# The Midday Report: Shadrack Sibiya, Day two of Impeachment Committee, Zuma trial in 2027,AKA, Tibz, fuel hike, weather

An episode of [The Midday Report with Mandy Wiener](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1074292047), 14 Oct 2026, 44 min.

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[0:00] Speaker 1: Every promise, every word, every word.
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[0:28] Speaker 3: Coming up on the show today, Shadrach Sabir's alleged victim
[0:30] Speaker 3: struggling with suicidal thoughts. Kat Matlala abandons his bail application.
[0:35] Speaker 3: The Palapala Impeachment Committee responds in court to the rescission
[0:38] Speaker 3: of the evidence leader. Backlogs at the compensation fund concerning doctors.
[0:43] Speaker 3: And summer has arrived. The Weather Service issues hot weather warnings.
[0:47] Speaker 3: All of that over the next hour.
[0:50] Speaker 4: The Midday Report with Mandy Wiener, streaming on the Prime.
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[1:02] Speaker 3: Welcome to the Midday Report on 702 and Cape Talk
[1:05] Speaker 3: with me, Mandy Wiener. Great to be with you today.
[1:08] Speaker 3: Lots of court cases. We're looking at, of course, the
[1:10] Speaker 3: Shadrach Sabir bail application, the Kat McClallow bail application that
[1:15] Speaker 3: has now been abandoned. We've got the AKA trial that
[1:18] Speaker 3: is continuing. And then in the Western Cape High Court,
[1:21] Speaker 3: we've got that EFF application regarding the Palapala evidence leader.
[1:25] Speaker 3: So much going on in our courts today. So we'll
[1:28] Speaker 3: bring you all of that. So much going on in
[1:30] Speaker 3: the world. Hey, did you see Donald Trump has shared
[1:35] Speaker 3: an AI video in which he wrestles the tiger that
[1:39] Speaker 3: killed the British man in William Chapman at the South
[1:43] Speaker 3: Yorkshire Zoo. So the U.S. president shared the actual footage
[1:47] Speaker 3: of the attack on Truth Social that showed the moments
[1:51] Speaker 3: before he was mauled to death. And then he has
[1:54] Speaker 3: legit just posted this AI video of him playing with
[1:57] Speaker 3: the tiger. I mean, you can't make this stuff up.
[2:00] Speaker 3: It's bizarre. Anyway, if you want to send a WhatsApp
[2:02] Speaker 3: voice note about anything, you can do so.
[2:04] Speaker 7: 072-702-1702, 072-567-1567.
[2:09] Speaker 3: We'll speak to Emma Sadler a bit later on as
[2:11] Speaker 3: well about a video she's posted about nine-year-olds being exposed
[2:15] Speaker 3: to pornography. Do you give your primary school children cell phones?
[2:21] Speaker 3: Her argument is that we should not be giving primary
[2:24] Speaker 3: school children cell phones. Because then they get to see
[2:26] Speaker 3: Donald Trump busy wrestling with a tiger. Send me a
[2:30] Speaker 3: WhatsApp voice note. Let me know what you think about that.
[2:33] Speaker 3: If you think that primary school children should not be
[2:35] Speaker 3: given cell phones. Well, let's start now in the courts
[2:40] Speaker 3: where Shadrach Sabir is currently applying for bail. We've been
[2:45] Speaker 3: hearing the affidavit of a 18-year-old woman who accused Shadrach
[2:50] Speaker 3: Sabir of rape, revealing that she's been struggling with suicidal
[2:53] Speaker 3: thoughts since the alleged incident. the state presenting her affidavit
[2:57] Speaker 3: before the Randberg Magistrates Court today in which she outlined
[3:01] Speaker 3: her objection to Sabir's bail application. Remember, of course, that
[3:05] Speaker 3: the Deputy National Police Commissioner is accused of raping the
[3:09] Speaker 3: 18-year-old and also sexually grooming a 16-year-old minor. So in
[3:14] Speaker 3: that affidavit saying that should Sabir be granted bail, something
[3:18] Speaker 3: worse than rape could happen to her. Well, let's listen
[3:22] Speaker 3: in live now to what is happening, and this feed
[3:24] Speaker 3: is courtesy of Newsroom Africa.
[3:27] Speaker 8: Conversations with Bishop Maumela, to which he can give instructions
[3:31] Speaker 8: to interfere on his behalf.
[3:33] Speaker 1: So that opportunity did not exist.
[3:36] Speaker 8: What we do see is Maumela going on a folly
[3:39] Speaker 8: of his own, addressing the public on the very day
[3:42] Speaker 8: that the applicant appears in.
[3:44] Speaker 1: Court, and making allegations to... that we disassociate ourselves with.
[3:50] Speaker 8: Now, the question is, when on 22 September this court
[3:56] Speaker 8: is informed that there is a cabal at work assisting
[4:00] Speaker 8: the applicant, what, beyond Mr. Mwamela's public statements, is there
[4:07] Speaker 8: to support this allegation? Then we have the evidence of
[4:12] Speaker 8: Rasek Goga, who is employed by the South African police
[4:16] Speaker 8: as a sergeant.
[4:19] Speaker 1: He knows Mr. M very well, and he explains salient,
[4:24] Speaker 1: similar facts to the court. One, Mr.
[4:27] Speaker 8: M has got a propensity to become involved romantically with women.
[4:32] Speaker 1: Two, the questionable lawfulness of Mr. N's income.
[4:38] Speaker 9: Three, Mr.
[4:39] Speaker 8: M's retaliation. against the witness by bringing baseless.
[4:43] Speaker 1: Charges against him. That is now Rasekhoja himself.
[4:48] Speaker 8: Now the state in exhibit E tried to discredit Sergeant
[4:52] Speaker 8: Rasekhoja by suggesting that he tried to gather information on
[4:58] Speaker 8: the database of the state to forewarn the applicant of a.
[5:00] Speaker 1: Registered case.
[5:03] Speaker 8: I submit this remains baseless speculation in the absence of
[5:08] Speaker 8: extracts from that system to show exactly this is what
[5:12] Speaker 8: was done.
[5:13] Speaker 1: I just want to find out, the abjadit of Rasokoka,
[5:20] Speaker 1: it's meant to do what?
[5:22] Speaker 8: It is meant to provide similar facts that when you
[5:25] Speaker 8: resist Mr. M or when you have difficulty with Mr. M,
[5:29] Speaker 8: he will bring a baseless charge against you as he has.
[5:31] Speaker 1: Done against Raza Khoja of intimidation.
[5:35] Speaker 8: Secondly, he is not a person who is afraid of
[5:40] Speaker 8: becoming romantically involved with women of a variety.
[5:43] Speaker 1: He tends to do that. That's his inclination.
[5:48] Speaker 3: Defense advocate arguing there in the bail application in the
[5:51] Speaker 3: Randberg Magistrates Court, Alfa Ravashwana, EWN reporter, is there for us. Alfa,
[5:56] Speaker 3: good afternoon to you. Thanks very much for your time.
[5:59] Speaker 3: Take us through what's happening in court at the moment.
[6:02] Speaker 10: Good afternoon, Mandy.
[6:04] Speaker 11: The laws of Shadrach, Zibi are currently, actually have just
[6:08] Speaker 11: started with their closing arguments. I mean, We've been in
[6:12] Speaker 11: court for this bail application for about three weeks now,
[6:14] Speaker 11: and it does seem like we are very close to
[6:17] Speaker 11: reaching conclusions. So in the final arguments, the lawyers of
[6:22] Speaker 11: Shadrack are outlining to the court that they believe that
[6:26] Speaker 11: the flight of any person or family outside of South Africa,
[6:31] Speaker 11: so he would not necessarily have anywhere to go outside
[6:34] Speaker 11: of remaining in South Africa if he is granted bail. Currently,
[6:39] Speaker 11: the lawyers are talking about allegations that were made by
[6:42] Speaker 11: the state that Shadrach Sibir has a cabal that could
[6:47] Speaker 11: try to intimidate witnesses and also plot an escape, Shadrach
[6:52] Speaker 11: Sibir's escape. Alpha, are you with us?
[7:00] Speaker 3: Struggling with that line there to Alpha. We had the
[7:03] Speaker 3: same issue yesterday, so we'll try and sort that out.
[7:06] Speaker 3: But Alpha Rameshwan is saying the closing argument currently being
[7:09] Speaker 3: heard at the moment in the Randberg Magistrates Court. I
[7:13] Speaker 3: do want to play a piece of audio for you,
[7:16] Speaker 3: which is the prosecutor, Valile Ndlovu, reading out the affidavit
[7:21] Speaker 3: of the 18-year-old who has accused Sabir of rape.
[7:24] Speaker 12: My family and I were approached by Sergeant Ndlovu. She
[7:27] Speaker 12: asked me how I would feel in terms of my
[7:30] Speaker 12: safety concerns if the accused were to be released out
[7:34] Speaker 12: on bail for I was extremely shocked by this question
[7:38] Speaker 12: because day in and day out, I'm living under constant
[7:42] Speaker 12: fear to the extent of being suicidal. On 22nd September, 2026,
[7:50] Speaker 12: I ventilated my fears via WhatsApp conversations with a close
[7:53] Speaker 12: friend of mine, should the perpetrator be granted bail. I
[7:57] Speaker 12: have evidence to this effect.
[7:59] Speaker 10: Five, I have.
[8:00] Speaker 12: Also told Sergeant Love that I think I would wait
[8:07] Speaker 12: for any future, I wouldn't wait for any future torture
[8:12] Speaker 12: should he be released on bail because something worse than
[8:16] Speaker 12: what he had done could happen. He will therefore find
[8:20] Speaker 12: me dead already as I've already suffered enough.
[8:24] Speaker 3: That's the prosecutor reading from that affidavit earlier. We're back
[8:27] Speaker 3: with Alpha Ramashwana who joins us now again. So Alpha,
[8:30] Speaker 3: we finally have closing argument as you're saying, but tell
[8:33] Speaker 3: us about what happened earlier when this affidavit was read out.
[8:36] Speaker 11: The affidavit that you were listening to in that audio
[8:40] Speaker 11: clip is that of the 18-year-old woman who was allegedly
[8:43] Speaker 11: raped by Shadrach Sevilla. That affidavit was read out in
[8:47] Speaker 11: court earlier today by Prosecutor Velila Makasana. And in that affidavit,
[8:52] Speaker 11: the 18-year-old woman outlines that she has been fearing for
[8:57] Speaker 11: her life ever since the alleged rape incident happened earlier
[9:01] Speaker 11: this year. In fact, she says she's been living with
[9:03] Speaker 11: suicidal thoughts. Ever since she was allegedly sexually assaulted by
[9:08] Speaker 11: the former deputy national police commissioner, she has basically requested
[9:12] Speaker 11: and asked the Randberg Magistrate's Court to deny his release
[9:17] Speaker 11: on bail or reject his bid for bail because they
[9:20] Speaker 11: believe that if he is granted bail, it could pose
[9:23] Speaker 11: a greater risk.
[9:25] Speaker 10: To her life.
[9:26] Speaker 11: As we speak, Mandy, the two victims, the 16-year-old woman,
[9:30] Speaker 11: the 16-year-old girl, rather, who was sexually groomed by Sylvia
[9:34] Speaker 11: and the 18-year-old woman who was raped, allegedly by Sylvia,
[9:38] Speaker 11: are currently in witness protection. But they do say that
[9:41] Speaker 11: given his connections within the South African police service, they
[9:44] Speaker 11: do fear that if he is released on bail, both
[9:47] Speaker 11: them and their family members could possibly.
[9:50] Speaker 10: Be at risk.
[9:51] Speaker 3: Alfa, thank you very much. Alfa Ramashwani, EWN reporter in
[9:54] Speaker 3: court for us in Randberg. So getting to the final
[9:56] Speaker 3: stretches there of that bail application, it has been going
[9:59] Speaker 3: on for quite a while. a few days now, as
[10:01] Speaker 3: Alpha told us. So the defense lawyer now making closing
[10:05] Speaker 3: arguments there, as you heard a bit earlier. We'll keep
[10:07] Speaker 3: an eye on that to see if there are any
[10:09] Speaker 3: developments at all. Shadrach Sabir, the former Deputy National Police Commissioner,
[10:15] Speaker 3: applying for bail.
[10:16] Speaker 4: 702.
[10:18] Speaker 2: 702.
[10:22] Speaker 3: In the Western Cape High Court, the EFF and the
[10:25] Speaker 3: African Legal Professionals Association challenging the Section 89 Impeachment Committee's
[10:30] Speaker 3: decision to rescind the appointment of advocate Tandazani Madonsela as
[10:35] Speaker 3: evidence leader. Yesterday, we heard from the applicants. Today, we're
[10:39] Speaker 3: hearing from the respondents. So the impeachment committee's lawyers responding.
[10:44] Speaker 3: Lindsay Dentlinger, EWN parliamentary reporter, is there for us. Lindsay,
[10:48] Speaker 3: afternoon to you. Take us through the arguments being made today.
[10:51] Speaker 3: Advocate Camille Premier, I think, is arguing.
[10:52] Speaker 11: Thank you.
[10:55] Speaker 13: Good afternoon, Mandy.
[10:55] Speaker 9: Yes, he seems to be nearing the end of almost
[10:58] Speaker 9: three hours of arguments before the court on that recommendation
[11:03] Speaker 9: of advocate Tandazani Madansela. And importantly, pointing out to this
[11:08] Speaker 9: court that, if I could say, it was merely a recommendation.
[11:13] Speaker 9: yet no process to appoint him. This was part of
[11:17] Speaker 9: a process to get to that particular point. And Advocate
[11:22] Speaker 9: Premit really trying to bring home the point that the
[11:26] Speaker 9: actions that Parliament took or this committee took in this
[11:29] Speaker 9: particular matter, first to make that recommendation and then later
[11:33] Speaker 9: to rescind it, it wasn't acting on external pressures from anyone,
[11:37] Speaker 9: least of all the President, who also objected to this
[11:41] Speaker 9: recommendation being made final, saying that what the committee was
[11:46] Speaker 9: doing really was to protect the integrity of this process,
[11:49] Speaker 9: that it had adopted a higher bar than the average
[11:54] Speaker 9: for determining what would be considered a high threshold for integrity,
[12:01] Speaker 9: and that all the information that was put before it,
[12:04] Speaker 9: be that from ANC Secretary-General Fikile Mbulula, what MPs may
[12:09] Speaker 9: or may not have known when they took that initial recommendation,
[12:12] Speaker 9: what Advocate Madan Sela himself declared to the committee, all
[12:16] Speaker 9: these were factors that it has taken into account to
[12:19] Speaker 9: make sure that this process continues. is beyond reproach and
[12:24] Speaker 9: that it could not be argued for certain what MPs
[12:29] Speaker 9: did and did not know about the extent to which
[12:33] Speaker 9: Advocate Bonancella at the time was consulting with the ANC
[12:37] Speaker 9: on matters related to these impeachment proceedings, Mandy.
[12:41] Speaker 3: So, Lindsay, once Advocate Camille Promet is done, what happens then?
[12:45] Speaker 3: Is anybody else due to argue?
[12:48] Speaker 9: Well, we expect the two applicants, the EFF and the
[12:54] Speaker 9: Legal Professionals Association. It gets me so tangled with that one.
[13:02] Speaker 9: That they will be allowed to respond to the allegations
[13:07] Speaker 9: or the arguments that Advocate Premit, as I stepped out
[13:10] Speaker 9: of the courtroom, was saying that they had not followed
[13:13] Speaker 9: through on the arguments that they had raised. flip-flopped between
[13:17] Speaker 9: what they had put in their motion to the court
[13:19] Speaker 9: and their arguments to the court and subsequently their heads
[13:22] Speaker 9: of argument and to respond to that. So we do
[13:26] Speaker 9: expect proceedings to carry on into the afternoon, Mandy.
[13:30] Speaker 3: Lindsay, thank you. Lindsay Dentlinger, EWN parliamentary reporter, speaking to
[13:33] Speaker 3: us there about that application currently being heard in the
[13:36] Speaker 3: Western Cape High Court.
[13:38] Speaker 4: 702. The Midday Report with Mandy Wiener.
[13:42] Speaker 1: Let's walk the talk.
[13:45] Speaker 3: Well, speaking of matters before the High Court, it now
[13:47] Speaker 3: appears that former President Jacob Zuma, who has been in
[13:51] Speaker 3: hospital for the past few days, is now going to
[13:55] Speaker 3: have to actually stand trial. We know that he has
[13:58] Speaker 3: brought various applications to try and prevent this from actually
[14:02] Speaker 3: happening over the years.
[14:03] Speaker 14: But.
[14:05] Speaker 3: And we know that the prosecution has been trial ready
[14:07] Speaker 3: for four years. But now it seems as though former
[14:11] Speaker 3: President Jacob Zuma has dropped all of his appeals. So
[14:16] Speaker 3: let's find out more about this with Karen Moore, News24
[14:19] Speaker 3: legal journalist. Karen, good afternoon to you. Thanks very much
[14:23] Speaker 3: for your time. We know that the high court judge
[14:26] Speaker 3: in Cusinati, Chile, ruled that the trial must proceed in
[14:29] Speaker 3: February 2027, regardless of any appeals that were lodged. That
[14:34] Speaker 3: ruling hasn't been appealed, and it seems that Zuma has
[14:37] Speaker 3: dropped all of his other appeals.
[14:38] Speaker 1: So where are we now?
[14:40] Speaker 13: So what's remarkable, of course, in the wake of Chile's ruling,
[14:43] Speaker 13: which was as a direct result of the NPA's so-called
[14:46] Speaker 13: Stop Stalingrad application, which was unprecedented and extraordinary as implications
[14:52] Speaker 13: beyond itself.
[14:53] Speaker 5: He, in the aftermath, his.
[14:54] Speaker 13: Foundation came out guns blazing, saying it was an erroneous
[14:57] Speaker 13: ruling full of legal and factual mistakes and, and, and,
[15:01] Speaker 13: and there would be an appeal. But that appeal, according
[15:04] Speaker 13: to the NPA, simply.
[15:05] Speaker 5: Has not happened.
[15:06] Speaker 13: And the NPA's position is, The trial is going to
[15:09] Speaker 13: start on, I think it's the 1st of February, 2027.
[15:13] Speaker 13: And we are fully prepared. There's absolutely no legal barriers whatsoever.
[15:18] Speaker 13: Because in addition to the fact that Shelley said that
[15:21] Speaker 13: any interlocutory application, regardless of that, the trial will proceed.
[15:27] Speaker 13: All those applications have now fallen by the wayside.
[15:31] Speaker 3: So does this mean in February of next year, on
[15:33] Speaker 3: the 1st of February, when Jacob Zuma goes to court,
[15:36] Speaker 3: we could actually see evidence being led and witnesses actually
[15:40] Speaker 3: taking the stand?
[15:42] Speaker 13: Well, I know for a fact that the NPA team
[15:44] Speaker 13: that is leading that prosecution is going to Peter Madsberg,
[15:48] Speaker 13: I think, next week to prepare for the trial. And
[15:51] Speaker 13: they have been preparing. They have all their witness evidence,
[15:54] Speaker 13: et cetera, et cetera. I think the big issue really, Mandy,
[15:57] Speaker 13: is the thing that you highlighted right at the beginning
[16:00] Speaker 13: of this interview, which is, of course, Jacob Seymour's health
[16:02] Speaker 13: and the questions over that. And we have seen scenarios
[16:05] Speaker 13: in the past in his trial, which unfortunately I ended
[16:08] Speaker 13: up facing a private prosecution over. was this issue of
[16:12] Speaker 13: his health potentially being leveraged as a mechanism for potential
[16:17] Speaker 13: postponement of that trial. But at this point, all that legal,
[16:21] Speaker 13: you know, that litigation strategy, that so-called Stalingrad strategy, appears
[16:26] Speaker 13: to be well and truly over. And as I said before,
[16:30] Speaker 13: that has implications for that style of litigation in trials
[16:33] Speaker 13: way beyond just the Jacob Zuma prosecution.
[16:36] Speaker 3: We're also expecting, well, I don't know if we're expecting
[16:38] Speaker 3: is the right phrase here, but former President Zuma also
[16:41] Speaker 3: due to or scheduled to testify at the TRC inquiry
[16:46] Speaker 3: next week as well. What do we know about his health?
[16:49] Speaker 3: Because there have been some conflicting statements around this.
[16:52] Speaker 13: You know, there's always been a veil of secrecy over
[16:55] Speaker 13: Jacob Zuma's health. He has routinely used his health, and
[16:58] Speaker 13: you'll remember this was during the state capture inquiry. His
[17:02] Speaker 13: health became an issue where he said he was unable
[17:04] Speaker 13: to keep testifying and never returned. It's recurred in his
[17:08] Speaker 13: corruption case, and it's recurred in some degree in his
[17:12] Speaker 13: rape case, these issues of his health. So there has
[17:14] Speaker 13: always been a veil of secrecy. Some family members appear
[17:19] Speaker 13: to be articulating that the situation is serious, while others
[17:22] Speaker 13: have downplayed that. So we simply do not know. It
[17:26] Speaker 13: will really be, I think, as you rightly point out,
[17:28] Speaker 13: he is due before that TRC inquiry. And I think
[17:32] Speaker 13: it will be at that occasion that we get a
[17:34] Speaker 13: real sense of what his lawyers are prepared to divulge
[17:37] Speaker 13: in terms of his health and its implications for his
[17:40] Speaker 13: participation in that investigation.
[17:43] Speaker 3: Karen, thank you very much. Karen Moore, News24 legal journalist
[17:46] Speaker 3: speaking to us there. Well, what do you think? Do
[17:48] Speaker 3: you think that Jacob Zuma's corruption trial is actually going
[17:51] Speaker 3: to begin on the 1st of February? Do you think
[17:53] Speaker 3: he's going to appear before the TRC inquiry and give
[17:56] Speaker 3: evidence next week? We don't really know what's going on
[17:59] Speaker 3: with his health. There were reports yesterday that he had
[18:01] Speaker 3: been discharged from hospital and then his foundation spokesperson described
[18:07] Speaker 3: that as fake news, but then said, The reporting was fake,
[18:12] Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean that he hasn't been discharged. I
[18:14] Speaker 3: don't actually know what that means. But at this stage,
[18:17] Speaker 3: it looks as though he's been discharged, but that's unconfirmed.
[18:21] Speaker 3: So what do you think about that on the WhatsApp line? Mandy,
[18:24] Speaker 3: Zoom is only dropping his appeals because he's now sick.
[18:26] Speaker 3: Next week, he'll be filing a medically unfit motion to
[18:29] Speaker 3: have the case dropped. Yeah, let's see what happens.
[18:32] Speaker 1: What's up, Mandy?
[18:34] Speaker 10: On 072702-1702.
[18:34] Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Mandy.
[18:40] Speaker 15: What did you say? Jacob Zuma dropped all his appeal.
[18:43] Speaker 15: That means the Guptas have increased him as yet. So
[18:47] Speaker 15: the India trip was in futile.
[18:51] Speaker 1: Hi, Mandy.
[18:52] Speaker 7: You know what's shocking with this Shetraxibia's case? These kids...
[18:57] Speaker 7: that he slept with, or allegedly, upon 2000, mid-2000, 2005, 2006,
[19:03] Speaker 7: around there.
[19:06] Speaker 1: Like, how do you even.
[19:08] Speaker 7: Sleep with such a young child?
[19:09] Speaker 1: You know, I was born mid-80s. I can't even date
[19:12] Speaker 1: someone that young.
[19:14] Speaker 3: Like, no, it's shocking.
[19:15] Speaker 13: It's shocking.
[19:16] Speaker 7: I'm sure these kids are young enough to be his grandkids.
[19:19] Speaker 7: But yeah, it's horrible.
[19:21] Speaker 5: It's bad.
[19:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, and he says it was consensual. So this is
[19:25] Speaker 3: a conversation we've had before, speaking of Jacob Zuma. On
[19:29] Speaker 3: the WhatsApp line, Jacob Zuma is not sick. He's just
[19:31] Speaker 3: playing his games. We know him. Thank you very much
[19:33] Speaker 3: for those messages coming through. Let's get an update now
[19:36] Speaker 3: on the AKA and Tibbs murder trial currently underway. A
[19:39] Speaker 3: number of witnesses having given evidence there. Tbisil Goba is
[19:43] Speaker 3: there for us. Tbisil, good afternoon to you. Tell us
[19:45] Speaker 3: who's testifying today.
[19:48] Speaker 10: Good afternoon, Mandy. Since the trial started, started last week
[19:51] Speaker 10: on the 5th of October, it's also 11 witnesses that
[19:54] Speaker 10: have testified so far. I think that shows, obviously, some
[19:57] Speaker 10: great progress in case, you know, people were wondering if
[20:00] Speaker 10: this was going to be another sense of may you
[20:03] Speaker 10: at trial. So the people who have been testifying so far, Mandy,
[20:08] Speaker 10: these are people who were with Mr. Kenan, a.k.a. Forbes
[20:13] Speaker 10: and Devilotibs Motswane on the day that they were killed.
[20:16] Speaker 10: You remember, Mandy, that there are seven men who are
[20:19] Speaker 10: currently charged with the murders of a.k.a. and Tibbs. However,
[20:23] Speaker 10: it's important to also note that these men are also
[20:26] Speaker 10: charged each with five counts of attempted murder because when
[20:30] Speaker 10: they shot Tibbs, these two gentlemen there was also five
[20:33] Speaker 10: other people who were close in the vicinity of mr
[20:38] Speaker 10: aka and tibbs so the people who've been testifying has
[20:41] Speaker 10: been his road manager his dj his um his photographer
[20:47] Speaker 10: and those other um four other people who were within
[20:50] Speaker 10: that vicinity testifying of their experiences i will tell you
[20:54] Speaker 10: man it has been graphic um they have been asked
[20:57] Speaker 10: you know to describe what happened on that day. And,
[21:02] Speaker 10: you know, it has been graphic. It has been emotional.
[21:04] Speaker 10: They have been describing having to see their friends, you know,
[21:09] Speaker 10: bleeding and not being able to help, you know, for AKA,
[21:14] Speaker 10: he died on the spot. But, you know, he was
[21:17] Speaker 10: bleeding profusely. You understand there was also a lot of
[21:20] Speaker 10: hurts when it came to Mr. Tebelotibs Motswane because he
[21:25] Speaker 10: was shot in the abdomen area. So he was alive
[21:29] Speaker 10: at least for until five or ten minutes until the
[21:32] Speaker 10: paramedics came. So, you know, the witnesses have been testifying
[21:38] Speaker 10: around that matter, saying that, you know, it was very
[21:41] Speaker 10: hurtful to see their friends bleeding and them not being
[21:45] Speaker 10: able to do anything. But let's just take a listen
[21:48] Speaker 10: to some of the testimony. This is Mr. Siabonga. He's
[21:53] Speaker 10: the road manager to Mr.
[21:56] Speaker 13: A.K.A.
[21:57] Speaker 10: Forbes. Let's just take a listen.
[21:58] Speaker 11: Yeah, then when I realized.
[22:00] Speaker 12: That he got shot.
[22:16] Speaker 10: That's when I started looking around to find out where A.K.A.
[22:19] Speaker 3: Was, because at that moment I thought he also ran
[22:23] Speaker 3: inside with us.
[22:24] Speaker 10: But unfortunately, when I looked around, he wasn't there.
[22:27] Speaker 3: Our thanks to Tibiso Goba, EWN reporter, giving us an
[22:32] Speaker 3: update there on the A.K.A. and Tib's murder trial. What's up, Mandy?
[22:35] Speaker 4: On 072-702-1702.
[22:35] Speaker 14: Hi, Mandy.
[22:36] Speaker 3: I'm picking up hospice vibes with.
[22:46] Speaker 10: Zuma.
[22:47] Speaker 7: I think he has reached the stage where he's been
[22:51] Speaker 7: released out of medical, professional care, and yeah, that's what
[22:56] Speaker 7: I'm getting.
[22:57] Speaker 15: At last, Zuma will face his music and lie in
[23:00] Speaker 15: his bed, his mate.
[23:02] Speaker 6: This country's bleeding because of his assault on it.
[23:06] Speaker 3: I'm Sveto in Guatemala.
[23:08] Speaker 16: Good day, Wendy.
[23:11] Speaker 3: Thank you very much for those WhatsApp voice notes coming through,
[23:13] Speaker 3: responding there to that conversation I had with Karen Morn
[23:16] Speaker 3: about Jacob Zuma and still not a great deal of
[23:18] Speaker 3: clarity on his health. We know it's always been a
[23:21] Speaker 3: great mystery, shrouded in mystery. On the WhatsApp line, lots
[23:24] Speaker 3: of messages about Jacob Zuma. And then Carol says, Mandy,
[23:27] Speaker 3: Emma Sadler didn't say don't give children cell phones. She
[23:30] Speaker 3: said they shouldn't have phones with WhatsApp on them. Parents
[23:32] Speaker 3: will make all sorts of excuses and say kids must
[23:35] Speaker 3: be able to get a hold of parents and vice versa.
[23:37] Speaker 3: say they need phones. She said, give them a simple
[23:40] Speaker 3: phone that can't have WhatsApp because WhatsApp is social media. Yeah, well,
[23:44] Speaker 3: let's get clarity on that now. And a pleasure to
[23:46] Speaker 3: welcome Emma Sadler, the founder of the Digital Law Company
[23:50] Speaker 3: to the show today. Emma, good afternoon to you. Thanks
[23:52] Speaker 3: so much for joining us. A lot of conversation taking
[23:56] Speaker 3: place around a video that you shared on your social
[23:59] Speaker 3: media about a nine-year-old girl in an email that you received.
[24:03] Speaker 3: For people that haven't seen it, just take us through
[24:05] Speaker 3: what you were told.
[24:10] Speaker 12: Can you hear me, Mandy?
[24:10] Speaker 9: There we go.
[24:11] Speaker 3: Now I can hear you.
[24:12] Speaker 17: Oh, I'm so sorry about that. Yes, I mean, I'm
[24:14] Speaker 17: so happy that you're bringing some attention to this because
[24:17] Speaker 17: this is an issue that is coming into my inbox
[24:20] Speaker 17: almost on a daily basis. These very, very young children
[24:23] Speaker 17: being exposed to content that they simply should never, ever see.
[24:28] Speaker 17: And I think it's largely because parents are so quick
[24:31] Speaker 17: to put these very, very sophisticated smartphones in the hands
[24:35] Speaker 17: of children who are very young.
[24:37] Speaker 3: So this particular incident that you speak about, it involves
[24:41] Speaker 3: a group of nine-year-old girls in pornography. Tell us about
[24:44] Speaker 3: what happened.
[24:44] Speaker 17: So I got a message, Mandy, and as I say,
[24:47] Speaker 17: you know, I do a lot of first response work
[24:49] Speaker 17: when it comes to issues around online harms being committed
[24:53] Speaker 17: against children. And I got this message from a mom
[24:56] Speaker 17: saying that her daughter, who's nine years old, goes to
[24:59] Speaker 17: a very good school in Johannesburg. She was added to
[25:02] Speaker 17: a WhatsApp group with her friends. The one nine-year-old girl
[25:06] Speaker 17: created a WhatsApp video call and shared pornography on the screen.
[25:11] Speaker 17: And all of these little nine-year-olds were exposed to this content.
[25:14] Speaker 17: And the parent of the child who showed the content
[25:19] Speaker 17: was informed. And the reaction of the parent was to
[25:22] Speaker 17: smack the child. And then to take her phone away.
[25:25] Speaker 17: And I just thought it was the most outrageous story
[25:29] Speaker 17: for a number of reasons. is so extreme. It's often
[25:45] Speaker 17: so violent. It's often so misogynistic. And the kids are
[25:49] Speaker 17: being exposed to this very extreme content from a very
[25:51] Speaker 17: young age. So parents are very quick to put these
[25:54] Speaker 17: devices in the hands of their children. I always say
[25:56] Speaker 17: the internet doesn't have a shallow end. And once they're online,
[26:00] Speaker 17: they're online. They're going to come across predators. They're going
[26:03] Speaker 17: to come across very, very inappropriate content. And we're seeing
[26:07] Speaker 17: the behaviors of these kids when they become tweens and
[26:10] Speaker 17: then teens, really being impacted by this very early exposure.
[26:16] Speaker 17: So I just thought it was an outrageous story that
[26:18] Speaker 17: you as the parent are the ones that are putting
[26:21] Speaker 17: this very, very powerful content into the hands of the
[26:24] Speaker 17: children devices. And then when they see the content, which
[26:27] Speaker 17: they really have no option but to see because it's
[26:29] Speaker 17: everywhere on the Internet, then the child's the one that's
[26:32] Speaker 17: in trouble.
[26:33] Speaker 3: So I just want to get clarity on what you're
[26:36] Speaker 3: saying in light of that message I received. So your advice,
[26:40] Speaker 3: is it to give children, they can have phones, but
[26:44] Speaker 3: not phones that have access to social media and WhatsApp
[26:47] Speaker 3: is defined as social media. Because many parents will say, well,
[26:51] Speaker 3: I need to get a hold of my kid.
[26:53] Speaker 17: Yeah, and I think we have to be practical about it.
[26:54] Speaker 17: You know, a lot of parents rely on public transport
[26:57] Speaker 17: for their children. They send their kids out into this
[27:00] Speaker 17: very scary, dangerous world which we live in, and they
[27:03] Speaker 17: feel like a phone makes them safer. And I think
[27:06] Speaker 17: that what happens is that, you know, you think you're
[27:08] Speaker 17: giving your child access to the world, but you're giving
[27:10] Speaker 17: the world access to your child when you give them
[27:12] Speaker 17: a smartphone. So my very, very strong advice is that
[27:15] Speaker 17: smartphones should be banned for children in primary school, that
[27:19] Speaker 17: if you need to get your child a phone, you
[27:20] Speaker 17: can get them, you know, a good old Nokia 3210,
[27:22] Speaker 17: let them play Snake if they're bored waiting for you
[27:24] Speaker 17: to collect them from school. They can phone you to
[27:26] Speaker 17: say that school has been canceled or that extra mural
[27:30] Speaker 17: has been canceled, that kind of thing. But it really is.
[27:33] Speaker 17: It's just so dangerous to give them any device which
[27:37] Speaker 17: breaks the Internet barrier, you know, anything that allows them
[27:41] Speaker 17: to access content on the Internet. And I think it's very,
[27:44] Speaker 17: very dangerous for parents to think of WhatsApp as a
[27:47] Speaker 17: safer app. You know, like I think that we've got
[27:51] Speaker 17: to understand that WhatsApp is social media. The kids from
[27:54] Speaker 17: a very young age, I see kids as young as
[27:56] Speaker 17: grade three, grade four, creating these WhatsApp groups. They call
[27:58] Speaker 17: them add everyone groups. They're at capacity at all times.
[28:02] Speaker 17: So they're on WhatsApp groups with adults, with people they
[28:03] Speaker 17: don't know. You can have 1,024 people on a WhatsApp group.
[28:08] Speaker 17: I've seen children starting relationships with the Meta AI chatbot,
[28:11] Speaker 17: which is available on WhatsApp from 8, 9, 10 years old.
[28:16] Speaker 17: The WhatsApp channels we know is just an absolute den
[28:20] Speaker 17: of horrific content, completely unregulated. So my first message is,
[28:27] Speaker 17: WhatsApp is social media. Do not treat it differently to
[28:30] Speaker 17: how you would treat Snapchat or TikTok or Instagram. It's
[28:34] Speaker 17: certainly not safer. And the other thing is just is
[28:39] Speaker 17: really starting to become aware about what your child is
[28:42] Speaker 17: up to. I think there's so much ignorance. And I
[28:44] Speaker 17: do have to acknowledge that I do appreciate that WhatsApp
[28:47] Speaker 17: bundles are cheap. South Africans are addicted to WhatsApp. It's
[28:51] Speaker 17: a very cheap, efficient way of communicating. But be very,
[28:55] Speaker 17: very careful of WhatsApp. Do not think it's just like
[28:58] Speaker 17: being able to send SMSs.
[29:00] Speaker 3: Emma, thank you so much. Emma Sadlier, founder of the
[29:02] Speaker 3: Digital Law Company. Always puts a little bit of a
[29:05] Speaker 3: fear of God into me as a parent listening to that.
[29:08] Speaker 3: But I think it's an important warning to heed.
[29:09] Speaker 1: 702. The Midday Report with Mandy Weiner. Let's walk the talk.
[29:16] Speaker 3: Well, we know a lot of people are struggling following
[29:19] Speaker 3: the fuel price increase, putting enormous pressure on household budgets.
[29:23] Speaker 3: We had a massive increase last week. Government also in
[29:28] Speaker 3: April this year introduced a temporary three rand a litre
[29:31] Speaker 3: reduction in the general fuel levy following those global oil
[29:35] Speaker 3: prices surging. That relief was extended into June, but there
[29:40] Speaker 3: it was phased out. So let's speak about how this
[29:43] Speaker 3: is impacting on us with Professor Frederick Kirsten, who is
[29:46] Speaker 3: an associate professor at the School of Economics at the
[29:50] Speaker 3: University of Johannesburg. Prof, good afternoon to you. Thanks very
[29:54] Speaker 3: much for your time. Cyril's economy, it's a difficult place
[29:59] Speaker 3: to be for us at the moment.
[30:01] Speaker 10: Yes, thank you very much.
[30:02] Speaker 18: Thank you for having me on the show. Yes, it's
[30:05] Speaker 18: quite a difficult place. I think, as you rightly said,
[30:08] Speaker 18: the fact that the government has not yet announced anything
[30:11] Speaker 18: regarding a fuel level decrease is technically saying that at
[30:15] Speaker 18: the moment the fuel is going to be solely felt
[30:18] Speaker 18: on the consumers. And that is creating a lot of
[30:22] Speaker 18: worry in the economy at the moment, especially for where
[30:25] Speaker 18: it's going because of the uncertainty with how long the
[30:28] Speaker 18: Middle East conflict can still last.
[30:31] Speaker 3: I have seen some commentary saying that it is disingenuous
[30:35] Speaker 3: to only blame the Middle East conflict on the price
[30:38] Speaker 3: of oil for the price of our petrol price. But
[30:40] Speaker 3: that's the economics of it, right?
[30:43] Speaker 18: Yes, I think in the larger scheme of things, a
[30:46] Speaker 18: lot of countries probably have more reserves. So it's easier
[30:51] Speaker 18: for them to maybe absorb the shock of the increase.
[30:54] Speaker 18: But I think South Africa at the moment, we don't
[30:56] Speaker 18: have that type of reserve. So we are very much...
[31:00] Speaker 18: dependent on what is happening in the outside world in
[31:02] Speaker 18: terms of these shocks, even the Russia-Ukraine conflict. So I
[31:06] Speaker 18: think all of these just combined is creating that instability
[31:09] Speaker 18: in the oil price with the demand and supply. And
[31:13] Speaker 18: that's creating a lot of worries, especially in the South
[31:16] Speaker 18: African sense, that we don't have control over what's happening outside,
[31:20] Speaker 18: but it's still influencing us in terms of our pockets.
[31:23] Speaker 3: We've seen trade unions warning that people are literally having
[31:27] Speaker 3: to choose between government food and going out to find employment.
[31:32] Speaker 3: So we're likely to see a decline in the number
[31:34] Speaker 3: of job seekers out there. What does that mean then
[31:38] Speaker 3: for our labor force?
[31:41] Speaker 18: I think the most important thing there is the fact
[31:42] Speaker 18: that with the petrol price increases and so on, budgets
[31:47] Speaker 18: have to be cut and also budgets have to be
[31:50] Speaker 18: well allocated where the necessities like food and so on,
[31:53] Speaker 18: firstly to be spent on but then also transportation costs
[31:56] Speaker 18: is going to go up. Taxi prices might also go
[31:58] Speaker 18: up in the future, near future. And we haven't even
[32:01] Speaker 18: talked about probably the effect this will have on our
[32:05] Speaker 18: festive season spending in terms of the bus ticket, flight tickets,
[32:09] Speaker 18: all of that will go up since we're expecting that
[32:12] Speaker 18: is also going to be probably a November hike in
[32:15] Speaker 18: the petrol prices. So I think it's going to be
[32:18] Speaker 18: a delayed impact even on the on the spending over
[32:21] Speaker 18: the festive seasons where households will really have to allocate
[32:24] Speaker 18: where do they spend money, where do they travel to,
[32:27] Speaker 18: and even, like you said, traveling for jobs, what's the
[32:30] Speaker 18: best place to do job hunting and reduce the traveling amount.
[32:35] Speaker 3: And then lastly, Prof, what is the way out of this?
[32:38] Speaker 3: Is it entirely dependent on what happens in the Middle
[32:40] Speaker 3: East or is there anything government can do?
[32:43] Speaker 18: At the moment, the government is trying to reduce the– well,
[32:46] Speaker 18: increasing the repo rate is one of the ways the
[32:48] Speaker 18: Reserve Bank is trying to fight the inflation. But again,
[32:51] Speaker 18: that is not really helping consumers because that's also increasing
[32:54] Speaker 18: the debt repayment they have to make. But the biggest
[32:56] Speaker 18: thing the government at the moment can do is try
[32:58] Speaker 18: to find some money and try to absorb the shock
[33:00] Speaker 18: with the fuel-level decreases again. Whether they can do that
[33:04] Speaker 18: because they're already in a– trying for this physical consolidation,
[33:07] Speaker 18: I don't think they will– But that's the best place
[33:11] Speaker 18: they can do is to try and absorb the shock.
[33:13] Speaker 18: But the length of the shock is the issue, not
[33:16] Speaker 18: knowing how long the shock will last and how many
[33:20] Speaker 18: more hikes we're expecting in terms of fuel price and
[33:22] Speaker 18: oil price increases.
[33:24] Speaker 3: Prof, thank you so much. Professor Frederick Kirsten is Associate
[33:27] Speaker 3: Professor at the School of Economics at the University of Johannesburg,
[33:30] Speaker 3: speaking to us there about Cyril's economy.
[33:33] Speaker 1: 702.
[33:34] Speaker 10: 702.
[33:36] Speaker 4: There have been concerns raised about the compensation fund, particularly
[33:44] Speaker 4: the Gauteng branch, which was allegedly battling massive backlogs to
[33:49] Speaker 4: approve medical service providers.
[33:52] Speaker 3: Reports suggesting in the Citizen newspaper that doctors treating injured
[33:59] Speaker 3: workers could be left unable to submit claims for payments.
[34:03] Speaker 3: Let's get clarity on on this and speak to Nobantu Morrison,
[34:07] Speaker 3: who's the Acting Chief Director for Medical Benefits at the
[34:10] Speaker 3: Compensation Fund. Nobantu, good afternoon to you. Thank you so
[34:13] Speaker 3: much for your time today. Firstly, is there a backlog
[34:18] Speaker 3: at the Compensation Fund when it comes to submissions from
[34:22] Speaker 3: medical service providers?
[34:24] Speaker 5: Hi, Mandy. Thank you for having me on. The backlog,
[34:29] Speaker 5: we need to make a distinction here. When people need...
[34:33] Speaker 5: Our stakeholders need to use our online system. They have
[34:37] Speaker 5: to have a profile created. So that just makes them
[34:42] Speaker 5: be able to submit claims, submit medical invoices and medical
[34:46] Speaker 5: reports for us to process. There have been issues around
[34:50] Speaker 5: that particular administrative process in applying for new stakeholders. But
[34:56] Speaker 5: currently we have 4,800 MSPs that are active with us
[35:00] Speaker 5: and it's not affecting their ability to submit instances because
[35:04] Speaker 5: as a contingency, we allow manual submissions should our assistance
[35:10] Speaker 5: present any issues for our stakeholders.
[35:14] Speaker 3: According to this report, only 109 Gauteng doctor profiles were
[35:18] Speaker 3: approved over six months, which is, as I understand it,
[35:22] Speaker 3: inadequate given the number of providers and the growing volume
[35:25] Speaker 3: of outstanding claims. Is this correct?
[35:28] Speaker 5: Mandy, again, I'm going to ask that you make a distinction.
[35:31] Speaker 5: Asking to.
[35:33] Speaker 5: Have access to our systems is one process. That 109
[35:38] Speaker 5: is reference to a completely different process that is not
[35:42] Speaker 5: linked to this.
[35:43] Speaker 3: So what is that process?
[35:45] Speaker 5: That process is banking details. So it has nothing to
[35:48] Speaker 5: do with accepting users who want to use our system.
[35:53] Speaker 5: That number is about 450 that have been affected by
[35:57] Speaker 5: this problem. And that 450 is not just housing. It's
[36:01] Speaker 5: countrywide because our system is used in all nine provinces.
[36:05] Speaker 5: And it's made up of medical service providers and employers.
[36:08] Speaker 5: So that 109 has nothing to do with the problem.
[36:11] Speaker 3: So, okay, let's draw the distinction. And then if you
[36:15] Speaker 3: look at the problem, what are you doing to resolve it?
[36:18] Speaker 5: Well, ICT has resolved the problem. The problem started in August.
[36:22] Speaker 5: On the 4th of August, it was resolved in September.
[36:26] Speaker 5: Then it was working for about four days and another
[36:28] Speaker 5: issue came up. It has now been resolved. And by
[36:33] Speaker 5: the end of October, we would have been able to
[36:36] Speaker 5: grant access to these 450 users that were affected by it.
[36:41] Speaker 3: Do you still have a bottleneck, though, that you need
[36:43] Speaker 3: to work through?
[36:45] Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the 450. Okay.
[36:47] Speaker 3: So I'm trying to stay with you here to make
[36:49] Speaker 3: sure I understand this. So are you hoping that you'll
[36:53] Speaker 3: be able to clear that bottleneck then, that people will
[36:57] Speaker 3: be able to get payouts?
[37:01] Speaker 5: No, no. This is to use our system. The payouts
[37:04] Speaker 5: have been happening. For that matter, Gauteng has finalized 92%
[37:07] Speaker 5: of the invoices that they've received this financial year. to
[37:12] Speaker 5: the value of $ 740 million. So it has not affected
[37:15] Speaker 5: the payouts. It's just affected the ability to submit a claim.
[37:20] Speaker 5: But we have other ways that they can submit. So
[37:22] Speaker 5: there's not been a service delivery disruption because.
[37:26] Speaker 11: Of this issue.
[37:27] Speaker 3: Okay, and are you satisfied with the way that you're
[37:30] Speaker 3: handling the system in itself and that these issues don't
[37:34] Speaker 3: arise again?
[37:35] Speaker 5: With systems, issues do arise. But like I say, this
[37:40] Speaker 5: $ 450 million, is affecting the entire country. It has nothing
[37:44] Speaker 5: to do with just being housing. So it is a
[37:48] Speaker 5: small number. And again, it's made up of new doctors.
[37:51] Speaker 5: So these are doctors who are signing up to treat
[37:54] Speaker 5: patients under the Compensation of Occupational and Injury Diseases Act.
[37:58] Speaker 5: So these are doctors who are coming in for the
[38:00] Speaker 5: first time into the system. The existing doctors have not
[38:03] Speaker 5: been affected by this problem.
[38:05] Speaker 3: Nobantu, thank you very much for explaining all of that.
[38:07] Speaker 3: Nobantu Morrison, Acting Chief Director, for medical benefits at the
[38:11] Speaker 3: compensation fund. I think I understand that. So as she says,
[38:15] Speaker 3: the payments aren't being affected. It's just creating a new application,
[38:20] Speaker 3: and that would be new doctors. But there's still a
[38:22] Speaker 3: problem with the system, and systems have problems.
[38:24] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[38:25] Speaker 7: Okay.
[38:26] Speaker 3: What you said there where you think you're giving your child.
[38:28] Speaker 1: Access to the world, but you're actually giving the world
[38:31] Speaker 1: access to your child. Come on, preach it, sister. That
[38:34] Speaker 1: was a hard hitting.
[38:36] Speaker 3: Come on, thank you, Mandy, for doing this. What is
[38:38] Speaker 3: wrong with a Nokia 3310?
[38:40] Speaker 18: Nothing.
[38:42] Speaker 4: What's up, Mandy?
[38:46] Speaker 3: On 072-702-1702.
[38:47] Speaker 6: Hey, Mandy. From what I've heard or read, a lot
[38:52] Speaker 6: of the police people who have been implicated because of
[38:55] Speaker 6: Madalanga are resigning. Sonona has resigned. IDAX, Gorgeous has resigned.
[39:03] Speaker 6: Sibiria has resigned. I think I find very unfair that
[39:06] Speaker 6: when they resign, then there's no more consequences. These guys
[39:08] Speaker 6: have committed a lot of crimes in the back room,
[39:12] Speaker 6: but there's no consequences. Please, could you guys interview somebody
[39:15] Speaker 6: who can let us know how this is even allowed
[39:17] Speaker 6: legally for people to resign and then not face consequences
[39:21] Speaker 6: for crimes that they have committed when they were in
[39:23] Speaker 6: their offices?
[39:25] Speaker 14: Hi, Mandy.
[39:25] Speaker 2: Mandy, on the case of Sabia, the 18-year-old is not
[39:30] Speaker 2: a child. Why is she not at court talking for herself?
[39:36] Speaker 2: I don't believe this story. I think this case, someone
[39:39] Speaker 2: is trying to cook it.
[39:41] Speaker 10: Hi, Mandy.
[39:42] Speaker 14: Just a message to all men out there, including myself, 58, 59,
[39:45] Speaker 14: 60-year-old men. 16-year-old girls or 18-year-old women don't want you.
[39:55] Speaker 14: They don't want to be with you, okay? If they
[39:58] Speaker 14: are with you, it's because they are afraid.
[39:59] Speaker 12: That's all.
[40:01] Speaker 10: Thanks, Joe.
[40:02] Speaker 11: Thanks, Joe.
[40:02] Speaker 3: Appreciate that message, some sage insight there. So on that
[40:07] Speaker 3: first issue on the accountability, so remember that if you're
[40:12] Speaker 3: facing a disciplinary and you then resign, that then falls
[40:16] Speaker 3: away and becomes moot. However, if you've done something wrong,
[40:20] Speaker 3: you could still face a criminal charge. So that is
[40:23] Speaker 3: an entirely different process. So even if Sabir has resigned,
[40:28] Speaker 3: as an example, and he's done something that is problematic
[40:31] Speaker 3: in his job, he'll face a criminal charge for that.
[40:35] Speaker 3: So there will still be accountability technically for that. So
[40:39] Speaker 3: I think that that makes sense there. I hope that
[40:43] Speaker 3: it does. Thanks very much for all of those WhatsApp
[40:45] Speaker 3: voice notes.
[40:45] Speaker 16: 7.02, the Midday Report, Monday to Friday, 12 to 1 p.m.
[40:51] Speaker 3: Well, some are very much arriving in South Africa. The
[40:54] Speaker 3: Weather Service warning of storms, a heat wave, and fire
[40:57] Speaker 3: danger as well. So let's find out what's happening with
[41:00] Speaker 3: Lekhlochonolo Tobele, forecaster at the SA Weather Service. Lekhlochonolo, good
[41:04] Speaker 3: afternoon to you. Thanks very much for your time. So
[41:08] Speaker 3: tell us about the warnings that have been issued.
[41:11] Speaker 16: I'm India, and thanks for the invitation. Severe thunderstorms. are
[41:15] Speaker 16: definitely expected over the northwest into the northern parts of
[41:18] Speaker 16: the Northern Cape, although we have covered the northwestern parts
[41:21] Speaker 16: of the three states just around Belkom. But there is
[41:24] Speaker 16: still a wind for severe thunderstorms for the central and
[41:27] Speaker 16: the southern parts of KwaZulu-Natal. But if you'll be over
[41:30] Speaker 16: the southern parts of the Northern Cape into the northeastern
[41:33] Speaker 16: parts of the Western Cape, just expect some damaging winds.
[41:36] Speaker 16: So do remember that in severe thunderstorms, we're expecting heavy
[41:40] Speaker 16: downpours that may lead to localized flooding, a possibility of
[41:43] Speaker 16: damaging winds as well as a possibility of hail and
[41:45] Speaker 16: excessive lightning into the afternoon. So please, please take caution.
[41:49] Speaker 16: And this is expected for today, but for tomorrow, the
[41:52] Speaker 16: storms are expected to move into the western parts of Limpopo.
[41:56] Speaker 16: But there is still a 30 to 60 percent chance
[41:58] Speaker 16: of thunderstorms still expected for the central interior of the country.
[42:02] Speaker 16: This will cover the northwest, the Free State, into KwaZulu-Natal
[42:06] Speaker 16: and the Eastern Cape.
[42:08] Speaker 3: Okay, then tell us about hot temperatures, heat waves across
[42:11] Speaker 3: parts of the country.
[42:13] Speaker 10: Definitely.
[42:13] Speaker 16: And the heat wave is expected across the northwestern part
[42:17] Speaker 16: of KwaZulu-Natal. And this is expected to last up until
[42:21] Speaker 16: at least tomorrow. And we're still monitoring the situation. Temperatures
[42:25] Speaker 16: are expected to be warm, especially for the central and
[42:28] Speaker 16: the eastern part of the country, as opposed to what
[42:30] Speaker 16: we had in September. And we're expecting that warm-up to
[42:36] Speaker 16: be across most parts of the country, especially the central
[42:38] Speaker 16: and the eastern parts. And following the warning of the
[42:41] Speaker 16: El Nino conditions that are expected, sub-seasonal forecast shows the
[42:45] Speaker 16: temperatures are expected to warm up in the next coming weeks.
[42:48] Speaker 16: So most of the rain is expected across most parts
[42:51] Speaker 16: of the Eastern Cape. That's where it looked like it
[42:54] Speaker 16: would be above normal for the remainder of the month
[42:57] Speaker 16: into the central parts. But the sub-seasonal forecast will suggest
[43:00] Speaker 16: that we're expecting warmer temperatures. And if you are in Gauteng,
[43:04] Speaker 16: you will attest to the warmth that is outside.
[43:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. And of course, concerns in some areas about
[43:10] Speaker 3: potential fire hazards as well.
[43:12] Speaker 16: I'm glad you touched on the fault fires because we're
[43:15] Speaker 16: expecting the western interior to experience that due to highly
[43:20] Speaker 16: conducive conditions that may lead to salt fires, especially if
[43:24] Speaker 16: we have damaging winds like the weather warning that we
[43:26] Speaker 16: sent out for the southern part of the Northern Cape.
[43:29] Speaker 16: That obviously plays a part in increasing the chances of
[43:33] Speaker 16: salt fires over the area. So please take caution. And
[43:36] Speaker 16: if you see any unnecessary fires, report them to your
[43:39] Speaker 16: necessary authorities.
[43:41] Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Forecaster at the SA Weather Service.
[43:45] Speaker 3: So that's where we leave it today.

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