# Haberman, Swan on 'Regime Change'

An episode of [Amanpour](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1060761517), 1 Jul 2026, 56 min.

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"Unprecedented" is a word often used to described this second Trump presidency. A new book, "Regime Change," gives the inside scoop of the first 14 months of Trump's second term, and has sold more than 300,000 copies since its release last week. Co-authors Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan are both journalists at The New York Times, and they join Christiane to discuss. Also on today's show: Rina Amiri, Former U.S. Special Envoy for Afghan Women, Girls, and Human Rights; Anne Neuberger, General Partner and Head of Global Affairs, a16z / Former US Deputy National Security Adviser Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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