to Grace building world
[17:00] Speaker 5: in this one big, busy place.
[17:07] Speaker 4: Say stop.
[17:09] Speaker 6: At the time you two sat lying the stuff, she said,
[17:16] Speaker 6: you're already in love, just
[17:26] Speaker 5: Yeah, and they believe her in their hearts.

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