# Decoder with Nilay Patel

A podcast by The Verge. Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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## Latest episodes

- [Kevin Roose is AGI-pilled. Why aren't you?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/ef5a4e4fa13c) (2026-10-26, 69 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2670051585.mp3
- [Bill Gates says to prepare for 20 years of ‘tumultuous’ AI disruption](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/196c96f081ef) (2026-10-22, 77 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP7276454247.mp3
- [JB Pritzker thinks AI could help us live to 100 — or threaten us like nukes](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/894ed34b6a62) (2026-10-19, 59 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP5027487751.mp3
- [Why Elon Musk wants to sell you cell service](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/525e1945caf9) (2026-10-17, 54 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP6777498710.mp3
- [Benn Jordan thinks the surveillance problem is much bigger than Flock](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/c774c625e845) (2026-10-15, 63 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP6709606542.mp3
- [Rewind: Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman’s ‘unconstrained’ relationship with the truth](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/d50ded9a43f1) (2026-10-12, 61 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP1899118519.mp3
- [Another billionaire thinks he can fix Warner Bros.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/06e79f3adae1) (2026-10-10, 46 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP9038342707.mp3
- [OpenAI has a Muse problem](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/fcfa8ba18617) (2026-10-08, 46 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP6813236420.mp3
- [Adam Schiff on AI regulation, free speech, and impeaching Trump one more time](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/fd615f75109f) (2026-10-05, 59 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP1379453989.mp3
- [The AI warnings are getting louder](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/208568e5e415) (2026-10-03, 37 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP4247808239.mp3
- [How Utah locals fought Kevin O'Leary's AI data center](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/09e478f44e67) (2026-10-01, 45 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP1651525839.mp3
- [The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/2ec7fa355e10) (2026-09-28, 77 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2948196518.mp3
- [Can Cloudflare save the web from AI?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/93b1c9f49f54) (2026-09-26, 79 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP6188580290.mp3
- [I have some questions for Mark Zuckerberg](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/de10ef86b844) (2026-09-24, 24 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP4067007259.mp3
- [Can John Ternus find Apple's next big thing?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/7363a95cf6e7) (2026-09-21, 59 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2055245296.mp3
- [Does AI need an antitrust exemption so it doesn't kill everyone????](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/9c9971376fea) (2026-09-19, 47 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP5647861303.mp3
- [Microsoft AI CEO says AI threats are real, and Anthropic is making it worse](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/5a2560428a5b) (2026-09-17, 53 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP3077444576.mp3
- [Adam Conover explains how YouTube ruined everything](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/f6ec06bfdf86) (2026-09-14, 66 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP4446106934.mp3
- [Why the current tech backlash feels different](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/624705e4dd42) (2026-09-10, 55 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2361650123.mp3
- [How Sonos rebooted itself](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/fa9d5cd15c22) (2026-09-03, 74 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2424781090.mp3
- [New York Governor Kathy Hochul thinks AI should be ‘less evil’](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/c882310cd94d) (2026-08-31, 52 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2475724315.mp3
- [OpenAI's executive exodus has one big winner](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/f31d6f9c0957) (2026-08-27, 41 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2439617861.mp3
- [How GoFundMe became America's backup plan](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/1a512e7600a8) (2026-08-24, 78 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP8004251532.mp3
- [Welcome to the AI crisis in math](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/9ebd97d883f1) (2026-08-20, 41 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP8302427769.mp3
- [It's about ethics in journalism, with Ben Smith](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/27380ad1d97d) (2026-08-17, 72 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP6659291274.mp3
- [Does Google even want to win in AI?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/63dd0fb48b6d) (2026-08-13, 40 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2773717777.mp3
- [Bose CEO Lila Snyder on the fight for high-quality audio](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/7465c2fce9a1) (2026-08-10, 67 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP3937727395.mp3
- [The left and right agree on one thing: no data centers](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/e6b2e946f2b4) (2026-08-06, 38 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP1649694623.mp3
- [Bluesky’s new CEO wants a big tent, not a bubble](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/aa51842b5ff8) (2026-08-03, 76 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2631794244.mp3
- [The end of the human internet](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/fe911d4ce648) (2026-07-30, 44 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP9978291563.mp3
- [Tariffs didn’t bring manufacturing jobs back to the US](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/a4c2e476e1f3) (2026-07-27, 72 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP4137105999.mp3
- [What Apple’s OpenAI lawsuit is really about](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/48baab316aed) (2026-07-23, 45 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP8735488557.mp3
- [Dr. Jill Lepore on why the AI backlash is vital for the future](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/21786428ebaf) (2026-07-20, 60 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2484941224.mp3
- [Proton’s CTO: No company is going to jail for you](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/0cbc885ef92e) (2026-07-16, 85 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP8586650749.mp3
- [Yes, even Nvidia's head of automotive is fighting for compute](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/610b4f009fda) (2026-07-13, 72 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP3536151799.mp3
- [Why did Comcast ever buy NBC?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/0fe758fe9359) (2026-07-09, 63 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP3487742255.mp3
- [Inside the big business of the creator economy, with Ali Berman and Raina Penchansky](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/835f0de76982) (2026-07-06, 69 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2470880246.mp3
- [The CMO is a dying role, says Digitas' Amy Lanzi](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/e6e52b5580e5) (2026-07-02, 57 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP8280412072.mp3
- [He changed outdoor cooking forever — then took over Weber](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/aec7088f4d60) (2026-06-29, 72 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP6859886703.mp3
- [Rewind: CEO Jim Farley on Ford's EV gamble](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/9d0763359cb9) (2026-06-25, 64 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP9896857120.mp3
- [Can Patreon fight fire with social media fire?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/e62953fdec18) (2026-06-22, 74 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP1707405456.mp3
- [Who decides when AI is too dangerous?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/3e46fe8c8f08) (2026-06-18, 41 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP4132873775.mp3
- [Skydio CEO argues more drones will make us safer](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/f23242dba2c1) (2026-06-15, 74 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP9854697834.mp3
- [Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch on AI, the Met Gala & his secret succession plan](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/54fb59eb0f91) (2026-06-11, 55 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP4134593517.mp3?updated=1781107639
- [Microsoft AI chief thinks superintelligence is near, but won't take your job](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/6948eee1eb8b) (2026-06-08, 77 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP7262216179.mp3?updated=1780861665
- [Elon Musk is steamrolling Wall Street to become a trillionaire](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/cc822bd04e59) (2026-06-04, 49 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP1516221184.mp3?updated=1780517005
- [AI is blowing up music. How should the Grammys handle it?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/22fe7382641b) (2026-06-01, 66 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP7221977177.mp3?updated=1780087223
- [Rivian's software chief thinks you don't need CarPlay or buttons](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/d04041454c7e) (2026-05-28, 70 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP7596151508.mp3?updated=1779904436
- [How Sundar Pichai is rethinking Google for the AI era](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/839a508cdac0) (2026-05-26, 52 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP7196104544.mp3?updated=1779740309
- [Musk v Altman: Much ado about nothing](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1011668648/665719f05f2d) (2026-05-21, 35 min): audio https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP4133773225.mp3?updated=1779302047

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