# Mogotsi's defence again raised concerns about redacted statements

An episode of [The Midday Report with Mandy Wiener](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1074292047), 23 Oct 2026, 6:24.

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Mandy Wiener speaks to EWN Reporter, Dimakatso Leshoro about Mogotsi's defence raising concerns about redacted statements. The Midday Report with Mandy Wiener is 702 and CapeTalk’s flagship news show, your hour of essential news radio. The show is podcasted every weekday, allowing you to catch up with a 60-minute weekday wrap of the day's main news. It's packed with fast-paced interviews with the day’s newsmakers, as well as those who can make sense of the news and explain what's happening in your world. All the interviews are podcasted for you to catch up and listen to. Thank you for listening to this podcast of The Midday Report Listen live on weekdays between 12:00 and 13:00 (SA Time) to The Midday Report broadcast on 702 https://buff.ly/gk3y0Kj and on CapeTalk https://buff.ly/NnFM3Nk For more from The Midday Report go to https://buff.ly/BTGmL9H and find all the catch-up podcasts here https://buff.ly/LcbDdFI Subscribe to the 702 and CapeTalk daily and weekly newsletters https://buff.ly/v5mfetc Follow us on social media: 702 on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TalkRadio702 702 on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@talkradio702 702 on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/talkradio702/ 702 on X: https://x.com/Radio702 702 on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@radio702 CapeTalk on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CapeTalk CapeTalk on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@capetalk CapeTalk on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ CapeTalk on X: https://x.com/CapeTalk CapeTalk on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CapeTalk567 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: The self-proclaimed fixer, Brown Mokotsi, also appearing in court today.
[0:04] Speaker 1: He's brought what is called a Section 205 application to
[0:08] Speaker 1: access the prosecutor's evidence against him to prepare for trial. Remember,
[0:12] Speaker 1: he was arrested for defeating the ends of justice, perjury,
[0:16] Speaker 1: unlawful possession of a firearm, ammunition. He's tried about 100
[0:19] Speaker 1: times to get bail. He keeps failing. Dimakatsu Lashoro, EWN
[0:23] Speaker 1: reporter on that case for us. Dimakatsu, good afternoon to you.
[0:27] Speaker 1: Take us through what's happening in the Brown-Mahoti matter.
[0:31] Speaker 2: Hi, Bendy. Indeed, he's brought an application where he wants
[0:35] Speaker 2: to know who the state's witnesses are to see the
[0:38] Speaker 2: evidence that's needed to challenge diversion. He's arguing that the
[0:43] Speaker 2: state cannot simply cite security concerns to keep the information
[0:49] Speaker 2: from the defense. As you know, the defense has disclosed
[0:52] Speaker 2: the docket, that is the information that they've got or
[0:54] Speaker 2: the evidence against him, but there are parts of that
[0:57] Speaker 2: evidence that have been redacted. And there is information of
[1:01] Speaker 2: some of the witnesses that's been withheld by the state,
[1:04] Speaker 2: and they've argued that that is for security concerns. But
[1:08] Speaker 2: he says in other matters, that would hold. But in
[1:11] Speaker 2: this instance, given A, that he's in custody, he's been
[1:15] Speaker 2: in custody since May this year, and he's not, you know,
[1:19] Speaker 2: been able to get bail. there's no chance of him
[1:22] Speaker 2: interfering with witnesses. So he wants the identity to know
[1:27] Speaker 2: the names, their details, their addresses, their cell phone records
[1:32] Speaker 2: to see what time they communicated. Does that align with
[1:36] Speaker 2: the time of the alleged shooting? As you know, this
[1:39] Speaker 2: is regarding the incident in a forced arrest last year
[1:42] Speaker 2: where he's alleged to have staged an assassination attempt on
[1:47] Speaker 2: his own life. as a result is facing perjury charges,
[1:52] Speaker 2: defeating the ends of justice and discharging a firearm in
[1:55] Speaker 2: a built-up area. So he wants to determine whether these
[2:01] Speaker 2: witnesses were indeed where the state alleges that they were.
[2:04] Speaker 2: He wants employment records to show what time they were
[2:09] Speaker 2: at work, what time they left work. He wants residential
[2:12] Speaker 2: addresses to see if there are you know, around the
[2:17] Speaker 2: area where the incident took place. This information has not
[2:19] Speaker 2: been disclosed to him by the state. So he's basically
[2:22] Speaker 2: saying this is, you know, is prejudicing him in terms
[2:26] Speaker 2: of his fair rights, his rights rather to a fair trial.
[2:32] Speaker 2: And it's hampering his ability to put up a defense
[2:37] Speaker 2: on the charges. We know that they are preparing towards
[2:41] Speaker 2: a pretrial trial. We are not there yet, obviously, because
[2:45] Speaker 2: there's still arguments about the disclosure that's been made. So
[2:50] Speaker 2: the state in its response has basically said the defense
[2:55] Speaker 2: never served them with the notice or the application itself.
[2:58] Speaker 2: So they can't respond today. They couldn't respond today. So
[3:02] Speaker 2: the case was postponed to afford the state time to
[3:06] Speaker 2: come up with an explanation as to why they have
[3:10] Speaker 2: not given full information to the defense. And then he's
[3:14] Speaker 2: gone on to make a point, Mindy, about the fact
[3:17] Speaker 2: that every time he's brought a bail application, the state
[3:20] Speaker 2: has come up with new information and just basically stating
[3:24] Speaker 2: that this shows that the state is not being open,
[3:28] Speaker 2: not playing open cards with him and trying, if you will,
[3:31] Speaker 2: to frustrate him and keep him behind bars, essentially.
[3:36] Speaker 1: What's the situation with bail now? I know he's brought
[3:39] Speaker 1: like several applications. He's lost all of them. Has he
[3:42] Speaker 1: just kind of accepted that he's going to stick around
[3:45] Speaker 1: in Chukchi until this matter goes to trial?
[3:49] Speaker 2: I don't think he has much of a choice. I mean,
[3:51] Speaker 2: he's brought three bail applications that were all heard by
[3:54] Speaker 2: the same judge, all of the magistrate rather, all of
[3:58] Speaker 2: them on different facts which the magistrate then found were
[4:02] Speaker 2: not new facts. This all had to do with his
[4:05] Speaker 2: address If you recall, Mandy, when he was initially arrested,
[4:09] Speaker 2: Ban Mokhozi was cooperating with, not really cooperating with police.
[4:17] Speaker 2: They had said that they would not oppose bail. The
[4:19] Speaker 2: state was not willing to let him out on bail,
[4:23] Speaker 2: to not oppose his bail. But then he started playing
[4:26] Speaker 2: hide and seek with the investigating officer, would not answer
[4:29] Speaker 2: the phone, would not say where he is, would not
[4:31] Speaker 2: give information. his proper addresses, he ended up giving three
[4:35] Speaker 2: addresses which were all found to not be true. They
[4:38] Speaker 2: could not be verified. And then he came and said, no,
[4:41] Speaker 2: he has new facts. And then those new facts, he
[4:44] Speaker 2: couldn't provide a statement that showed a proof of address.
[4:47] Speaker 2: I mean, it was the most astonishing thing where in court,
[4:51] Speaker 2: the lawyer had to go on the phone, cell phone
[4:54] Speaker 2: to look for a bank statement to verify the address.
[4:59] Speaker 2: They failed in that bit. They came the third bit
[5:02] Speaker 2: at the magistrate's court was when he used an address
[5:05] Speaker 2: that he said he used when he attended the Madlanga Commission,
[5:09] Speaker 2: which was in Johannesburg. And the question was, why didn't
[5:13] Speaker 2: you provide this address before? And there was no response
[5:16] Speaker 2: to that. And then he went on to say, no,
[5:19] Speaker 2: his wife has now gotten a new lease, so he's
[5:23] Speaker 2: got a new address that can be verified. But the
[5:26] Speaker 2: magistrate argued that you've never lived in this place, so
[5:28] Speaker 2: this cannot be said to be addressed because this place
[5:31] Speaker 2: your family moved in while you were in prison. So
[5:34] Speaker 2: that failed at the magistrate's court. He went to the
[5:36] Speaker 2: high court. The high court was like, you know what?
[5:39] Speaker 2: There's no reason for us to interfere in this. You
[5:41] Speaker 2: did not provide. You were not truthful. And maybe you
[5:45] Speaker 2: and I both know if you want to get bail,
[5:47] Speaker 2: if you're arrested, the first thing the investigator officer has
[5:50] Speaker 2: to do Verify it's your home address. If they can't
[5:52] Speaker 2: do that, you will not get bail. So that's where
[5:54] Speaker 2: we are.
[5:55] Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff, Demokato. Thank you very much, Demokato Lashoro, EWN
[5:59] Speaker 1: reporter in court with Brian Makoti on the WhatsApp line.
[6:03] Speaker 1: Marcel Ropoto says, feels like Brian Makoti, Brown, Brian, Brown Makoti,
[6:09] Speaker 1: is the sacrificial lamb. Where is the five big cartel?
[6:13] Speaker 1: He's just the ice boy. He does seem like the intermediary,
[6:16] Speaker 1: the guy who is holding everything together. So do you
[6:18] Speaker 1: reckon he's just the fall guy or do you think
[6:21] Speaker 1: this is the right way for authorities to be going?

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