# Shadrack Sibiya continues

An episode of [The Midday Report with Mandy Wiener](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1074292047), 15 Oct 2026, 3:59.

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Mandy Wiener speaks to EWN Reporter, Alpha Ramushwana about attorneys for former top cop Shadrack Sibiya claiming that the complainants in his sexual offenses case have been living in constant fear and that there is nothing out of the ordinary about them. The Midday Report with Mandy Wiener is 702 and CapeTalk’s flagship news show, your hour of essential news radio. The show is podcasted every weekday, allowing you to catch up with a 60-minute weekday wrap of the day's main news. It's packed with fast-paced interviews with the day’s newsmakers, as well as those who can make sense of the news and explain what's happening in your world. All the interviews are podcasted for you to catch up and listen to. Thank you for listening to this podcast of The Midday Report Listen live on weekdays between 12:00 and 13:00 (SA Time) to The Midday Report broadcast on 702 https://buff.ly/gk3y0Kj and on CapeTalk https://buff.ly/NnFM3Nk For more from The Midday Report go to https://buff.ly/BTGmL9H and find all the catch-up podcasts here https://buff.ly/LcbDdFI Subscribe to the 702 and CapeTalk daily and weekly newsletters https://buff.ly/v5mfetc Follow us on social media: 702 on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TalkRadio702 702 on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@talkradio702 702 on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/talkradio702/ 702 on X: https://x.com/Radio702 702 on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@radio702 CapeTalk on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CapeTalk CapeTalk on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@capetalk CapeTalk on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ CapeTalk on X: https://x.com/CapeTalk CapeTalk on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CapeTalk567 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Also in court today in the Randberg Magistrates Court, Shadrach Sabir,
[0:02] Speaker 1: the former Deputy National Police Commissioner's former, his bail application
[0:08] Speaker 1: finally coming to an end. It's now been postponed for judgment,
[0:12] Speaker 1: and it's been quite a lengthy bail application, quite a
[0:15] Speaker 1: lot of detail coming out. Alpha Ramashwana, EWN reporter, has
[0:19] Speaker 1: been in court for us. He joins us now in
[0:21] Speaker 1: our Joburg studio. Alpha, thank you very much for coming in.
[0:25] Speaker 1: So you've been covering this whole thing. How do you
[0:28] Speaker 1: now reflect on what the evidence is that has emerged?
[0:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, good afternoon, Mandy. I think this was one of
[0:34] Speaker 2: the longest bail applications that I've personally covered. And the
[0:39] Speaker 2: state also had a similar view because the prosecutor made
[0:42] Speaker 2: a remark today to say that they feel like they
[0:44] Speaker 2: are halfway through the trial already, given the amount of
[0:47] Speaker 2: evidence that was presented during this bail application. I mean,
[0:50] Speaker 2: Almost every single day over the past three weeks, we
[0:53] Speaker 2: had a different voice note, a different sound clip that
[0:55] Speaker 2: was played in court. Most of the clips and the
[0:58] Speaker 2: evidence that was brought in by the state was to
[1:01] Speaker 2: try and convince the court that should Shadrach Sibya be
[1:04] Speaker 2: granted bail, he could possibly try to interfere with this
[1:07] Speaker 2: case or intimidate witnesses. I mean, they even played a clip,
[1:11] Speaker 2: a recorded phone call, where one of his friends, Azuyangwe Maumera,
[1:14] Speaker 2: is heard looking for the identity of the 18-year-old woman
[1:18] Speaker 2: who was allegedly raped by Sibiya to sit down and
[1:21] Speaker 2: talk with her. Another clip that was presented last week
[1:24] Speaker 2: was that of Shadrach Sibiya threatening Mr. M, who is
[1:28] Speaker 2: the father of the 16-year-old that he's accused of sexually grooming.
[1:31] Speaker 2: So there was a lot of evidence where Sibiya is
[1:34] Speaker 2: heard allegedly threatening to wipe out the entire family of
[1:38] Speaker 2: the 16-year-old that he's accused of sexually grooming, his friends
[1:41] Speaker 2: as well, whom the state refers to as a cabal,
[1:44] Speaker 2: threatening to... find the identities of some of the victims
[1:48] Speaker 2: and the witnesses. So really a lot of evidence that
[1:51] Speaker 2: was presented for a bail application.
[1:54] Speaker 1: So today we had the last bits being presented by
[1:58] Speaker 1: the prosecutor in the matter as well. What else has
[2:00] Speaker 1: come out that's new?
[2:02] Speaker 2: While the prosecutor today was giving their own views of
[2:05] Speaker 2: why they are objecting to Shadrach Sibia's bail application, they
[2:10] Speaker 2: believe that if Sibia is to be granted bail, he
[2:13] Speaker 2: could possibly interfere with the case and intimidate witnesses. Going
[2:17] Speaker 2: back to the sound clips and voice notes that were
[2:20] Speaker 2: presented to the court over the past three weeks, in fact,
[2:23] Speaker 2: the prosecutor says, should Sibia be granted bail, the lives
[2:27] Speaker 2: of the victims could possibly be in jeopardy. The 18-year-old
[2:31] Speaker 2: and the 16-year-old are in witness protection as we speak.
[2:33] Speaker 2: We've heard them through affidavits submitted to the court saying
[2:36] Speaker 2: that they are living with suicidal thoughts and they fear
[2:40] Speaker 2: for their lives after the incidents. Let's take a listen
[2:42] Speaker 2: to what Prosecutor Velile Makasana had to say about Chadwick
[2:46] Speaker 2: Xavier's bail application today.
[2:48] Speaker 3: His conduct, and this is what we're busy with, Your
[2:51] Speaker 3: Sheep here, his conduct has a direct bearing on this
[2:54] Speaker 3: bail application. I'm saying this, Your Sheep, because I placed
[2:59] Speaker 3: on record this study that now the state is in
[3:02] Speaker 3: possession of statements that the cell phones that he was
[3:05] Speaker 3: using around the time of commission of this offence were
[3:08] Speaker 3: wiped out on his instructions. That will become very much
[3:12] Speaker 3: clear during the trial. His past conduct casts light on
[3:17] Speaker 3: what the applicant can do in future. If, being a
[3:20] Speaker 3: police officer, he managed to destroy evidence fully aware that
[3:23] Speaker 3: it was sought, then one should not wonder about his capabilities.
[3:28] Speaker 3: It is further submitted that this act of destroying evidence
[3:31] Speaker 3: amounted to a clear interference with the investigations.
[3:35] Speaker 1: So there we have the prosecutor in the matter, Shadrach
[3:37] Speaker 1: Sabir's bail application finally coming to a conclusion, being postponed
[3:42] Speaker 1: for judgment. So much detail coming out there. Where does
[3:45] Speaker 1: it leave you? What are your thoughts on this case
[3:48] Speaker 1: against Shadrach Sabir? Is it a stitch-up? Is he being
[3:50] Speaker 1: set up? Or do you believe the evidence that has
[3:53] Speaker 1: been read into the record so far about what the
[3:57] Speaker 1: state is alleging against him?

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